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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 18:39:38
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Šta je pobogu sa formatom stripa kod ovog izdanja??
Odnos strana je 1,38 : 1
Kod Strip-agenta je 1,5 : 1
A gde si ti to proveravao odnos strana? |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 19:55:01
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Kod Vijesnika (trobroj) je 1,49:1.
Nisam merio istu epizodu, ali to je otprilike to - originalan format je oko 1,5 : 1.
Kod CPG je smanjen, neproporcionalno, po visini - sabijen. Što je nedopustivo.
To je imao običaj da radi politikin zabavnik 90-ih godina, sa francuskim stripovima, da ih prilagođava svom formatu, tako što ih (kompjuterski) izdužuje. |
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alexts
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:01:21
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Proveri opet, loša ti je razmera.
evo Jasko, samo za tebe
Žalosna priča o...
CPG 15,9 cm : 11,5 cm odnosno 1,38 : 1 SA 15 cm : 10 cm odnosno 1,5 : 1 |
Edited by - alexts on 16/02/2018 20:05:42 |
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alexts
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:04:01
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Šta je pobogu sa formatom stripa kod ovog izdanja??
Još jednom - format stripa, ne spoljnih dimenzija izdanja sa marginama. |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:06:16
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Još jednom - format stripa, ne spoljnih dimenzija izdanja sa marginama.
A kog briga za format stripa, ako su table u istoj razmeri? |
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alexts
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:17:21
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Table?
SA - 10:7,1 CPG - 11,6:8,1
Dakle, odnos je 1.4 +-0.05
Ne, ne.
Prvo, tako se ne meri - ti meriš samo jedan kadar. Ali, ako hoćeš može i tako. Imam izdanja ispred sebe i lenjir.
Tačna mera je (za kadar):
SA 10 : 7,45 CPG 11,5-11,6 : 7,8-7,9
sad je odnos šire strane prema kraćoj 1,34:1 (SA) odnosno 1,47:1 (CPG)
što opet znači da je CPG raširen/sabijen po visini |
Edited by - alexts on 16/02/2018 20:21:29 |
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alexts
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:20:24
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Inače, širina table AF je širina kadra visina table AF je od donje ivice donjeg kadra do gornje ivice gornjeg
Bilo kako bilo, format TABLE je spljošten, vidi se iz gornjeg primera, vidi se i poređenjem samih stripova, bez merenja. |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:24:05
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Ne, ne.
Prvo, tako se ne meri - ti meriš samo jedan kadar. Ali, ako hoćeš može i tako. Imam izdanja ispred sebe i lenjir.
Tačna mera je (za kadar):
SA 10 : 7,45 CPG 11,5-11,6 : 7,8-7,9
sad je odnos šire strane prema kraćoj 1,34:1 (SA) odnosno 1,47:1 (CPG)
što opet znači da je CPG raširen/sabijen
OK, ti si uzeo najnoviji broj i identični SA i tako izračunao ovu omeru? |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:25:50
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Inače, širina table AF je širina kadra visina table AF je od donje ivice donjeg kadra do gornje ivice gornjeg
Bilo kako bilo, format TABLE je spljošten, vidi se iz gornjeg primera, vidi se i poređenjem samih stripova, bez merenja.
Jesi li ti svestan da su ovo formatirani uzorci, obrađeni, pregledni?
Uzmi prvi broj, pa mi reci koji je odnos, jer ovaj koji pominješ nije. Razumem da ti je u cilju sada da fingiraš, ali to nema veze s činjeničnim stanjem. |
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alexts
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:27:20
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
quote: Originally posted by alexts
Ne, ne.
Prvo, tako se ne meri - ti meriš samo jedan kadar. Ali, ako hoćeš može i tako. Imam izdanja ispred sebe i lenjir.
Tačna mera je (za kadar):
SA 10 : 7,45 CPG 11,5-11,6 : 7,8-7,9
sad je odnos šire strane prema kraćoj 1,34:1 (SA) odnosno 1,47:1 (CPG)
što opet znači da je CPG raširen/sabijen
OK, ti si uzeo najnoviji broj i identični SA i tako izračunao ovu omeru?
Da, a proverio sam još par brojeva iz više edicija, uključujući pretposlednji kolorni CPG. Pretpostavljam da su svi rađeni tako. |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:31:34
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Da, a proverio sam još par brojeva iz više edicija, uključujući pretposlednji kolorni CPG. Pretpostavljam da su svi rađeni tako.
Pogrešio si u promeri. |
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alexts
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:40:33
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Pogrešio si u promeri.
Neko je zaista pogrešio.
Ja nemam običaj da iznosim neistine, ali ipak apelujem da niko ne veruje meni, jer može sam da proveri, ako mu je bitno.
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:50:22
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Okej, izgleda da se razlikuje od table do table. Neka bude da je i razlika od 0,1 do 0,15. Nije tako važno niti toliko primetno kao što si ti predstavio. |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:53:55
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Slike govore više od reči
Mogu da uzmem dve strane, obradim ih da budu identične, okačim ih ovde i napišem, "Slike govore više od reči", a da to pod milim bogom nema nikakve veze s onim što je stvarnost.
Ali okej, ti i dalje teraj, ja ti neću više praviti društvo. |
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alexts
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 20:57:48
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
quote: Originally posted by alexts
Slike govore više od reči
Mogu da uzmem dve strane, obradim ih da budu identične, okačim ih ovde i napišem, "Slike govore više od reči", a da to pod milim bogom nema nikakve veze s onim što je stvarnost.
Ali okej, ti i dalje teraj, ja ti neću više praviti društvo.
Ti možeš, ali ja ne mogu, jer me zanima istina.
Gore su table kakve si ih ti postavio i kakve su u oba izdanja, u nepromenjenim proporcijama, izjednačene po visini, da bi se videlo koliko se razlikuju u širini, odnosno koliko se odstupilo od originalnog crteža. |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 22:14:03
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quote: Originally posted by DOMI
Ništa nije super. Ne pretvaraj se!
Ovo bi super moglo biti samo u mentalnoj ustanovi. Mislim onoj za ljecenje...ovakvih gresaka... |
Los cukar na fritulama! |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 22:22:39
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Nije loše ono što je Dušman uveo zboh željka, kad god ovaj pomene biblioteku Marti, VČ je odloži za mesec dana.
Mogao bih i ja nešto slično da predložim. Recimo, da otkupimo AF još narednih 10 godina za ex Yu, da krenemo od orig. 26 broja kao 42. i da izbacujemo samo parne. |
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Posted - 16/02/2018 : 22:39:10
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Da skratimo to natezanje. Strip je u CPG-ovu izdanju spljošten i točka. Kako znam? Fino, kod kolegice u trafici uzeo strip, rasparao najlon, pogledao, odmah (prije ove rasprave) uočio, prolistao zgužvane stranice, vratio u najlon, i ostavio na policu. Odmah, prvi dan kad je došao na kioske. I danas je na istom mjestu, a ostati će tako i do povratka u remitendu. Zajedno sa drugim primjerkom. |
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