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Sarghan
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Posted - 06/02/2025 : 23:29:25
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sa SBE sitea: https://www.sergiobonelli.it/dampyr/2025/02/05/news/la-nuova-vita-del-dampyr-1025681/
If number 300 of Dampyr represents “the end of everything”, “The Son of Dampyr”, album number 301 in the newsstands from Wednesday 2 April represents a new beginning that will mark a radical turning point in our vampire hunter’s long adventure: new graphic clothing, new editore and new cover artist. From April onward, in fact, it will be MICHELE CROPERA who will be drawing the covers and frontesperson! And under the care of Gianmaria Contro the textures and the narrative parables built from here on will develop to their natural epilogue and, in fact, may be able to relaunch themselves towards future developments...
Uglavnom, "velike" promjene za Dampyra od 301. broja: - Novi urednik serijala postaje Gianmaria Contro (napisao 3 priče za serijal "Priče", 1 za Dampyra, 1 za Dylana i 3 za Martina Mysterea) - Boselli i dalje ostaje na serijalu, ali "samo" kao scenarist - Novi naslovničar serijala: Michele Cropera - Naslov 301. broja "Sin Dampyra" također odražava neku vrstu novog početka, a ujedno aludira i na naslov 1. broja serijala "Sin đavola" - Iako se neke narativne linije zatvaraju u #300, kontinuitet i dalje ostaje, no cilj je da brojevi od 301. na dalje budu više "friendly" za praćenje kod novih čitatelja s obzirom da su se neki stariji čitatelji žalili kako se kontinuitet razgranao poput labirinta i postao je težak za praćenje
crtež novog naslovničara (malo baca na Rubinija), potencijalno dio naslovnice 301. broja:
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Ferri
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doom
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Posted - 07/02/2025 : 01:58:29
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Ništa se meni ovo ne sviđa, smrdi mi na to da će Bonelli razvlačiti serijal kao Dylana kad Boselli umre. Previše je narativnih linija nezavršeno i očito se neće završavati sa budućim piscima, izgleda da Giusfredi koji je bio Bosellijeva desna ruka napušta pisanje Dampyra. Serijal se, prema Bosellijevim riječima, ne prodaje dobro, ali dovoljno da se još održi. Također kaže da bi napisao i završnu priču, ali ga to (zasada) nisu tražili.
Sad ostaje vidjeti znači li ovo i skoru promjenu urednika na Texu... |
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going going
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Posted - 07/02/2025 : 04:47:47
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Opa dakle velike promene na Dampiru. Ne bih ovo nikad ocekivao da Bosseli napusti urednicko mesto svog ceda, svog autorskog serijala na kom drzi konce preko 25 godina i vodi pricu u 300 brojeva originala i koliko vec specijala, maxija itd...
Sta li ovo znaci?
Mozda se Bosseli prezasitio, pa zeli da napusti serijal, ili je zeleo da ga zavrsi ali nema dozvolu za to pa zato napusta mesto urednika? Da li Bosseli oseca zamor materijala kod sebe? Videli smo najavu na instagramu i table koje crta Piccineli a po Bosselijevom scenariju za ZAGORA, da li mozemo mozda da ocekujemo povratak Bosselija na Zagora u velikom stilu sada i sa mnogo vise posvecenosti i sa mnogo vise prica posto je napustio mesto urednika na Dampiru i smanjio svoje obaveze na Dampiru? Nadam se da je ova moja pretpostavka tacna i da ce onda Bosseli da se posveti Zagoru (uporedo sa Teksom) i da ce da vrati na Zagora sve one crtace koje je povukao sa sobom na Dampira i Teksa da bi saradjivao sa njima dakle Rubini, Andreucci, Piccineli.... |
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doom
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Posted - 07/02/2025 : 12:16:26
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Nije se prezasitio, ima on o čemu pisati i trenutno je 5 njegovih priča u produkciji. Navodno je Bonelli ponudio neke svoje ideje za serijal, a Boselli svoje i rezultat svega je ova odluka sa novim urednikom. On ionako stalno ponavlja kako je posao urednika jako iscrpljujuć i oduzima puno vremena. Pretpostavljam da rade sličnu stvar kao sa Dragonerom, nekakvu novu sezonu, iako vjerojatno neće razbiti numeraciju. Ali očito je da se neće završavati svi otvoreni storylinei. Ja mislim da će Dampyr nastaviti izlaziti pod kojekavim marketinškim rebootovima, mini sagama/sezonama i kada konačno padne prodaja možda zatraže Bosellija da napiše kraj, ali sumnjam da da će on biti živ tada. Od Zagora nema ništa, zašto će se vraćati kad su mu svi narativni tokovi upropašteni. Dapače, on je likove poput Poea odvukao u Dampyrov univerzum.
Na Texu bi moglo doći isto do promjene, ne samo sa urednikom nego i naslovnicama. Villu su pitali na nekom festivalu da što misli tko će crtati naslovnice nakon broja 800, na što on odgovara; neznam, ali nadam se da neću ja.
