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Tonto
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 08:24:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fandango


Mad Max je postapokalipsa, a Children of Men distopija. U prvom se civilizacija urusila, a u drugom drustvo distorziralo. Svaki je dobar na svoj nacin, a to sto Mad Max nije nominiran, steta. Fury Road je nominiran pa nitko ne glasa.

Pa da, ali se podjednako imaju pravo smatrat sf-om. Stvar je u tome sto ih ljudi uglavnom ne percipiraju kao sf ili barem ne prvenstveno kao sf i zato nema toliko glasova za takvu vrstu filmova.

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ridiculus
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 08:36:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ridiculus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pa prvi Mad Max se više bavi sudbinom jedne porodice, dok Children of Men sadrži pogled na sudbinu čovečanstva.

Čak i ja, koji zaista volim (skoro) čitav serijal Mad Max, čak i ja bih glasao za njega u okvirima akcionog žanra (gde nisam imao vremena da poređam favorite u listu, pa i nisam poređao).

Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool.
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fandango
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 08:39:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pa to je zato sto ljudi sf percipiraju prvenstveno i instinktivno kao nesto u svemiru, pa onda i de facto drame kao Gravity budu sf po defaultu percepcije, a sf-ovi kao Mad Max ili Children of Men (ili Pleme spiljskog medvjeda, morao sam) ne budu.
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vukozec
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 08:50:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Blade Runner 1982
10 2001: A Space Odyssey 1968
8 Logan's Run
7 Metropolis 1927
6 The Terminator 1984
5 Twelve monkeys
4 Forbidden Planet 1956
3 Planet of the Apes 1968
2 Alien 1979
1 Soylent Green

Edited by - vukozec on 19/03/2024 16:31:33
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alexts
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 08:51:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fandango

Pa to je zato sto ljudi sf percipiraju prvenstveno i instinktivno kao nesto u svemiru



Pa koji su to ljudi? Neka površna publika? Ovde na forumu ima dosta ljudi i koji čitaju SF i dobro znaju da u SF može da uđe mnogo najrazličitijih stvari.
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vukozec
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 08:58:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Prvi Mad Max zapravo imam vrlo malo SF elemenata - prilično je nejasno u kojem trenutku i društvenom uređenju se radnja odvija, nepažljivom gledatelju gotovo da može promaći da to nije sadašnjost, no ipak je sve nekako pomaknuto pa nam je jasno da je riječ o distopiji.

Najizraženije SF elemente u MM franšizi naravno ima Road Warrior. Fury Road je prvenstveno akcijski film, smješten u MM univerzum, no i on ima nekih antropoloških "soft" SF elemenata, dakle sličniji je Herbertu nego Asimovu :)
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alexts
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 09:07:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Prvi Mad Max zapravo imam vrlo malo SF elemenata - prilično je nejasno u kojem trenutku i društvenom uređenju se radnja odvija, nepažljivom gledatelju gotovo da može promaći da to nije sadašnjost, no ipak je sve nekako pomaknuto pa nam je jasno da je riječ o distopiji.

Najizraženije SF elemente u MM franšizi naravno ima Road Warrior. Fury Road je prvenstveno akcijski film, smješten u MM univerzum, no i on ima nekih antropoloških "soft" SF elemenata, dakle sličniji je Herbertu nego Asimovu :)




Slažem se.
Kao dječarac, ja sam mislio da se Mad Max dešava u Australiji, u vreme kad je i snimljen film.
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fandango
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 09:12:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Koji ste vi to film gledali kad prvi Mad Max pocinje natpisom "A few years from now..."?

Sto se tice odgovora na pitanje koji su to ljudi, ne znam, procijeni sam, kao sto sam i ja procijenio to koji su to ljudi kad je Tonto napisao "ljudi".
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gaspa127
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 09:46:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send gaspa127 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Inception
10 The Prestige
8 The Fifth Element
7 Demolition Man
6 Total recall (1990)
5 Robocop
4 The Matrix
3 Alien
2 Planet of the Apes (1968)
1 Avatar
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Shaner
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Croatia
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 13:02:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Shaner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Blade Runner
10 Star Wars (IV)
8 Under the Skin
7 Children of Men
6 2001: A Space Odyssey
5 Cloud Atlas
4 Close Encounters of the Third Kind
3 Solaris (1972)
2 Brazil
1 The Matrix

Iako ima još odličnih filmova u ovoj kategoriji, odabrati njih deset mi nije bio pretežak zadatak. Poredati ih je već bila potpuno druga priča.

Moram spomenuti i dva filma koji bez dvojbe pripadaju u top 10, ali zbog zadanih pravila nisu mogli biti na ovoj listi:

Le voyage dans la lune
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0000417/

La jetée
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056119/


http://onlineimpressions.blogspot.com/
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fandango
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 13:02:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Djecja muzicka skola iz Svedske izvodi Zaratustru:

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sawitch
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 13:53:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

12 Blade Runner 1982
10 2001: A Space Odyssey 1968
8 Mad Max 2 1981
7 Metropolis 1927
6 The Terminator 1984
5 Twelve monkeys
4 Forbidden Planet 1956
3 Planet of the Apes 1968
2 Alien 1979
1 Soylent Green



Mad Max 2 nije nominovan

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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sawitch
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 13:58:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sve prethodno osim Vukozecovih glasova uneto. Samo da znam gde mi je presek.

