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jaki
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jaki
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Even more than Viola Giramondo , the first foray out of the Disney comic book by the couple formed by Teresa Radice and Stefano Turconi , is the forbidden port to play an important role in the career of the two authors: it is their first work to contain elements not suitable for children, the one that demonstrates their ability to range between genres and atmospheres, the first published by BAO Publishing - which will become the "home" of all their subsequent projects - and has won several industry awards, allowing spouses to to be known in the Italian comics scene and to be able to develop other projects, always different from each other, thanks to the trust of the Milanese publishing house.
It should perhaps not be too surprising, then, that Radice and Turconi return to tell of places and characters known precisely in The Forbidden Port : the affection and attachment that the two feel for the microcosm of Playmouth that they have created is the key to decipher The girls of the Pillar , volume that inaugurates a series whose nerve center is the Pillar to Post, the pleasure house that was one of the key places in the original history.
GIRLS WITH A WORLD INSIDE
Radice and Turconi return to Pillar_Reviews The first volume contains two stories, June and Lizzie , choral stories in which, however, it is the girl of the title who is at the center of the single story.
The plots are simple and delicate, but in their lack of superstructures the screenwriter manages to give the characters three-dimensionality , making them alive and extraordinarily human, as per her habit. Unlike other examples, however, among which the forbidden Port itself , this effect does not obtain it through long dialogues or courtly quotations - stylistic code of Teresa Radice - but with a more fluid narration, always refined but in this case more direct, consistent with the context and the extraction of the characters at the center of the narrative.
So in June we have the shy Asian who goes out of her way to defend the new "bouncer" of Pillar, a good giant without an arm from afar who is however frowned on by someone, while in Lizzie we follow the love story between the curly-haired blonde and an introverted scholar of a good family. In both stories stands out the strong-willed, generous and positive character of the girls, which manifests itself in the choices they make and in how they deal with their fears and problems , which goes to build very good literary characters, strong and multifaceted figures of women to which it is easy become attached and that are never stereotyped or forced.
The strength lies therefore not so much in what happens, but in how it is told and in the enveloping characterization that is given to the two protagonists, to the companions of "activities" and to the other characters involved.
After all, the reality of the Pillar to Post was not investigated much in the original graphic novel, in which the focus was mainly on the owner of the place, and this certainly offers ample margins to reveal various details of the girls who populate it. .
But not only that: the place is configured as a privileged observation point on the country and on the characters that populate it or pass through it.
Radice's narrative does not remain enclosed within those walls but is contaminated , arriving at the port, the seamstress's shop and elegant country villas. The protagonists come into contact with so much different humanity and the screenwriter's ability to build significant and interesting characters enhances this choice, enriching the setting and expanding it.
VERTICAL STRUCTURE VS. HORIZONTAL
Radice and Turconi return to Pillar_Reviews In constructing this narrative system, the authors choose a solution perhaps risky, but certainly intriguing. The two stories are not limited to being self-concluding: in addition to the vertical structure of the single adventure, there are some subplots that link the two episodes and that are even left open, referring to the next volume to see the developments.
These are not just references to what happened between the pages of The Forbidden Port , present with hints that the passionate reader can appreciate - also for the delicacy with which they are inserted - but that do not weigh down the reading to those who do not catch them, but rather true parallel stories that manifest themselves in the background .
For example, the new commander of the Last Chance frigate - that Jasser Allali present as a secondary character in the graphic novel - is assigned by the Navy a secret mission to Algiers that for some reason not yet revealed, disturbs him a lot, which seems to annoy someone and the which we will follow developments only in the future.
At the same time, a mysterious brunette who has just arrived in Playmouth tries to gather money to reach her distant brother, and crosses her path with that of the Pillar, probably entering the group but leaving the precise feeling that she is hiding something in her past, even on the way. of the still not clear relations with the blood relative and of the reasons that push her with such urgency to return to him.
They are elements capable of capturing the attention and of composing a much more complex and ambitious tapestry than one might initially think , but which collide with an output cadence so dilated as to risk making the use of horizontal textures cumbersome to readers less be careful, since there is talk of a hiatus of two years between each volume.
THE COLORS OF PLAYMOUTH
Radice and Turconi return to Pillar_Reviews
Stefano Turconi's pencils readjust easily in the British town of the early nineteenth century, theater of action: the trait of the artist is reconfirmed essential and quick, with soft and fast lines that in few signs manage to graphically characterize a face, a look or a posture.
