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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 09:50:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - Only Fools and Horses
10 - Seinfeld
8 - Blackadder
7 - Curb your enthusiasm
6 - Monty Python's Flying Circus
5 - Fawlty Towers
4 - Friends
3 - Frasier
2 - Yes Minister
1 - 'Allo 'Allo!

The Muppet Show, Benny Hill, Mr. Bean - nisam hteo da glasam, jer koncepcijski odudaraju, mada zaslužuju.

Little Britain, The Fast Show, Extras, pa i KYTV nisam nominovao, zanimalo me hoće li neko drugi, pošto bi samo ja glasao za njih ionako, ne menja stvar što ih nema na mojoj listi.
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vatrena_stenica
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 10:08:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vatrena_stenica a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 - Coupling (naravno britanska, jer druga ne postoji 😎)
10 - Only Fools and Horses
8 - The Thick of It
7 - Malcolm in the Middle
6 - Monty Python's Flying Circus
5 - Derry Girls
4 - The IT Crowd
3 - What We Do In The Shadows
2 - Fleabag
1 - 3rd Rock from the Sun
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ridiculus
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 10:17:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ridiculus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A nismo ubacili ni Sex and the City!

Najgori element sitkoma je snimljen smeh navodne publike koji se pušta kao orijentir i pomoć pri određivanju šta bi trebalo da nam bude smešno.


Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool.
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Tonto
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 10:20:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovako odoka bi rekao borba pajtona, seifelda i mucki... posteno.

The less I have the more I am a happy man
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vatrena_stenica
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 10:43:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vatrena_stenica a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ridiculus

A nismo ubacili ni Sex and the City!



Ako ste računali da ću ja da ih ubacim, za dž ste računali. 😂 Ko bi bre mogao da gleda i epizodu sa Džesikom, a kamoli sezonu! Meni je ta žena kao glumica baš iritantna. Priznajem da ni Friendse nisam mogla da gledam. Njih sam još i pokušala, ali mi nisu kliknuli. Ono što me sramota da priznam jeste što još Blackadder nisam pogledala. To je već tragedija. 🫣
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ridiculus
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 10:56:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ridiculus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bez brige, da mi je bilo bitno, ja bih ubacio Sex and the City.

Ali neobično mi je da je niko drugi nije predložio, s obzirom da je dosta prikazivana kod nas, i bila je popularna. Takođe, uklapa se u žanr kojim se bavimo, pa to ne može da bude izgovor. Nije ništa gora od gomile drugih koje su već pomenute ovde, a znam i ljude koji su mislili da je vrlo dobra.

Ono što ja nisam gledao, a želeo sam, su It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia i Arrested Development. Možda i Red Dwarf, jer se ističe u nedostatku serija sa sličnim okruženjem (one koje postoje, a dobre su, su animirane).

Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool.
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Tonto
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 11:13:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sluzbeno najdebilnija serija s najiritantnijim likovima ikad. Serija o droljama koje skacu s *urca na kavu i s kave na *urac.

The less I have the more I am a happy man
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ridiculus
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 11:17:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ridiculus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tonto

Sluzbeno najdebilnija serija s najiritantnijim likovima ikad.



Kad je to bila prepreka za nominacije?

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Tonto
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 11:19:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Takodjer mislim da joj nikako nije mjesto ovdje jer joj humor (ako ga netko tu vidi) nije nikakav forte. Po tome smo ovdje mogli stavljat i boston legal i ally mcbeal itd.

The less I have the more I am a happy man
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alexts
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 11:19:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ridiculus

A nismo ubacili ni Sex and the City!

Najgori element sitkoma je snimljen smeh navodne publike koji se pušta kao orijentir i pomoć pri određivanju šta bi trebalo da nam bude smešno.




Neki su snimani ispred žive publike. Što ne znači da se uvek smeju spontano...
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alexts
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 11:53:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ridiculus

Bez brige, da mi je bilo bitno, ja bih ubacio Sex and the City.

Ali neobično mi je da je niko drugi nije predložio, s obzirom da je dosta prikazivana kod nas, i bila je popularna. Takođe, uklapa se u žanr kojim se bavimo, pa to ne može da bude izgovor. Nije ništa gora od gomile drugih koje su već pomenute ovde, a znam i ljude koji su mislili da je vrlo dobra.





Sex and the City sam slučajno počeo da gledam tokom bombardovanja (dakle 99-a), kad možda nije još ni druga sezona snimljena. Na nekom od stranih satelitskih kanala (možda TV-1000), bez prevoda, dok još, uglavnom, niko kod nas nije ni čuo za seriju, a pogotovo još nije bila popularna i tek je bila započeta.

Sem što je bila fina eskapistička zabava u tim danima, mislim da je za to vreme bila revolucionarna (žene, jezik na TV, seks...). Ne znam da li su bile planirane i kasnije sezone (mada mogu da pretpostavim da nisu, nego ako bude uspeha, biće još), ali sa njima se otišlo u tipično američku komercijalizaciju i sapunicu.

Originalna ideja, snimanja baziranog na stvarnim kolumnama (romanu) je bila dobra. Izuzev koncepta, svideo mi se baš deo, koji se zove "grad" - odnosno prikaz Njujorka, koji volim i blizak mi je, bio to Spajdermen, Sajnfeld ili filmovi Vudija Alena.

