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kasper
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Vlladimir
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 10:20:20
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Najbolja naslovnica Pičinelija, definitvno. Čovek je pokidao!    Ugao gledanja, scena, drama, Zagorova poza... nemam reči. Fantastična naslovnica.
Venturi je do sada bio krš, ali ovde je baš uhvatio šmek stare škole, potezi četkicom, masnoća crteža, ''fleke'' u maniru starog staff-a... odličan!
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jaki
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King Warrior
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D.J.
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USA
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 11:50:01
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quote: Originally posted by legaz
quote: Originally posted by Duke Zill
https://shop.sergiobonelli.it/zagor/2021/09/30/albo/il-castello-del-vampiro-1020821/
Venturi kriminalan.
Na naslovnici presmiješan zamak/dvorac, kao u crtićima. Pa tko je to sagradio, iz čega, to malo na vrhu posve zauzeto graševinom, ajajaj... Ali nije loše, iako nije ništa posebno, ne znam što se svi dive. Međutim, crtež je unutra uistinu kriminalan. Strašno tko sve radi u SBE. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 11:53:26
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quote: Originally posted by D.J.
Venturi los, Pici odlican! E kad smo kod Picija… Prvi put ikada, susret dvije legende!

 Zagor je ipak malo stariji u ovoj epizodi, ima i sijedih, a Tex je naravno mladi Tex. 
Da, malo sijedih, i ni bore ni najmanjeg znaka starenja igdje drugdje. A barem je 15-20 godina od standardnih avantura prošlo. Kako jadno i bijedno, kao i svi ti besmisleni susreti ovih i onih. |
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Vlladimir
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 11:57:22
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quote: Originally posted by D.J.
Venturi los, Pici odlican! E kad smo kod Picija… Prvi put ikada, susret dvije legende!

 Zagor je ipak malo stariji u ovoj epizodi, ima i sijedih, a Tex je naravno mladi Tex. 
Zagor izgleda mlađe kad je stariji nego u scenama sećanja kad je bio mlađi. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 11:59:26
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   Taman tako. Ovdje ima i nekakav face-lifting |
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Vlladimir
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 12:00:17
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by legaz
quote: Originally posted by Duke Zill
https://shop.sergiobonelli.it/zagor/2021/09/30/albo/il-castello-del-vampiro-1020821/
Venturi kriminalan.
Na naslovnici presmiješan zamak/dvorac, kao u crtićima. Pa tko je to sagradio, iz čega, to malo na vrhu posve zauzeto graševinom, ajajaj... Ali nije loše, iako nije ništa posebno, ne znam što se svi dive. Međutim, crtež je unutra uistinu kriminalan. Strašno tko sve radi u SBE.
Naslovnica je geneijalna jer nema ''alan-fordovskog'' elementa. Piči je iz skice izvuko scenu, i efektivnija je od svih prethodnih ilustracija jer je svedena i rasterećena nepotrebnih detalja.
Zamak je sasvim ok. Za takvu lešinu od Rakošija, nećeš valjda očekivati zamak Versaj, koji ima poslugu i staff koji ga čisti i uređuje na dnevnom nivou?
neki nemaju ni to. |
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Curunir
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 12:02:01
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Nisam to mislio, nipošto, nego pogledaj na čemu je izgrađen, na površini gotovo manjoj od svoje baze. Kao u crtićima, kad vitez spašava djevu na vrhu čija je površina 10 kvadrata, a na njoj velik dvorac s 5 kula |
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nellesky
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 12:09:58
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"Ugao gledanja" ili RAKURS(ugao pod kojim zamišljena kamera ili oko promatrača gleda u prizor) na ovoj Piccijevoj naslovnici je u razini promatrača(gledamo prizor koji je izravno pred nama u razini očiju, i svaki objekt u pozadini podliježe tom definiranom odnosu)dok je dvorac nacrtan u donjem rakursu tzv. žabljoj perspektivi. Po likovnoj teoriji(u suštini to je zdrav razum) nije moguće imati pogled iz dva ugla, ali eto... moguće je kod Piccija
Da je ovdje Picci pravilno crtao po rakursu npr. dvorca definitivno bismo morali moći vidjeti pod haljinu od Fride |
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Curunir
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 12:15:16
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Moguće je da mu oči imaju različitu perspektivu Dobro, dokazao je dosad nebrojeno puta da je nikakav crtač. Ali opet, slažem se s ljudima da je ova naslovnica velik napredak u odnosu na većinu prijašnjih. |
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jaki
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Vlladimir
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 12:36:28
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S obzirom da je duh Rakoša prikazan u bekstvu kroz plamen, evidentno je da zamak sa sve liticom pada, da se naginje unazad ko stepenište u rudnicima Morie. Zagorov odlučni stens i uplašena Frida koja se emotivna ućulila uz Zagora, upućuju da su sjebali krvopiju i da gledaju njegov demajs. |
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delboj
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 13:31:23
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Možda ova naslovna ostavlja dobar utisak ovako na prvi pogled, ali kad se to malo pažljivije pogleda vidi se da je previše karikaturalna. To dosad nije baš bila osobina ovog serijala. |
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Pavel
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 14:25:04
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quote: Originally posted by delboj
Možda ova naslovna ostavlja dobar utisak ovako na prvi pogled, ali kad se to malo pažljivije pogleda vidi se da je previše karikaturalna. To dosad nije baš bila osobina ovog serijala.
Općenito su Picinellijev problem te karikaturalne "magnusovske" naslovnice, pogotovo kad crta ljude. Tu bi urednik trebao uredovati i tražiti da nasovnice budu više prema modelu kakav je bio 55 godina jer jedno je unutrašnjost stripa gdje postoje različiti crtači različitih stilova, a drugo naslovnice koje bi ipak načelno trebale slijediti postavljeni kanon. |
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Hercule Poirot
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Poli
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 15:11:03
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Samo taj dio "planine", njezin kraj, na desnoj strani da se izbrise...
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Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
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Edited by - Poli on 01/10/2021 15:15:18 |
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nellesky
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D.J.
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D.J.
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 21:13:37
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by D.J.
Venturi los, Pici odlican! E kad smo kod Picija… Prvi put ikada, susret dvije legende!
Zagor je ipak malo stariji u ovoj epizodi, ima i sijedih, a Tex je naravno mladi Tex. 
Da, malo sijedih, i ni bore ni najmanjeg znaka starenja igdje drugdje. A barem je 15-20 godina od standardnih avantura prošlo. Kako jadno i bijedno, kao i svi ti besmisleni susreti ovih i onih.
Hajde, hajde, malo vise pozitivnosti. Mozda dobro sve ispadne! |
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epicentercomics/three-new-zagor-graphic-novels |
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Curunir
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 22:01:36
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Daj mi reci jedan dobar "team-up" Bonellijevih junaka. Ono, da nije uvreda pameti. Što je sljedeće? "Čiko beba i Flok na Ontariju", ako riješe prava za Marka?? |
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