The cage of the tables is mostly classic, although with a scan of the cartoons that is certainly not rigid, since they almost never have the same size, thus dictating an always varied and lively rhythm for scanning the story.Rows with three squares are not uncommon instead of the canonical two, as well as tables where doubles abound with a lower than average height, thus obtaining an extra row of vignettes. There are also some quadruples and splash pages of great effect, with individual vignettes that occasionally nestle above them.
Furthermore, even more than in The Forbidden Port , Turconi is dedicated to portraying female forms and nudity, without ever being vulgar or lingering excessively on these aspects but giving a charge of intense sensuality to some scenes, making the volume at times disturbing.
The girls all look different from each other in terms of features, build and aesthetic characteristics, facilitating the reader to understand the dialogues between the characters and giving a very good side to the painstaking job of describing the screenwriter.
The care for clothes is also evident , in particular with regard to the supporting actors who often play particular roles and therefore wear clothing or uniforms of a certain rank, always represented with great attention to detail.
Radice and Turconi return to Pillar_Reviews As far as the backgrounds are concerned, the designer shows once again that he has a good eye in the composition of the scenes, filling the environments with objects and elements that enrich the context by making the reader enter a coherent world full of reference points. This observation applies both to the interiors and the exteriors, in which Turconi further indulges himself by portraying different naturalistic elements - glimpses, buildings, animals - that make each environment concrete and fabulous at the same time.
The big visual difference between The Forbidden Port and The Pillar Girls is certainly the use of color. While the graphic novel was in black and white, a choice that was consistent with both the type of plot and the aesthetics of an old adventure book that you wanted to recreate, in this case the boards enjoy a truly effective colorful palette.
With a caressing appearance, Turconi's coloring follows a bit what was done with Tosca dei Boschi and with the two volumes of the Orlando Curioso series : the pastel tones dominate, offering a particularly suitable soft color scheme and always communicate precisely where we are and what is the atmosphere of that scene. At Pillar to Post, warm tones like orange and light brown dominate, the streets at night are halfway between dark blue and faded purple while the port during the day appears limpid, clear and bright, with the blue sky making it from master.
Color contributes significantly to the overall result, especially for its always careful and fitting use, in the service of history.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Radice and Turconi return to Pillar_Reviews
The girls of Pillar is not a sequel, therefore: The forbidden port is a graphic novel that finds perfect closure in itself, considering in particular the events that concerned the two protagonists, Abel and Rebecca.
The two cartoonists therefore opt for a "side shift", shifting the focus of the narrative on the prostitutes we have already known and using them as a starting point to go and peek in other corners of Playmouth , deepening places, situations and characters that had not been treated or gutted in the 2015 comic novel.
The project, as mentioned at the beginning, has to do with the passion of Teresa Radice and Stefano Turconi towards their stories, and the affection towards the context of The forbidden port is perceived on each page , as if the authors had physically returned to a place where they had good moments, with the curiosity to see what changed in the life of the people they had known then and with a touch of nostalgia (as they also declared in the interview they gave us at last Lucca Comics ).
They love these characters and in particular the girls to whom they dedicate the series: a sensation that clearly affects the reader and contributes to the success of the volume. |
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Poli
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Posted - 14/01/2020 : 20:01:34
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Originally posted by pcoro
Pa ništa, samo da se da pročitat. Ali stari je nešto kao inspektor Bloch iz Dylana, ništa nastalo poslije 1970te ga ne može oduševiti ili natjerati na komentar, ni knjiga ni film. Ako ga nešto zainteresira pogleda ili pročita, ako ne neće, i to je to.
Pa takvi smo i mi sami sa godinama. 
