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King Warrior
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22289 Posts

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Posted - 29/01/2024 : 11:37:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 The shining
10 The sixth sense
8 Mulholland drive
7 The silence of the lambs
6 Misery
5 Seven
4 Taxi driver
3 Gone girl
2 Nocturnal animals
1 U turn
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sawitch
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Serbia
39970 Posts

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Posted - 29/01/2024 : 13:05:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zula
Where Eagles Dare je jako dobar film, ali zaista nije triler. Prije akcija, avanatura, ratni... ili špijunski. Ah da, nemamo kategoriju - špijunski film...



Sta ja znam, verovatno si u pravu. Ali meni ostao odavno neki thrill kada je u pitanju secanje na osecanja oko tog filma..
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Zula
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988 Posts

Member since 07/10/2015

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 13:55:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 El secreto de sus ojos
10 Memories of Murder
8 The Usual Suspects
7 Angel Heart
6 Se7en
5 Tri Kondorova dana
4 Chinatown
3 The Tenant
2 Fargo
1 Straw Dogs
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alexts
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Serbia
7597 Posts

Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 13:57:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Vertigo
10 Psycho
8 The Silence of the Lambs
7 North by northwest
6 Rear Window
5 Angel Heart
4 Marathon Man
3 Basic Instinct
2 The Conversation
1 Dirty Harry
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ponki
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
3109 Posts

Member since 20/09/2008

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 14:50:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ponki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Seven
10 The Game
8 The departed
7 The silence of lambs
6 Basic instict
5 Primal Fear
4 The French connection
3 Spy game
2 Rear window
1 LA confidential


Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.

Edited by - ponki on 29/01/2024 14:52:39
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sawitch
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Serbia
39970 Posts

Member since 17/11/2007

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 15:49:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Uzeo moju listu i malo istumbao. Uvek sam znao da cenis moje misljenje 😂
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manhunter
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Switzerland
25129 Posts

Member since 17/09/2004

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 20:24:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 The Silence of the Lambs
10 Vertigo
8 The Gift
7 Cape fear
6 Kalifornia
5 Rebecca
4 Basic instinct
3 Misery
2 Picnic at Hanging Rock
1 What lies beneath


I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.


Edited by - manhunter on 30/01/2024 07:25:18
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dovlajoe
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Serbia
345 Posts

Member since 11/01/2019

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 22:00:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dovlajoe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - Psycho
10 - Third man
8 - The Silence of the Lambs
7 - Rear Window
6 - Vertigo
5 - North by Northwest
4 - Angel Heart
3 - Basic instinct
2 - Chinatown
1 - Marathon Man
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Shaner
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Croatia
7189 Posts

Member since 24/09/2012

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 22:36:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Shaner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Oldboy
10 Climax
8 Good Time
7 Das weiße Band - Eine deutsche Kindergeschichte
6 La piel que habito
5 Funny games
4 The Usual Suspects
3 Black Swan
2 Titane
1 Nocturnal animals


http://onlineimpressions.blogspot.com/
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alexts
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Serbia
7597 Posts

Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 22:38:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Silence of the Lambs pobeđuje (predviđanje). OK, možda nije najbolji, ali svakako jedan od vrhunskih koga je najviše ljudi pogledalo, a to je vrlo bitno kod ovakvih glasanja.
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sawitch
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Serbia
39970 Posts

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Posted - 29/01/2024 : 22:41:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Taj film i zasluzuje da pobedi. Onakvog zlikovca cemo tesko vise igde naci. A da zanemarimo kompletnu radnju. A i jos da ga neko odglumi na onako vidokom nivou. Taj film je bez daljnjeg tri koplja ispred ostalih u ovom zanru. Definicija trilera.
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Lukeruk
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Serbia
502 Posts

Member since 17/01/2018

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 22:42:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Lukeruk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Mizeri
10 Wait until dark
8 Reservoir dogs
7 U Turn
6 Gone Girl
5 Primal Fear
4 Red Dragon
3 Dial M for Murder
2 Plavi somot
1 Hanibal

