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PijaniPatak
stripovi.com suradnik
Germany
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Vlaadisha
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USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
 Posted - 12/12/2019 : 16:29:30
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Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Iz Srbije: serijal Vekovnici
startovali 2007, ne? mozda neki konkretni album iz ove decenije? |
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Vlaadisha
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USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
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Vlaadisha
Advanced Member
USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
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pcoro
Senior Member
Croatia
2283 Posts
Member since 17/01/2006 |
Posted - 16/12/2019 : 09:51:34
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Gledam malo ove top liste i nisam baš našao stripova koji bi me ludo zinteresirali. Ok, neke stvari sam i pročitao pa znam kakve su, ali većina mi se čini sasvim prosječna, u najboljem slučaju nekakav ugodan meinstream.
Ok, i ja sam ostario i tako mi je sad sa svime, i kad gledam najbolje knjige, filmove ili muziku desetljeća niš me previše ne oduševljava. Ipak bi rekao da bi se od naslova objavljenih tu kod nas dala složiti i bolja top lista.. |
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Vlaadisha
Advanced Member
USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
Posted - 17/12/2019 : 18:13:45
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generalno liste vise govore o onima koji ih sastavljaju nego o samim stripovima. recimo, ako si pratio the beat, znas otprilike sta mozes da ocekujes od heidi & co... CBR trenutno odbrojava top 100 i prilicno je predvidljivo: https://www.cbr.com/tag/top-100-comics-of-the-2010s/
postavljam uglavnom amerocentricne liste zbog jezika. slazem se, ova nasa anketa ce svakako biti vise eklekticna, sto zbog njihovog tradicionalnog izolacionizma, sto zbog kulturnog nasledja naseg regiona.
bilo bi super kad bismo videli i neki evropski ili japanski izbor. |
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pcoro
Senior Member
Croatia
2283 Posts
Member since 17/01/2006 |
Posted - 18/12/2019 : 11:01:57
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Ova zadnja lista mi se baš sviđa. Ok, amerocentrična je, ali oni to čitaju i to im je napeto. Jasno je da bi na domaćoj listi bilo Bonellija za koje ostatak svijeta (ok, ameri, francuzi i Japanci) ni ne znaju da postoje ali to je tako. Ni mene ne zanima koji je najbolji Finski strip desetljeća kad ga neću moć čitat.
Fora je jer lista ima 100 brojeva, ove što imaju manje sve imaju iste dosadne naslove.. i dosta je raznolika, ima nezavisnih stripova i superheroja i bogate opise i više oglednih stranica. Tako bi trebala izgledati prava lista! Pratit ću je sa zanimanjem  |
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Vlaadisha
Advanced Member
USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
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izivko
Advanced Member
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Germany
12525 Posts
Member since 25/07/2003 |
Posted - 18/12/2019 : 21:01:01
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S ova prva dva popisa sam čitao većinu, nisam nekih 5-6, a za neke sam malo iznenagjen i uvregjen da su tu gdje jesu.
Istaknuo bih i preporučio ovaj strip od Barbare Yelin. |
Have mercy |
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pcoro
Senior Member
Croatia
2283 Posts
Member since 17/01/2006 |
Posted - 18/12/2019 : 22:26:16
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| Vidim da je na par lista Tardi sa svojim zarobljenikom iz Stalaga. Malo me to čudi.. nisam se potrudio nabaviti ga kad ga je izdao Darkwood jer mi se ne sviđa stil kojim radi te stripove iz prvog i drugog svjetskog rata gdje prevladavaju didaskalije i lijepe slike. Nije mi tečan. Pa onda uvijek sumnjam da je dobio bodove na tešku temu, a ne na samu kvalitetu stripa. |
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Vlaadisha
Advanced Member
USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
Posted - 28/12/2019 : 05:38:32
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Originally posted by verab
Here
pomalo sam razocaran ovim rimejkom
original je genijalan, ali kao da autor nije znao sta bi s tim, pa smo 25 godina kasnije dobili isto to samo lepse zapakovano. citam blurb na njegovom sajtu (na kom se mogu videti i table iz nove verzije) i ovo mi je bljak: sad vise nismo strip, sad smo knjiga, i to u boji! stil je sve, supstanca nista.