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pcoro
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Posted - 15/01/2020 : 08:10:32
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| Lijepo je što su napravili novu knjigu, ali šteta da je nastavak ove priče koja se čini završena, i to još kratki nastavak i to još kratki nastavak sa dvije još kraće priče. Nadao sam se da će slijediti nešto novo, dugo, bolje, najbolje! |
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Shaner
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zarmix
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 08:19:54
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| Apsolutno remek djelo. Kakav crtež! Olovka, naizgled skicozna, ali daleko je to od skice. Ne treba joj ni tuš ni boja. To je umjetnost, sve frca od pokreta, dinamike, pomorska bitka kakvu davno nisam vidio. Kad otvoriš knjigu, koja je sama po sebi još jedna ljepotica u izdanju Fibre, sa stranica samo što ne počnu iskakati živi likovi. K tome, dijalozi tako prirodni, protočni, pitki, teku tako glatko, valjda je i prijevod sjajan. Kakav odmak od nekoliko konfekcijskih izdanja što sam pročitao u zadnje vrijeme. Pravo osvježenje, po mom skromnom sudu, knjiga godine. Trenutno sam tek na 24-toj stranici, a ima ih 300. Ah, koji gušt me čeka, dugo se već nisam tako radovao čitanju. |
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Peyo
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 13:45:15
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Priča me odmah na početku uvukla u sebe i prvu trećinu stripa sam istinski uživao i mislio sam da će ovo biti megaklasik, ali u jednom trenutku su dogodi obrat koji mi se ne sviđa i druge dvije trećine stripa su mi nešto slabije.
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Originally posted by pcoro
Strip je prilično dobar. .... vidi se da je napravljen s iskrenom ljubavlju i zato većim dijelom funkcionira. Crtež je predivan ...
S ovim iznad se u cijelosti slažem.
Za predivan crtež ocjena 10, dok je priča između 7,5 do 8.
Za preporuku za čitanje, ali za mene nije remek djelo.
Mene je iziritirao samo jedan detalj, a to je prikaz "zabavnog, veselog i uzvišenog života" prostitutki, što me malo podsjetilo na bljuvot film Zgodna žena (Pretty Woman).
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anto
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Posted - 04/03/2020 : 17:42:40
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Zabranjena luka,italjanskih autora,Tereze i Stefana (koji su u stvarnom životu par) je definitivno jedan od najmarkantijih strip albuma prošle godine,i iako sam imao ovde visoka očekivanja,opet sam na neki način ugodno iznenađen samim stripom,mada ne i oduševljen.
Abela,mladog brodolomnika pronalazi gospodin Roberts,prvi oficir jednog engleskog broda,i prima ga u svoju posadu kao malog od palube,dok ne stignu u Englesku.On je inače zamenio kapetana,koji je nedavno pokrao plen sa broda i ubio par ljudi te netragom nestao.
Dečak će se pokazati kao jako neobičan te veoma sposoban za broske poslove,i prirašće za srce svima.
Kad stignu u domovinu,Robertson vodi dečaka u gostionicu kod tri sestre,inače kćeri ozloglašenog kapetana,i tamo ga smešta;Abel će sa devojkama razviti različite odnose,pri čemu će ga najmanja prosto obožavati;ali najintrigantniji odnos će imati sa vlasnicom lokalnog bordela,lepom i setnom Rebekom,kao i jednu zajedničku osobinu - obadvoje vide na horizontu,u magli,nepostojeću luku.
Zabranjena luka je prelepo nacrtani i jako lepo ispripovedan miks avanture,romanse,trilera,mistike,a sve to zavijeno u poetičnu foliju.
Što se tiče crteža - definitivno jedan od upečatljivijih koje sam imao prilike gledati.Iako sam ljubitelj obojenog stripa,ovde je baš fazon u crno/belom.
Što se tiče priče - prva trećina me rasturila;način na koji Tereza vodi priču,dijalozi...ma sve za čistu desetku.I taman kad sam pomislio da sam dobio još jedan strip iz kategorije 5+/5, priča,za moj ukus,počinje da bude malo prerazvučenija,natrpanija tekstom,kao i poezijom,čiji nisam ljubitelj.Kraj jako dobar.
Sa jedne strane,strip toplo preporučujem, a sa druge ostaje mala žal što priča nije bila,barem za mene, nešto bolja.
