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paro
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 12:19:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BeaGea

potencija -> potencijalno...

Poradi malo na pismenosti ;)

Sutra izlazim iz izolacije. Žena dobila virus, ali zahvljajući distanci i maskama klinci i ja se nismo zarazili.



Jbte, dobra distanca, gdje si je potjerao?
U podrum?

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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delboj
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 12:37:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send delboj a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by paro

quote:
Originally posted by delboj

quote:
Originally posted by DODSFERD

https://www.poslovni.hr/sci-tech/konacno-jedna-dobra-vijest-imunitet-nakon-zaraze-koronavirusom-traje-godinama-4259486


Ima ljudi koji su se već zarazili dva puta, tako da je u to teško povjerovati.



Imunitet nakon prve zaraze navodno traje 6-9 mjeseci max.


Ma traje samo dva-tri mjeseca, znam ovdje dva slučaja koji su se ponovo zarazili poslije oko dva mjeseca. Priče o vakcinama su vrlo diskutabilne, nije bezbjedno primati svakakve vakcine.
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BeaGea
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 12:45:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by paro

quote:
Originally posted by BeaGea

potencija -> potencijalno...

Poradi malo na pismenosti ;)

Sutra izlazim iz izolacije. Žena dobila virus, ali zahvljajući distanci i maskama klinci i ja se nismo zarazili.



Jbte, dobra distanca, gdje si je potjerao?
U podrum?



Baš se jučer složil s prijateljem da je najlakše držati distancu sa svojom ženom

Kažite mi, jeste li se umorili
Jesu li vas prevarili
Je l'nas vrijeme pregazilo
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izivko
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 13:07:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message
Naglasak je ovo sa svojom.

Have mercy
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panzer
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 13:16:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message
Nearly 50,000 doctors and scientists, 630,000 citizens have signed global anti-lockdown proclamation:
https://justthenews.com/nearly-50000-doctors-and-scientists-630000-citizens-have-signed-global-anti-lockdown-proclamation

Big Pharma COVID "Vaccines" Are For SYMPTOMS Not The VIRUS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jEGizsmKLg

Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!

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panzer
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 13:27:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message

Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!
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BeaGea
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 15:42:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message
Zar je itko tvrdio da cemo se lockdownom riješiti virusa!? Daj te barem imajte elemetarne pristojisti u raspravama.

Kažite mi, jeste li se umorili
Jesu li vas prevarili
Je l'nas vrijeme pregazilo

Edited by - BeaGea on 21/11/2020 17:51:53
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zeljko
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 17:39:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
lokdanom se usporava priliv bolesnih u bolnicu i na respirator da ne moraju eci peci pec odlučivati ko će umrijeti te da se malo rasterete

Utabanim stazama ocaja!
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panzer
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 18:10:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message
Političari imaju svoja pravila:


Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 18:33:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

lokdanom se usporava priliv bolesnih u bolnicu i na respirator da ne moraju eci peci pec odlučivati ko će umrijeti te da se malo rasterete




Misliš da je to važno ovima koji se obrazuju na YouTube-u?

I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.

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corto33
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 19:18:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send corto33 a Private Message
Može jedan link, da se mogu obrazovati u vezi pozitivnog utjecaja lockdowna na smanjenje bolesti u populaciji?
Ili neki primjer gdje je lockdown postigao barem neki koristan efekt?


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manhunter
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 19:34:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by corto33

Može jedan link, da se mogu obrazovati u vezi pozitivnog utjecaja lockdowna na smanjenje bolesti u populaciji?
Ili neki primjer gdje je lockdown postigao barem neki koristan efekt?



Ovde gde ja živim (Kanton Bern) je pre četiri sedmice bilo oko 800 slučajeva, posle dve sedmice ih je bilo 1000 i onda su uvedene posebne mere (obavezno nošenje maski unutra, napolju u šoping ulicama i pijacama, zabrana okupljanja više od pet osoba, zabrana zimskih sportova itd), danas ih ima 466, svakog dana pada ta brojka.

Ne znam da li je to dovoljno?

I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.


Edited by - manhunter on 21/11/2020 19:34:45
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 20:32:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DODSFERD a Private Message
Ne znam kako ljudi ne shvaćaju da brojevi ne mogu ići unedogled, kada se dostigne vrhunac zaraze onda je normalno da padaju.
Dobar primjer je Francuska, dugo vremena tamo nikakve mjere nisu davale rezultata, ali kada je dostignut vrhunac normalno da su brojevi krenuli padati.

Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua
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Risar_69
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 20:37:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by DODSFERD

Ne znam kako ljudi ne shvaćaju da brojevi ne mogu ići unedogled, kada se dostigne vrhunac zaraze onda je normalno da padaju.
Dobar primjer je Francuska, dugo vremena tamo nikakve mjere nisu davale rezultata, ali kada je dostignut vrhunac normalno da su brojevi krenuli padati.


Ma svi ovi brojevi su običan fake :) imaš jednu sliku sa KillBillom, koji sloni na knjigama, a prva knjiga mu je slagana statistika-kao manipulacija sa ciframa :)
Pogledaj ovu plavu knjigicu

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bill-gates-recommends-rational-optimism-book-better-angels-our-nature-steven-pinker-amazon-bestseller-charts-a7737921.html

Kad pocneš crtati, uvek moraš imati na kraju olovke, srce, ruku i misli!

Edited by - Risar_69 on 21/11/2020 20:43:44
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zeljko
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 20:39:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
Upravo si napisao
Brkatog austrijanca je trebalo pustiti da se ispuse :D

Utabanim stazama ocaja!
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GGG
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Slovenia
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 20:45:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send GGG a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by corto33

Može jedan link, da se mogu obrazovati u vezi pozitivnog utjecaja lockdowna na smanjenje bolesti u populaciji?
Ili neki primjer gdje je lockdown postigao barem neki koristan efekt?



