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nagor
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/12/2016 : 16:02:35
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quote: Originally posted by Opti
quote: Originally posted by Mrkva
Nije dokazano da depesija korelira s visokom inteligencijom, ali primjeri iz povijesti uvjeravaju nas da je većina umjetnika i onih koji su ostali zapisani u povijesti patila od neke vrste mentalnog poremećaja pa je lako to pomisliti.
Ali isto tako, a to često zaboravljamo, ljudi s niskom inteligencijom pate od teških depresivnih epizoda zato što stalno ispadaju manjkavi u školskim zadacima, a ne uspijevaju ni dobiti dobre poslove i manje-više osuđeni su na nizu polovicu kapitalističke piramide. K tomu još, s obzirom na to da nisu inteligentni, vrlo su prijemčivi na utjecaje; nisu sposobni kritički razlučiti glamur bonbonovih reklama od stvarnog zivota pa veći dio istoga provode u nezadovoljstvu. Još je gore kad takvi dolaze iz obitelji koje od njih očekuju više nego što oni mogu objektivno postići, kao što je to slučaj s nekolicinom mojih učenika koji imaju granični IQ (prema njihovom dosjeu, a ne prema mojoj procjeni).
Slažem se. Sklonost depresiji nema nikakve veze s inteligencijom. Postoji doduše par filozofa koji su tvrdili obrnuto, dakle isto što i nagor, međutim ti isti filozofi su bili zlostavljani u djetinjstvu pa je teško saznati jesu li introspekcijom došli do pravilnog zaključka ili su samo filozofiranjem htjeli racionalizirati svoju depresiju. 
Ej! Kakvo zlostavljanje? Velečasni je rekao da sam mu najdraži...  |
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Rahazlam
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Croatia
3404 Posts
Member since 13/07/2013 |
Posted - 01/12/2016 : 16:22:20
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Kolko znam depresija je kao i sve psihičke bolesti uvjetovana genetikom(uglavnom)a nikako inteligencijom ili tako nečim. |
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lwood
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Colombia
47431 Posts
Member since 09/12/2005 |
Posted - 01/12/2016 : 23:54:58
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nema to toliko veze. po statistici Gvajana je daleko najgora po stopi samoubojstava a čisto sumnjan da su i najinteligentniji  ili da se ubijaju jerbo nemaju sunca ka npr Finci ili Litvanci. |
depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala |
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Rahazlam
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Croatia
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Rahazlam
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Croatia
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Dukidule
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Chile
4039 Posts
Member since 20/05/2014 |
Posted - 02/12/2016 : 12:12:41
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quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
Kako mi stojimo sa stopom samoubojstava?
Očekuje se da će se s ukidanjem Zagora, godine 2025., pola stanovništva bivše Yuge poubijati. |
Za koga ja navijam samo je moja stvar. A ljubav je jedna, jedina... |
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
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nagor
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Croatia
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lwood
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Colombia
47431 Posts
Member since 09/12/2005 |
Posted - 02/12/2016 : 15:50:42
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quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
Još neki bitni faktori za depresiju uz onaj genetski su vrijeme i način života,od kud ti ti podaci Iwoode?
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depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala |
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Tonto
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8843 Posts
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Posted - 02/12/2016 : 16:03:50
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
Još neki bitni faktori za depresiju uz onaj genetski su vrijeme i način života,od kud ti ti podaci Iwoode?
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The less I have the more I am a happy man |
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Rahazlam
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Croatia
3404 Posts
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Posted - 03/12/2016 : 02:07:33
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quote: Originally posted by Dukidule
quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
Kako mi stojimo sa stopom samoubojstava?
Očekuje se da će se s ukidanjem Zagora, godine 2025., pola stanovništva bivše Yuge poubijati.
Cuj to,ukidanje Zagora 2025.,malo si uranio. |
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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mr murdoc
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Switzerland
14557 Posts
Member since 02/01/2006 |
Posted - 03/12/2016 : 10:58:11
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
quote: Originally posted by Opti
quote: Originally posted by Mrkva
Nije dokazano da depesija korelira s visokom inteligencijom, ali primjeri iz povijesti uvjeravaju nas da je većina umjetnika i onih koji su ostali zapisani u povijesti patila od neke vrste mentalnog poremećaja pa je lako to pomisliti.
Ali isto tako, a to često zaboravljamo, ljudi s niskom inteligencijom pate od teških depresivnih epizoda zato što stalno ispadaju manjkavi u školskim zadacima, a ne uspijevaju ni dobiti dobre poslove i manje-više osuđeni su na nizu polovicu kapitalističke piramide. K tomu još, s obzirom na to da nisu inteligentni, vrlo su prijemčivi na utjecaje; nisu sposobni kritički razlučiti glamur bonbonovih reklama od stvarnog zivota pa veći dio istoga provode u nezadovoljstvu. Još je gore kad takvi dolaze iz obitelji koje od njih očekuju više nego što oni mogu objektivno postići, kao što je to slučaj s nekolicinom mojih učenika koji imaju granični IQ (prema njihovom dosjeu, a ne prema mojoj procjeni).
Slažem se. Sklonost depresiji nema nikakve veze s inteligencijom. Postoji doduše par filozofa koji su tvrdili obrnuto, dakle isto što i nagor, međutim ti isti filozofi su bili zlostavljani u djetinjstvu pa je teško saznati jesu li introspekcijom došli do pravilnog zaključka ili su samo filozofiranjem htjeli racionalizirati svoju depresiju. 
Ej! Kakvo zlostavljanje? Velečasni je rekao da sam mu najdraži... 
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“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde |
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lwood
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Colombia
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lwood
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Colombia
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nagor
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Croatia
12553 Posts
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lwood
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Colombia
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nagor
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Croatia
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mr murdoc
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Switzerland
14557 Posts
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Posted - 03/02/2017 : 22:15:12
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Ociti dokaz evolucije , odnosno direktne demokracije  Ponekad se moramo spustiti kariku nize da bi jednostavno rijesili gabulu |
“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde |
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nagor
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Croatia
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mr murdoc
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Switzerland
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lwood
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Colombia
47431 Posts
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lwood
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Colombia
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nagor
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Croatia
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lwood
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Colombia
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