4.5/5
*Zabranjena luka spada u one stripove kojima će te se više puta vraćati;plus za njega
*samo izdanje je jedno od lepših Fibrinih (što baš i nije lako u žestokoj konkurenciji)
*skroz sam zadovoljan prevodom Ružice Babić
*otrilike,od prelomnog trenutka usripu (ko je čitao zna o čemu pričam) kreće taj neki pad,opet ponavljam,za mene,u priči.Ko zna,možda kod sledećeg čitanja promenim mišljenje.I znam da ću opet zvučiti malo "balkanski",ali za to vidim kao krivca pol autora - samo žena može ovako da zamrsi,bespotrebno,priču koju je fenomanalno vodila. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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anto
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Posted - 04/03/2020 : 17:45:04
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Originally posted by pcoro
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Priča me odmah na početku uvukla u sebe i prvu trećinu stripa sam istinski uživao i mislio sam da će ovo biti megaklasik, ali u jednom trenutku su dogodi obrat koji mi se ne sviđa i druge dvije trećine stripa su mi nešto slabije. Ono što mi se nije svidjelo je što ima puno poezije, ali i unutarnjih monologa likova koji opasno liče na one poruke s boca Jane. Ne da sam protiv poezije, nego mi ruši ritam stripa - ako se koncentriram na stihove, slabije pratim priču pa me onda to nekako omete.
Možda ga pročitam još jednom pa ću vidjeti da či će se dojmovi popraviti..
E da, nakon kraja ima još dvije strane nekog epiloga koji je bezveze. Minus.
sad će ispasti da sam prepisivao
jedino u čemu se ne slažemo,to je epilog - meni je baš sjajno legao. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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bonjovi4ever
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Posted - 05/03/2020 : 13:19:32
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Hehe, meni je pa baš poezija digla strip, osobito u drugoj polovici ;) Ona Abelova prisjećanja jesu katkad malo napornija, ali istovremeno i intrigriraju i tjeraju te da nagađaš o sudbini koja ga je zadesila, dok je popratna poezija sasvim prikladno ubačena u priču. Čak su me autori natjerali da nabavim preko eBaya neke od tamo spomenutih zbirka pjesama. Ali opet je sasvim jasno da nekome, tko ne čita (voli) poeziju, to bude pomalo distrakcija i umanji sveukupni dojam.
Mada nekako mi se čini da autore, po pitanju prihvaćanja poezije, tako nešto ni nije pretjerano zamaralo. Osmislili su pripovjedno i likovno priču za koju si ih inspirirala sad već gotovo zaboravljena djela iz života moreplovaca (ili makar zaljubljenika u more i putovanja), osobito poezija, a čiji su i sami strastveni obožavatelji. Osjeti se to u stripu, a i u kratkom osvrtu na autorski dvojac, zajedno s njihovim popratnim bilješkama.
Da ne kažem da treba popriličan talent sve to idejno osmisliti i pripovjedno uklopiti u jednu ovakvu priču, nerijetko uzevši stihove kao narativne pokretače i inspiraciju za likovnu pozadinu.
P.S. i di ste me sad sjetili na poruke s boca Jane. Na poslu imam takve boce za zalijevanje cvijeća. I sebe. Svako malo te boce negdje po bolnici ostaju, plastične ili staklene. Ali uopće nisam obraćao pozornost na poruke. Valjda ih odavno podsvjesno ignoriram. Ali kad ste mi već svrnuli pozornost na to self-help sranje, sad ću vam ih sve očitati:
"Onaj tko živi u harmoniji sa samim sobom, u harmoniji je sa cijelim svijetom."
"Stvori sretan dom i u njemu ćeš biti sretan čovjek."
"Inspiracijom iz dubine mijenjaj svijet oko sebe."
"Pronađi sklad u neskladu. I rasute zvijezde čine savršen prizor."
Ova zadnja boca me dotukla pa neću dalje.