Francuska
https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1328417701455302658

Eu (kumulativno) vs. SAD/Švedska
https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1329811370171314178

Belgija vs. Švedska
https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1329756005643788289

Iako to nije bio cilj te studije, u studiji o Gangeltu (ako se ga tko još sječa; ima još puno interesantnih stvari, ako se kome čita) vidi se, daje još tri tjedna u lockdoen vidi porast slučajeva, a tek nakon mjesec dana počinje pad.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19509-y
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19509-y

Stara Huta za 36 minuta
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 20:48:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DODSFERD a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kiky

ja u samoizolaciji na tjedan dana. zbog potencialno zaražene kolegice na poslu.


Krajem prošlog mjeseca sam imao sličan slučaj, radio sam s kolegicom koja je dan kasnije razvila simptome i bila pozitivna na testu.
Nisam išao u nikakvu izolaciju jer me nije navela kao kontakta (sva sreća), šef je rekao da ne dolazim samo u slučaju ako razvijem simptome, a kako se to nije dogodilo nastavio sam s poslom.
Firma ionako muku muči s ljudima i ne možeš dobiti godišnji odmor jer nema tko raditi, slanje ljudi u izolaciju zbog ničega bilo bi ravno pucanju u vlastitu nogu.

Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua
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Risar_69
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 21:57:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message
Kad čete se za boga probuditi... evo još jednom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cslf4DpvxbM

Kad pocneš crtati, uvek moraš imati na kraju olovke, srce, ruku i misli!
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corto33
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Posted - 21/11/2020 : 22:15:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send corto33 a Private Message
Moje pitanje je bilo više generalno mišljeno.
Ovo uzko posmatranje stvari gdje se prati samo populacija koja je bila pozitivna na PCR testu ne daje cijelu sliku i vodi u pogrešne zaključke.

quote:
If one examines a tree for long enough, a thousand reasons can be derived as to why an entire forest of them is an absurdity.


Jedna zanimljiva hipoteza za USA - Covid Detections overlap the Corn/Soybean Belt:
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1329826518911102979


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GGG
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Posted - 22/11/2020 : 00:54:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send GGG a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by corto33

Moje pitanje je bilo više generalno mišljeno.
Ovo uzko posmatranje stvari gdje se prati samo populacija koja je bila pozitivna na PCR testu ne daje cijelu sliku i vodi u pogrešne zaključke.

quote:
If one examines a tree for long enough, a thousand reasons can be derived as to why an entire forest of them is an absurdity.


Jedna zanimljiva hipoteza za USA - Covid Detections overlap the Corn/Soybean Belt:
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1329826518911102979



Mislim, da to baš nema veze sa kukuruzom (ni overlap obije karte nije tako dobar, kako autor tvrdi) - ako pogledaš kartu covid detekcija, največi porast je u gradovima saveznih država srednjeg zapada, a ne se kukuruznim državama generalno. Dva su glavna razloga- jedan je sigurno geografija. Dok je u prvom valu na udaru bila uglavnom istočna obala, tamo su nekako stabilizirali stvari, ali je epidemija napredvala u unutrašnjost. SAD su velika država, a večina ljudi ne putuje puno, tako da je trebalo proči neko vrijeme, da srednji zapat "preuzme vodstvo". Tome je pripomogao i drugi razlog - večina država je pod vlašču republikanaca, koji su problem covida omalovažavali ili čak ignorirali i nekih pravih mjere nije ni bilo (najbolji primjer su obije Dakote)

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panzer
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Posted - 22/11/2020 : 00:56:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message
Facebook Denies 'Science' - Blocks Danish Study Questioning Efficacy Of Masks:
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/facebook-suppresses-danish-study-questioning-efficacy-masks

Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!
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panzer
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Posted - 22/11/2020 : 09:44:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message
The Pandemic Fraud Runs Deeper Than You Think:
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/cfe831f1-6254-403e-8ee2-6c7fd56099a6

Health Canada has no record of “COVID-19 virus” isolation:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/health-canada-has-no-record-of-covid-19-virus-isolation/

Lockdowns caused many deaths:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343775235_Evaluation_of_the_virulence_of_SARS-CoV-2_in_France_from_all-cause_mortality_1946-2020

Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

Another scam moment caught on TV:
https://www.twitter.com/ninnyd101/status/1328707911854514176

Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425

Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!

Edited by - panzer on 22/11/2020 10:06:07
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anto
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Posted - 22/11/2020 : 10:58:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message
nego ljudi,pretpostavljam da je dosta nas sa foruma zakačilo koronu (ili je trenutno ima);ja barem znam za 15-ak slučajeva,uključujući i moj.
Pitanje je da li je neko od nje i preminuo;sad baš bacih pogled na temu "Gde su..",ali nisam mogao ništa na osnovu nje da zaključim.

Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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panzer
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Posted - 22/11/2020 : 12:44:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message
Facebook, Twitter, and Google team up with UK government to censor vaccine-skeptic content online:
https://reclaimthenet.org/facebook-twitter-and-google-team-up-with-uk-government-to-censor-vaccine-skeptic-content-online/

Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!
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corto33
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Posted - 22/11/2020 : 13:07:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send corto33 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by panzer

Facebook Denies 'Science' - Blocks Danish Study Questioning Efficacy Of Masks:
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/facebook-suppresses-danish-study-questioning-efficacy-masks



Ovdje je ta danska študija:
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817


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