Moji glasovi nisu nesto relevantni, jer na zalost vecinu nominovanih trilera nisam gledao, ili ih se jedva secam.
Recimo od Shanerovih 10 nominovanih, nijedan mi nije poznat, kao jos mnogi sa drugih lista. Ali hvala svima na preporukama :)
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Lukeruk
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Serbia
502 Posts

Member since 17/01/2018

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 22:56:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Lukeruk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
^^ Vidis, meni su ta jagnjad bila smorna. Lik Hanibala mi je tu neubedljiv, s obzirom na okolnost da se nalazi na robiji, a svi se oko njega ponasaju kao da je upravnik zatvora, ili jos bolje, rok zvezda. Mnogo jaci utisak su mi ostavila ova dva, nazovi, nastavka. Iako je kod njih nekako podrazumevan komercijalni motiv za snimanjem, vise sam "autorskog" i "umetnickog" doziveo u njima negoli u prvom filmu.
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going going
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Serbia
11747 Posts

Member since 24/04/2012

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 23:01:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odlicna je Shanerova lista nominovanih. 4/10 sam gledao a ostalih 6 su na spisku vec neko vreme.
I meni Kad jaganjci utihnu nista specijalno. Bas me nije dirnuo taj film. I meni je Hanibal film nastavak mnogo bolje legao. Red Dragon jos uvek nisam gledao iako tu glumi moj omiljeni Harvey Keitel.
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alexts
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Serbia
7597 Posts

Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 23:39:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by going going

Odlicna je Shanerova lista nominovanih. 4/10 sam gledao a ostalih 6 su na spisku vec neko vreme.
I meni Kad jaganjci utihnu nista specijalno. Bas me nije dirnuo taj film. I meni je Hanibal film nastavak mnogo bolje legao. Red Dragon jos uvek nisam gledao iako tu glumi moj omiljeni Harvey Keitel.



Da nije ubacio par poznatihih naslova, njegova lista je mogla da se zove top opskurnih, a ne najboljih filmova žanra.

Nocturnal Animals je polupromašena rediteljska ekstravagancija, bez ikakve odlike odličnog žanrovskog filma (počev od budalaste špice za art-house filmove), kakva ne zaslužuje da se nađe u Top 500 trilera (ako je triler). Ne može svako da bude D. Linč.

Kad već komentarišemo.
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alexts
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Serbia
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Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 29/01/2024 : 23:41:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Druga dva Hanibala su dosta slabija, posebno drugi (beše Ridlijev), koji je zaboravljiv.
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Shaner
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Croatia
7189 Posts

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Posted - 30/01/2024 : 00:52:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Shaner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts

quote:
Originally posted by going going

Odlicna je Shanerova lista nominovanih. 4/10 sam gledao a ostalih 6 su na spisku vec neko vreme.
I meni Kad jaganjci utihnu nista specijalno. Bas me nije dirnuo taj film. I meni je Hanibal film nastavak mnogo bolje legao. Red Dragon jos uvek nisam gledao iako tu glumi moj omiljeni Harvey Keitel.



Da nije ubacio par poznatihih naslova, njegova lista je mogla da se zove top opskurnih, a ne najboljih filmova žanra.

Nocturnal Animals je polupromašena rediteljska ekstravagancija, bez ikakve odlike odličnog žanrovskog filma (počev od budalaste špice za art-house filmove), kakva ne zaslužuje da se nađe u Top 500 trilera (ako je triler). Ne može svako da bude D. Linč.

Kad već komentarišemo.


Filmove s moje liste ja prvi ne bih nazvao primarno trilerima, ali stavio sam ih tu vođen imdb kategorizacijom i time što filmovi koji se generalno smatraju trilerima meni nisu posebno interesantni.