https://www.richard-mcguire.com/new-page-4 |
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Poli
Advanced Member
Slovenia
38104 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
Posted - 28/12/2019 : 15:12:14
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Originally posted by pcoro
Vidim da je na par lista Tardi sa svojim zarobljenikom iz Stalaga. Malo me to čudi.. nisam se potrudio nabaviti ga kad ga je izdao Darkwood jer mi se ne sviđa stil kojim radi te stripove iz prvog i drugog svjetskog rata gdje prevladavaju didaskalije i lijepe slike. Nije mi tečan. Pa onda uvijek sumnjam da je dobio bodove na tešku temu, a ne na samu kvalitetu stripa.
Greska u koracima. Jeste da mu neki (WWI/WWII) ne valjaju previse, ali recimo "Bio je to rat u rovovima" je odlican (naslov sam napisao na pamet, ionako imam nase slovensko izdanje). |
Anything is possible dec d uej
Be the Change You Want to See
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pcoro
Senior Member
Croatia
2283 Posts
Member since 17/01/2006 |
Posted - 28/12/2019 : 16:51:51
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| Rat u rovovima cijenim radi sjajnog crteža, ali ne uživam u njemu jer me priče nisu posebno taknule. Čudi me da nije izdan u nas, ipak je prilično važan strip... |
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NESVRSTANI
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Croatia
10233 Posts
Member since 08/02/2006 |
Posted - 28/12/2019 : 16:56:14
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Originally posted by pcoro
Vidim da je na par lista Tardi sa svojim zarobljenikom iz Stalaga. Malo me to čudi.. nisam se potrudio nabaviti ga kad ga je izdao Darkwood jer mi se ne sviđa stil kojim radi te stripove iz prvog i drugog svjetskog rata gdje prevladavaju didaskalije i lijepe slike. Nije mi tečan. Pa onda uvijek sumnjam da je dobio bodove na tešku temu, a ne na samu kvalitetu stripa.
Meni je Tardi nakon odličnog Malog bluesa sa Zapadne obale teško razočarenje. Razlozi isti ka i kod tebe. Dosadan način pripovijedanja i manjak tečnosti. |
Doli sve stranke!!!
Živili naši dušmani!!! |
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Vlaadisha
Advanced Member
USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
Posted - 05/06/2020 : 02:32:04
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2020 Eisner nominacije
Best Short Story
“Hot Comb,” by Ebony Flowers, in Hot Comb (Drawn & Quarterly)
“How to Draw a Horse,” by Emma Hunsinger, The New Yorker, https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/how-to-draw-a-horse
“The Menopause,” by Mira Jacob, The Believer, https://believermag.com/the-menopause/
“Who Gets Called an ‘Unfit’ Mother?” by Miriam Libicki, The Nib, https://thenib.com/who-gets-called-an-unfit-mother/
“You’re Not Going to Believe What I’m About to Tell You,” by Matthew Inman, The Oatmeal, https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
Best Single Issue/One-Shot
Coin-Op No. 8: Infatuation, by Peter and Maria Hoey (Coin-Op Books)
The Freak, by Matt Lesniewski (AdHouse)
Minotäar, by Lissa Treiman (Shortbox)