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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sawitch
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 15:36:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope
10 - Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
8 - The Terminator 2
7 - The Matrix
6 - The Fifth Element
5 - Avatar
4 - Pitch Black
3 - Dune: Part 2
2 - Stargate
1 - Independence Day

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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vukozec
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 16:31:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sawitch

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

12 Blade Runner 1982
10 2001: A Space Odyssey 1968
8 Mad Max 2 1981
7 Metropolis 1927
6 The Terminator 1984
5 Twelve monkeys
4 Forbidden Planet 1956
3 Planet of the Apes 1968
2 Alien 1979
1 Soylent Green



Mad Max 2 nije nominovan



Šteta. U tom slučaju neka bude 8 bodova za... Jenny Agutter! :)

Evo, editirano.
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naker
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Posted - 19/03/2024 : 22:16:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send naker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - 2001: A Space Odyssey
10 - Alien
8 - Blade Runner
7 - Ghost in the Shell
6 - Matrix
5 - Terminator 2
4 - Stalker
3 - Solaris '72
2 - Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
1 - Dune: Part Two
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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 13:11:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Šteta. U tom slučaju neka bude 8 bodova za... Jenny Agutter! :)

Evo, editirano.



Druze, nema ni ovog. Pocnem da unosim pa brisem. Hajde pogledaj nominacije pa izaberi filmove i stavi na listu. Nema smisla ovako.

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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Tonto
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 13:16:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sawitch

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Šteta. U tom slučaju neka bude 8 bodova za... Jenny Agutter! :)

Evo, editirano.



Druze, nema ni ovog. Pocnem da unosim pa brisem. Hajde pogledaj nominacije pa izaberi filmove i stavi na listu. Nema smisla ovako.

ma misli na logan's run, to je glumica

The less I have the more I am a happy man
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 14:03:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope
10 - Robocop
08 - Back to the Future
07 - Turbo Kid
06 - Aliens
05 - Children of Men
04 - Starship Troopers
03 - Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi
02 - Inception
01 - Her

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 14:46:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tonto

quote:
Originally posted by sawitch

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Šteta. U tom slučaju neka bude 8 bodova za... Jenny Agutter! :)

Evo, editirano.



Druze, nema ni ovog. Pocnem da unosim pa brisem. Hajde pogledaj nominacije pa izaberi filmove i stavi na listu. Nema smisla ovako.

ma misli na logan's run, to je glumica



A jbt, kako ja to da znam. Ne znam sto je tesko ispisati sve kako treba... Hvala Tonto.

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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sawitch
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 14:47:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Uneto sve do Bushida.

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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alexts
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 15:02:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sawitch

quote:
Originally posted by Tonto

quote:
Originally posted by sawitch

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Šteta. U tom slučaju neka bude 8 bodova za... Jenny Agutter! :)

Evo, editirano.



Druze, nema ni ovog. Pocnem da unosim pa brisem. Hajde pogledaj nominacije pa izaberi filmove i stavi na listu. Nema smisla ovako.

ma misli na logan's run, to je glumica



A jbt, kako ja to da znam. Ne znam sto je tesko ispisati sve kako treba... Hvala Tonto.



Editirano - mislio je u originalnom postu sa predlozima.
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vukozec
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 16:08:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sawitch

quote:
Originally posted by Tonto

quote:
Originally posted by sawitch

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Šteta. U tom slučaju neka bude 8 bodova za... Jenny Agutter! :)

Evo, editirano.



Druze, nema ni ovog. Pocnem da unosim pa brisem. Hajde pogledaj nominacije pa izaberi filmove i stavi na listu. Nema smisla ovako.

ma misli na logan's run, to je glumica



A jbt, kako ja to da znam. Ne znam sto je tesko ispisati sve kako treba... Hvala Tonto.



Pa napisao sam da sam editirao, znači editiran je originalni post :)
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ken2
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 17:16:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - blade runner
10 - 2001 odiseja u svemiru
8 - gattaca
7 - paklena naranča
6 - stalker
5 - kontakt
4 - 12 majmuna
3 - looper
2 - the abyss
1 - loganov bijeg

puno dragih filmova ipak otpalo

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Dr.GonZo
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Posted - 20/03/2024 : 18:28:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Dr.GonZo's Homepage  Send Dr.GonZo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - The Thing
10 - Aliens
8 - Blade Runner
7 - Terminator 2
6 - Mad Max: Fury Road
5 - Predator
4 - Robocop
3 - Paklena Naranča
2 - 2001 Odiseja u Svemiru
1 - The War of the Worlds (1953)

https://www.youtube.com/@HororFilmPlaygroundpredstavlja/videos - HororFilm Playground predstavlja
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