Serija mi nije sitcom, nego dramedy, kao što je ranije bio Hupermen i dr.

Edited by - alexts on 20/06/2024 11:59:18
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Ernie Pike
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 16:09:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ernie Pike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Blackadder
10 Monty Python Flying Circus
8 You Rang, M'Lord?
7 Only Fools and Horses
6 Married … with Children
5 'Allo 'Allo!
4 New Statesman
3 Friends
2 Big Bang Theory
1 Sledge Hammer!
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don_draper
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 19:45:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Seinfeld
10 Blackadder
8 Friends
7 Curb Your Enthusiasm
6 Community
5 It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia
4 Veep
3 The Office (US)
2 Only Fools And Horses
1 Silicon Valley

I sell the fact that I can't be bought
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going going
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 20:46:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 The Office (američka)
10 Modern Familly
9 Monty Python's Flying Circus
8 Two and a Half Men
7 Friends
6 Only Fools and Horses
5 Alo Alo
4 Who Is America?
3 Married with Children
2 Everybody Loves Raymond
1 Community
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oko
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Posted - 20/06/2024 : 21:06:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send oko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Monty Python's Flying Circus
10 The Muppet Show
08 Only Fools and Horses
07 Fawlty Towers
06 'Allo 'Allo!
05 MASH
04 Mr. Bean
03 BlackAdder
02 The Benny Hill Show
01 Alf
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paro
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12 Only Fools and Horses
10 Monty Python
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6 New Statesman
5 Brooklyn Nine-Nine
4 Big Bang Theory
3 Afterlife
2 How I Met Your Mother
1 Bottom

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 09:48:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 The Office (američka)
10 What We Do In The Shadows
8 Only Fools and Horses
7 'Allo 'Allo!
6 Fawlty Towers
5 Mr. Bean
4 Friends
3 Married with Childern
2 The Benny Hill Show
1 Sledge Hammer!

Niko se nije sjetio Arrested Development
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Cromwell
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 09:50:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Cromwell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
12 Northern Exposure
10 Parks and Recreation
8 Office (US)
7 Fawlty Towers
6 My name is Earl
5 That '70s Show
4 Curb Your Enthusiasm
3 'Allo 'Allo!
2 Friends
1 Married with Children

Bok, kako si.
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ridiculus
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 14:18:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ridiculus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

Niko se nije sjetio Arrested Development



Jesam ja, ali suviše kasno. Doduše, nisam je gledao u bilo kakvom konstantnijem nizu da bih glasao za nju.

Ipak mi je najbolji mokumentarac Parks and Recreation, za inč iznad američkog Office-a, baš kao kod Cromwella. Možete ga gledati na Maxu, bivšem HBO-u.


Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool.
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alexts
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 15:30:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Britanski Ofis je superiorniji, a svi glasate usa?!

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alexts
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 15:32:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kad bi genijalne stvari mogle da se štancuju masovno industrijski, onda bi sve te američke novije serije bile zaista nešto.
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ridiculus
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 16:42:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ridiculus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To je samo opravdanje.

Pola serija sa tvoje liste je svetlosnim godinama daleko od genijalnosti, pa šta fali? Genijalnost je retka.

Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool.
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alexts
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 17:11:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Opet lično shvatamo nepobitnu činjenicu da amerikanci neumereno komercijalizovano štancuju ogromne količine epizoda, na uštrb kvaliteta, te tako upropaste i dobre serije, kao Treći kamen od Sunca ili Dva i po muškarca?

Edited by - alexts on 21/06/2024 17:16:31
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alexts
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 17:16:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ako baš hoćeš lična pitanja - stvarno mi nije jasno kako neko glasa seriju koja je sad u toku, za najbolju svih vremena, bez ikakvog vremenskog odmaka, dok je "u trendu", pomodna...?

Edited by - alexts on 21/06/2024 17:17:35
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ridiculus
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Posted - 21/06/2024 : 17:40:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ridiculus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts

Opet lično shvatamo nepobitnu činjenicu da amerikanci neumereno komercijalizovano štancuju ogromne količine epizoda, na uštrb kvaliteta



Štancuju, snimaju, izrađuju, produciraju, izbacuju, pa šta? Mislio sam da pričamo o najboljim, a ne o prosečnim serijama, ali očigledno sam pogrešio. Kakve veze s najboljim ima to da li snimaju 0, 10 ili 10 miliona loših epizoda godišnje? Osim toga, što je nešto duže, teže ga je sačuvati dobrim, posebno ako se pravi poput televizijskih serija, deo po deo (= produžavanje bez jasnog cilja mimo održavanja gledanosti).

Najveći aktuelni humoristički genije na američkoj televiziji je verovatno Dan Harmon, a šta imaš od njega na listi ovde ili na animaciji? Nemojmo onda olako potezati "genijalnost", koja po sebi nije u formalizmu (na čemu se baziraju tvoje recenzije serija i filmova), već u zaobilaženju istog. Vreme koje standardni sitkom potroši na poentu jedne polusmešne replike i pauzu da se "publika" sita ismeje, Harmon iskoristi da provuče 3 urnebesne scene. Takav pristup nije uvek bolji sam po sebi, ali je... drukčiji.

Stoji da je genijalnost teško odrediti, i potrebna je distanca - koja ne mora nužno da bude vremenska, mada ta uvek pomaže.

Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool.

Edited by - ridiculus on 21/06/2024 17:41:23
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