Our Favorite Thing Is My Favorite Thing Is Monsters, by Emil Ferris (Fantagraphics)
Sobek, by James Stokoe (Shortbox)
Best Continuing Series
Bitter Root, by David Walker, Chuck Brown, and Sanford Greene (Image)
Criminal, by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (Image)
Crowded, by Christopher Sebela, Ro Stein, and Ted Brandt (Image)
Daredevil, by Chip Zdarsky and Marco Checchetto (Marvel)
The Dreaming, by Simon Spurrier, Bilquis Evely et al. (DC)
Immortal Hulk, by Al Ewing, Joe Bennett, and Ruy José et al. (Marvel)
Best Limited Series
Ascender, by Jeff Lemire and Dustin Nguyen (Image)
Ghost Tree, by Bobby Curnow and Simon Gane (IDW)
Little Bird by Darcy Van Poelgeest and Ian Bertram (Image)
Naomi by Brian Michael Bendis, David Walker, and Jamal Campbell (DC)
Sentient, by Jeff Lemire and Gabriel Walta (TKO)
Best New Series
Doctor Doom, by Christopher Cantwell and Salvador Larocca (Marvel)
Invisible Kingdom, by G. Willow Wilson and Christian Ward (Berger Books/Dark Horse)
Once & Future, by Kieron Gillen and Dan Mora (BOOM! Studios)
Something Is Killing the Children, by James Tynion IV and Werther Dell’Edera (BOOM! Studios)
Undiscovered Country, by Scott Snyder, Charles Soule, Giuseppe Camuncoli, and Daniele Orlandini (Image)
Best Publication for Early Readers
Comics: Easy as ABC, by Ivan Brunetti (TOON)
Kitten Construction Company: A Bridge Too Fur, by John Patrick Green (First Second/Macmillan)
The Pigeon HAS to Go to School! by Mo Willems (Hyperion Books)
A Trip to the Top of the Volcano with Mouse, by Frank Viva (TOON)
¡Vamos! Let’s Go to the Market, by Raúl the Third (Versify/Houghton Mifflin Harcourt)
Who Wet My Pants? by Bob Shea and Zachariah Ohora (Little, Brown)
Best Publication for Kids
Akissi: More Tales of Mischief, by Marguerite Abouet and Mathieu Sapin (Flying Eye/Nobrow)
Dog Man: For Whom the Ball Rolls, by Dav Pilkey (Scholastic Graphix)
Guts, by Raina Telgemeier (Scholastic Graphix)
New Kid, by Jerry Craft (Quill Tree/HarperCollins)
This Was Our Pact, by Ryan Andrews (First Second/Macmillan)
The Wolf in Underpants, by Wilfrid Lupano, Mayana Itoïz, and Paul Cauuet (Graphic Universe/Lerner Publishing Group)
Best Publication for Teens
Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass, by Mariko Tamaki and Steve Pugh (DC)
Hot Comb, by Ebony Flowers (Drawn & Quarterly)
Kiss Number 8, by Colleen AF Venable and Ellen T. Crenshaw (First Second/Macmillan)
Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up with Me, by Mariko Tamaki and Rosemary Valero-O’Connell (First Second/Macmillan)
Penny Nichols, by MK Reed, Greg Means, and Matt Wiegle (Top Shelf)
Best Humor Publication
Anatomy of Authors, by Dave Kellett (SheldonComics.com)
Death Wins a Goldfish, by Brian Rea (Chronicle Books)
Minotäar, by Lissa Treiman (Shortbox)
Sobek, by James Stokoe (Shortbox)
The Way of the Househusband, vol. 1, by Kousuke Oono, translation by Sheldon Drzka (VIZ Media)
Wondermark: Friends You Can Ride On, by David Malki (Wondermark)
Best Anthology
ABC of Typography, by David Rault (SelfMade Hero)
Baltic Comics Anthology š! #34-37, edited by David Schilter, Sanita Muižniece et al. (kuš!)