E sad, ti možeš o njima misliti što god hoćeš (a s ovim da nemaju odlike žanrovskog filma si i u pravu jer ja uglavnom ne volim strogo žanrovske filmove), ali reći da su u pitanju opskurni filmovi je potpuno promašeno. U pitanju su sve redom poznati i (uglavnom) priznati filmovi čiji naslovi sigurno nisu promakli niti jednom iole ozbiljnijem filmofilu, ako već sami filmovi jesu.


http://onlineimpressions.blogspot.com/
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alexts
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Serbia
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Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 30/01/2024 : 01:00:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Posle svih žanrova treba da se glasa Top 10 ne-žanrovskih ili umetničkih filmova.
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 30/01/2024 : 01:05:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Šta je ozbiljan filmofil relativna je stvar. Imamo glavnog selektora Festa i direktora naše kinoteke, koji se zgražava na pomen nekog američkog, holivudskog, žanrovskog, komercijalnog filma, a topi se od miline kad priča o opskurnim "art" ostvarenjima.

To je za mene neozbiljno.
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ponki
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
3109 Posts

Member since 20/09/2008

Posted - 30/01/2024 : 07:19:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ponki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by manhunter

12 The Silence of the Lambs
10 Vertigo
8 The Gift
7 Cape fear
6 Kalifornia
5 Rebecca
4 Basic instinct
3 Misery
2 Picnic at Hanging Rock
1 The Gift




Zar se može isti film dva puta bodovati ili to samo ti imaš tu privilegiju
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manhunter
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Switzerland
25129 Posts

Member since 17/09/2004

Posted - 30/01/2024 : 07:25:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Ispravio!

I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.

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ponki
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
3109 Posts

Member since 20/09/2008

Posted - 30/01/2024 : 07:36:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ponki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shaner

12 Oldboy
10 Climax
8 Good Time
7 Das weiße Band - Eine deutsche Kindergeschichte
6 La piel que habito
5 Funny games
4 The Usual Suspects
3 Black Swan
2 Titane
1 Nocturnal animals




Pokušavaš li nam nešto poručiti: Stari dečko,Klimaks,Dobro vrijeme...

Na listi neki meni nepoznati naslovi... bacim pogled na njih
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don_draper
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Member since 08/06/2018

Posted - 30/01/2024 : 07:48:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 The Departed
10 Se7en
8 The Usual Suspects
7 Rear Window
6 Silence of the lambs
5 Taxi Driver
4 LA Confidential
3 Chinatown
2 Misery
1 Sicario

I sell the fact that I can't be bought
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alexts
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Serbia
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Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 30/01/2024 : 08:01:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ponki



Na listi neki meni nepoznati naslovi... bacim pogled na njih



"Opskurni" je termin.
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alexts
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Serbia
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Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 30/01/2024 : 08:15:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by don_draper

12 The Departed
10 Se7en
8 The Usual Suspects
7 Rear Window
6 Silence of the lambs
5 Taxi Driver
4 LA Confidential
3 Chinatown
2 Misery
1 Sicario



Ja se slažem da je ponekad teško odvojiti krimi film od trilera (videti prvu stranicu ovog topika, gde je sawitch predvideo kategoriju "krimi" pod tačkom 8. - tako da filmovi tog žanra neće ostati uskraćeni), ponekad je i nemoguće, jer ima preplitanja - dobar deo trilera ima veze sa kriminalom (skoro svaki).

Ali, čisto teoretski-analitički, da diskutujemo - Chinatown je film mirnog tempa, atmosfere, radnja se razvija lagano, on ne sadrži uzbuđenja, napetost, dinamiku... pravi je primer krimi filma.

To što su na IMDB dodali i triler (ne treba mi sad komentar - nisam gledao IMDB, govorim uopšteno!) je u ovom slučaju pogrešno, koliko i što nisu dopisali noir, jer bez obzira što je u boji (odličnoj fotografiji), Kineska četvrt je klasičan krimi-noar.

Iz sličnih razloga Taksista je krimi-drama (ovde IMDB korektan), ali nije triler, ni malo.

Još par filmova žanrovski sumnjivo na draperovoj listi.
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