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Hexen
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 22:34:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Hexen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Prije svega ispričavam se ako je ova tema već bila.

A sada da pitam iskusne forumaše za preporuku. Naime, nakon hrpe pročitanih stripova svi su mi postali nekako isti; junak je najbolji, najjači, najbrži, najlijepši bla bla. Ono, čovjeku to dosadi jer nije realno.
Stoga me zanimaju stripovi u kojima je glavni lik gubitnik (luzer). Netko tko nije najlijepši, netko tko se ne zna boriti, ne zna baratati ni jednim oružjem, žene ga ni ne pogledaju, negativac ga svaki put premlati... ono.. nešto drugačije. Ali opet da nije sprdnja. Nešto ozbiljnije... mračnije.
Nije bitno ako je manga, američki, talijanski, ovakav onakav samo da ima te elemente.

Dakle, znate li koji takav strip i ako se (po mogućnosti) može nabaviti za neke relativno sitne pare?

wolf
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 22:39:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send wolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tko bi to uopće čitao???
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Dwayne_Looney
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 22:42:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dwayne_Looney a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pripremi se na odgovore da je to Ken Parker.

Inače, razumijem što želiš reći i volio bih da ima takvo nešto.
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mogorovic
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 23:01:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mogorovic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo, recimo, Crna Željka, od Marka Dješke, od domaćih stripova... Ili nedavno spominjani strip na ovom forumu: Smogy Boy od Gorana Delića.
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supermark
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 23:06:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit supermark's Homepage  Send supermark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alan Ford?
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bvagner3
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 23:17:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bvagner3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spawn
#!??
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solar
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 23:25:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
(mali offtopic)

Hexen, pa gdje si, nema te na Dragonero topicu?
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Jocko
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Serbia
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 00:13:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Jocko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Blast
- Em mračan strip, em ozbiljan. Em glavni junak gubitnik u svakom smislu.

Autoput / Autocesta sunca
- U suštini dosta realan, glavni likovi su prošli sito i rešeto.

Velika moć malog Šninkela
- Jeste fantasy, ali glavni ''junak'' je zaista sve samo ne junak. Nit' je najlepši, nit' ga ženska hoće, ne zna da se bori, malodušan je...

Edited by - Jocko on 26/01/2018 00:14:02
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velka031
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 07:13:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Blast
Sam samcat... Ne znam da li ga se može nazvati klasičnim gubitnikom, ali je briljantan strip.
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Beva
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 07:32:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Beva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Inkal
Jubilarni Polo 10!http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51213
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Peyo
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 07:54:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Peyo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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www2
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 08:18:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send www2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shaolin cowboy.....OK zna se pomalo kefati
The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli.
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ivanl
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 08:50:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pa posto zelis, stripove gdje glavni junak nije sjajna i pravedna osoba, recimo; Parker Richarda Starka,(Darkwood), Torpedo (Safir, M press, Strip agent, Fibra). Teski su antijunaci... i od Fibre imas 75% neuobicajenih prica, probaj sa sjajnom Svagdanjom borbom. Probaj Chabutea, sjajnog autora,(Fibra,Besna kobila). Will Eiserov Ugovor s bogom/Snaga zivota/Susjedstvo (Vedis). Album Odmetnuti od Libellusa, kao i njihove albume, Noc bez kraja/Iguana, Chicanos, Opake price i Boy vampire. Fontove Crne price,(Stripforum), Franquenove Crne misli,(Stripagent) ili Bernetove Crnjake,(Stripagent)...ili recimo Adolf, Osame Tezuke (Fibra), onako iz prve... Nedavno sam ponovio Propovjednika opak serijal (Fibra/Beli put/Darkwood) ili pak Lokot i kljuc (Darkwood).ovi ti pobrojeni stripovi, nikako nemaju Bonelli stih za pravdu, ili nedaj boze onaj americki superherojski "dir". Mada ima Bonellija i van Texa, Zagora i njihovog osjecaja za pravednost,(serijal Sirocad, Darkwood)... Ovo mi je palo na pamet odmah, ima ih jos cijelo brdo.od gore pobrojanih stripova koje su kolege navele obavezno Blast, ali zbilja i Alan Ford, Ken Parker...
Los cukar na fritulama!
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Poli
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:01:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

@ivanl

Originally posted by Hexen

... netko tko se ne zna boriti, ne zna baratati ni jednim oružjem, žene ga ni ne pogledaju, negativac ga svaki put premlati...