Drawing Power: Women’s Stories of Sexual Violence, Harassment, and Survival, edited by Diane Noomin (Abrams)
Kramer’s Ergot #10, edited by Sammy Harkham (Fantagraphics)
The Nib #2–4, edited by Matt Bors (Nib)
Best Reality-Based Work
Good Talk: A Memoir in Conversations, by Mira Jacob (One World/Random House)
Grass, by Keum Suk Gendry-Kim, translation by Janet Hong (Drawn & Quarterly)
Kid Gloves: Nine Months of Careful Chaos, by Lucy Knisley (First Second/Macmillan)
Moonbound: Apollo 11 and the Dream of Spaceflight, by Jonathan Fetter-Vorm (Hill & Wang)
My Solo Exchange Diary, vol. 2 (sequel to My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness), by Nagata Kabi, translation by Jocelyne Allen (Seven Seas)
They Called Us Enemy, by George Takei, Justin Eisinger, Steven Scott, and Harmony Becker (Top Shelf)
Best Graphic Album—New
Are You Listening? by Tillie Walden (First Second/Macmillan)
Bezimena, by Nina Bunjevac (Fantagraphics)
BTTM FDRS, by Ezra Claytan Daniels and Ben Passmore (Fantagraphics)
Life on the Moon, by Robert Grossman (Yoe Books/IDW)
New World, by David Jesus Vignolli (Archaia/BOOM!)
Reincarnation Stories, by Kim Deitch (Fantagraphics) |
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vukozec
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4968 Posts
Member since 17/08/2013 |
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Peyo
Advanced Member
Croatia
10357 Posts
Member since 28/10/2005 |
Posted - 05/06/2020 : 10:50:38
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Originally posted by vukozec
Nominacija za Ninu Bunjevac (umjesto prešutne PC cenzure). Dobije li možda se i kod nas netko usudi to objaviti.
Mislim da je manji problem u tome da se objavi.
Pitanje je da li se takvi stripovi prodaju, pa shodno tome tko je od izdavača spreman na rizik.
To što će se 5 do 10 forumaša javiti da ih zanima je premalo.
Osobno takve stripove posudim u knjižnici, ali ih ne kolekcioniram. |
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vukozec
Advanced Member
4968 Posts
Member since 17/08/2013 |
Posted - 05/06/2020 : 10:54:52
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| bude li na stripu pisalo "dobitnik ugledne nagrade Eisner za najbolju grafičku novelu 2020" uz autoricu lokalnog imena i prezimena, zaintrigirat će to i onu publiku koja za nju nije uopće čula (aka nestripovsku) (plus što će se o stripu raspisati Jergović i ostali opinion makeri na kulturnoj sceni) |
Edited by - vukozec on 05/06/2020 10:56:49 |
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Shaner
Advanced Member
Croatia
7276 Posts
Member since 24/09/2012 |
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Peyo
Advanced Member
Croatia
10357 Posts
Member since 28/10/2005 |
Posted - 05/06/2020 : 11:28:00
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Originally posted by Shaner
S obzirom da su njeni prethodni stripovi objavljeni kod nas, ne vidim zašto ne bi bio i ovaj.
I to što kažeš.
Izdavač 2x2 izgleda da je zadovoljan s odazivom publike.
Možda ima više publike za ovakve stripove nego sam pretpostavio. |
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KOMIKO
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Serbia
1950 Posts
Member since 05/02/2012 |
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delboj
stripovi.com suradnik
Bosnia and Herzegovina
17040 Posts
Member since 01/03/2004 |
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Vlaadisha
Advanced Member
USA
3513 Posts
Member since 21/07/2004 |
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vukozec
Advanced Member
4968 Posts
Member since 17/08/2013 |
Posted - 05/06/2020 : 15:56:41
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Originally posted by Vlaadisha
Kakva PC cenzura?
Pa upravo ona koju si ti u matičnom topicu spomenuo :)
quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha
U međuvremenu se desio metoo i sad, ko što rekoh u prvom postu, izgleda niko neće ni štapom to da takne.
http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=50795
Pod "prešutnom PC cenzurom" sam mislio na "nećemo talasat da se ne bi kogod uvrijedio". |
Edited by - vukozec on 05/06/2020 15:58:58 |
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Poli
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Slovenia
38104 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
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Najbolji stripovi 2010–2019