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AleksandarN
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Posted - 07/05/2020 : 20:26:40
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Kada je izasla najava za ovaj strip, naslovna stranica mi se mnogo dopala ali ne i preview i tako odlucih da preskocim. Onda me je nesto vuklo, narcotio kratak poetican opis sa sajta jer mnogo volim poeziju ali opet mi se crtez nije dopadao. I tako sam pre par dana kupovao neke stripove u Alan Fordu i Zabranjena Luka je stajala na vidnom mestu. Uzeo sam u ruke, prelistao i nesto je sinulo. Kupio sam strip (iako mi je racun vec bio petocifren). Isti dan sam poceo da ga citam. Vec posle trecine sam bio odusevljen! Crtez je savrseno legao uz pricu i nisam mogao da verujem da mi se na prvu loptu nije dopao. Ocekivao sam tragediju i to sto ce mi razderati srce i doslo je pred kraj kada kapetan Nathan cita pismo svoje voljene. Ni jedan strip me nije tako slomio na najdivniji nacin. Slicno sam se osecao na kraju filma "The Broken Circle Breakdown" (ko je gledao, znace o cemu pricam) - razoren! Poezija u stripu je predivna i kao da je pisana za Zabranjenu Luku. Pise na kraju koji im je bio soundtrack, meni je lezao Savatage uz ovo delo iako ih nisam slusao od srednje skole. Maestralno odradjen strip pun ljubavi, ceznje i istinskih emocija. Nekako imam utisak da bi neko postao bolji covek kad procita ovaj strip i prosto mami zelju da zagrlite voljenu osobu. Remek-delo kojem cu se prvom prilikom vratiti. Ovaj strip preporucujem svakome! Pa cak i ljubiteljima akcionih stripova jer svako od nas ima emocije u sebi koje uz ovo delo isplivati na povrsinu a verovatno i otkriti zaboravljenu ljudskost koju krijemo u sebi. I ne mogu da verujem koliko bi mi zivot bio siromasniji bez ovog dela!
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jaki
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naker
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Posted - 26/03/2021 : 20:03:24
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Uf, gde početi?
Dirljiva i setna atmosfera neuzvraćene ljubavi, poezija plime i oseke ljudskog srca uz fenomenalan crtež koji ništa ne bi izgubio ni da je obojen, mesečev srp koji se ukazuje kroz ceo strip da bi se simbolika otkrila tek na kraju.. zabranjena luka koja nam se prikazuje kao fatamorgana, deluje tako stvarno ali dok trepneš iščeznuće, samo istinski sanjari će naći put do nje..
Da, ima ovde dosta poezije ali ovo je tako kvalitetno i gusto sročen strip da me je iznenadio u najprijatnijem mogućem smislu
Samo izdanje je takođe hvale vredno i izbog papira je pun pogodak za ovaj strip
Zabranjena luka je strašno, strašno lep strip. Ovo je samo za najveće posvećenike  |
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don_draper
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Posted - 14/09/2021 : 01:13:35
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Za polagani opraštaj od ljeta, mora i obale smatrao sam prigodnim pročitati ovaj strip.
Ono što gotovo odmah upada u oči je jedinstveni crtež koji se uglavnom bazira na olovci. Vrlo zanimljivo i dojmljivo, ali meni osobno nije previše sjelo. Na momente se činilo nedovršeno, a i proporcije i izrazi lica su djelovali karikaturalno na momente.
Priča je podosta klasična, ali lijepo teče. Iako je predvidljiva, ipak ima onaj dio magije kakav se vidi u Disney animiranim filmovima i teško je odoljeti tome i gledati tako striktno na to. Umjetnički na visokom nivou, zahvaljujući, između ostalog, i nemaloj dozi poezije. Iako nisam baš od poezije ovdje je to imalo itekako dobro osmišljenu funkciju koju se nadam bolje shvatiti u nekom novom čitanju.
Negdje do zadnjih 100 str. priča mi se činila neoriginalno i zamorno predvidljivo, iako simpatično osmišljeno. Do samog kraja autori izvlače najbolje iz sebe i stvaraju emocije na svakom koraku te se na kraju stječe i glad za još toga. Stvarno lijep epilog kakav vrlo čvrsto podiže kvalitetu samog uratka.
Možda sam pomalo strog prema stripu zbog reputacije, ali na kraju je i mene pridobio. Teško je preći preko nekoliko mana koje krase ovaj pomalo naivni strip, ali na kraju izmami to sve osmijeh na lice, a nekome možda i suzu. Zar treba veći dokaz uspjehu?
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BeaGea
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Posted - 10/01/2022 : 11:40:26
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| Fantastičan crtež ali mučim se sa sadržajem. Priča mi nikako ne leži tj. nezanimljiva mi je. Crtež vanserijski, pogotovo jedrenjaka i njihova plovidba morem. |
Kažite mi, jeste li se umorili
Jesu li vas prevarili
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tex2
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Posted - 27/01/2022 : 11:42:52
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| Simpatičan strip, svidio mi se! |
"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati."
"The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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FIBRA PREDSTAVLJA: ORKA SP 34 Zabranjena luka