Anything is possible dec d uej
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ivanl
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:07:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Covjek je trazio drukcije stripove, a ovi to zasigurno jesu...
Los cukar na fritulama!
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King Warrior
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:11:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Hexen

Naime, nakon hrpe pročitanih stripova svi su mi postali nekako isti; junak je najbolji, najjači, najbrži, najlijepši bla bla. Ono, čovjeku to dosadi jer nije realno.


To je nekad bilo, danas (i u zadnjih dvadesetak i kusur godina) je vecina nastalih junaka tzv. antijunaci, bas kako si ih opisao.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:14:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney

Pripremi se na odgovore da je to Ken Parker.


Ken je totalni cistunac, svetac, superioran u dosta stvari kao na primjer u baratanju puskom ili u boksu. Jedan je od posljednjih koji spada u trazenu grupaciju.
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mamlaz
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:22:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mamlaz's Homepage  Send mamlaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mister No
Mrzim mrznju!
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Dwayne_Looney
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:30:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dwayne_Looney a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by King Warrior

Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney

Pripremi se na odgovore da je to Ken Parker.


Ken je totalni cistunac, svetac, superioran u dosta stvari kao na primjer u baratanju puskom ili u boksu. Jedan je od posljednjih koji spada u trazenu grupaciju.


E pa da, zato sam rekao "pripremi se" jer nakon čitanja dosta topica/postova o njemu sam stekao dojam da se kod grupe ljudi stvorila ta, lako moguće, zabluda. Evo recimo prekaljeni ivanl ga navodi.
Inače, osobno ga nisam čitao, tek kupio Darkwoodov prvi broj i svoje mišljenje mogu reći tek kad pročitam nekih pola brojeva. Dao sam prognozu kakvi će odgovori biti a ne preporuku.
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Poli
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:33:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Originally posted by mamlaz

Mister No

Ali on zna baratati oruzjem, a i zene ga pogledaju. :D

U principu, tesko ce se naci neki strip serijal koji bi sljedio sve one gornje kategorije koje je hexen napisao. Neki jednopuc, to vec. Ali opet tesko da nije "sprdnja... nesto ozbiljnije... mracnije", kako napise hexen. Jer komicnih bi se vjerojatno naslo nekoliko.

No, jasno je da bi takav strip bio "prilicno ogranicen", da se sljedi sve navedene hexenove principe. Ali posto je ta bara lose posjecena, evo prilike za mastovite scenariste.



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Dwayne_Looney
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:34:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dwayne_Looney a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Inače, što je Blast? Ime glavnog lika? Iako sam već prilično zagazio u Fibrin svijet taj strip me odbija zbog imena, zvuči mi kao nekakav crv ili ono "čudovište iz močvare"
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vronski 3
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:34:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Reply with Quote
Korto...
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cerichus
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:34:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send cerichus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zagor predstavlja.Čiko je upravo takav junak kojeg tražiš.
Elvis has just left the building!
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Poli
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:37:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney

Inače, što je Blast? Ime glavnog lika? Iako sam već prilično zagazio u Fibrin svijet taj strip me odbija zbog imena, zvuči mi kao nekakav crv ili ono "čudovište iz močvare"

Polza Mancini mu je ime.



Originally posted by cerichus

Zagor predstavlja.Čiko je upravo takav junak kojeg tražiš.

Samo sto Ciko nije... "Ali opet da nije sprdnja. Nešto ozbiljnije... mračnije."
Anything is possible dec d uej
Be the Change You Want to See
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risbozg
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:40:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send risbozg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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King Warrior
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:45:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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