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Sarghan
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Posted - 07/02/2025 : 20:13:05
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quote: Originally posted by doom
Previše je narativnih linija nezavršeno i očito se neće završavati sa budućim piscima
Iako Bonelli najavljuje neku "promjenu" smjera u pogledu status quoa i razvoja priče, i talijanski fanovi u komentarima su istog mišljenja kako to ne djeluje kao da će novi urednik razvijati kontinuitet u novim smjerovima već je njegov cilj malo po malo zatvarati postojeće narativne linije.
Ipak, najzanimljivije mi je što se u facebook komentarima spominju glasine da će se smanjiti broj stranica redovnog broja kao kod Morgana Losta i Martina Mysterea, a onaj tko vodi tu stranicu odgovara na gotovo sva pitanja osim na ta o smanjenja stranica  |
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Deers
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Posted - 07/02/2025 : 20:20:40
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Sve je to zbog toga da smanje troškove produkcije i smanje osipanje publike. Pokušavaju, za postojeće fanove, što više produžiti život junaka. Nije Contro bio urednik Priča? |
"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam." |
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Posted - 10/02/2025 : 17:22:05
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Uh, težak je Bozeli ko crna zemlja. Kad vidim da je njegova epizoda doobro se pripremim, treba dobro raspoloženje i dobra koncentracija. Zna da nakrca priču svime i svačime, guglanje obavezno. Ima dosta likova koji se sporadično javljaju još od pre stotke, i ko uleti kao padobranac u serijal pola likova ( Džim Fajela, Ana Juring, Ljuba, Bobi Kvintana "Del Toro", T-rex, stari dampir, mali dampir, etc... ) mu neće biti poznato bez predznanja.
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doom
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Posted - 12/02/2025 : 21:26:01
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Srezano na 80 stranica.
Citat od Bosellija: If I had had the strength to prepare other stories to keep in the archive for publication, I probably could have closed as I wanted, ensuring the releases for two or three more years. But we had no more stories ready. Giusfredi and I didn't make it, due to various circumstances in life, including the enormous amount of work on Tex. So in a certain sense we lost the authority and the privilege. I threw in the towel and left the decisions to others. After all, I am at retirement age as an editor. Absolutely.
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Sarghan
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Posted - 12/02/2025 : 23:10:10
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Ovo mi doslovno zvuči kao da je Boselli htio završiti serijal kroz 2-3 godine, ali nije imao vremena napisati sve epizode kako spada, pa su mu oduzeli serijal (mada, sumnjam da ga se Boselli trudio zadržati) i dali ga novom uredniku da proba zatvoriti sve postojeće narativne linije, ali da istodobno bude više reader friendly za nove čitatelje. Na kraju, više će naginjati ka drugome nego prvome.
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jaki
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doom
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Posted - 13/02/2025 : 01:39:35
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quote: Originally posted by Sarghan

Ovo mi doslovno zvuči kao da je Boselli htio završiti serijal kroz 2-3 godine, ali nije imao vremena napisati sve epizode kako spada, pa su mu oduzeli serijal (mada, sumnjam da ga se Boselli trudio zadržati) i dali ga novom uredniku da proba zatvoriti sve postojeće narativne linije, ali da istodobno bude više reader friendly za nove čitatelje. Na kraju, više će naginjati ka drugome nego prvome.
Kao što se spominje u Italiji, izgleda da je i Dampyr postao još jedna Texova kolateralna žrtva. Pokrenute su nove edicije, a nisu se doveli ljudi koji će to raditi. (Pretpostavimo da se nitko ne želi odreći najveće zarade pa moraju jedno te isti raditi sve priče.) Odluka o rezanju stranica kod Dampyra je Bonellijeva, ali ima tu i dosta Bosellijeve krivice. Sumnjam da se može završiti sve što je i dalje otvoreno kroz 2-3 godine, moj neki dojam je da je Boselli (valjda kao i svaki autor) dosta tašt i da je mislio musti to do iznemoglosti. A sada govori kako će napisati sve te završnice ako prodaja bude dozvoljavala. Što naslućuje da se on već polako ograđuje i vrlo vjerojatno da dosta toga nećemo dočekati.
P.S. Kad već pričaju na sve strane o novom Dampyru i redizajnu, mogli su bar taj novinski naslov dotjerati. U Bonelliju se uvijek nešto misle i vijećaju što učiniti, kakve promjene napraviti, a ne vide ono što im je ispred nosa. |
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doom
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 00:08:06
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Novi citat od Bosellija:
It's true, I wanted to finish in two or three years of BIMONTHLY stories, this was my proposal, and I would have continued to edit the series.
But the publishing house didn't want to give up the monthly, so I had to leave, because I really can't manage three series anymore (and I don't know how long I'll manage two). Ditto for Bonelli's choice of new pagination, new cover artist and new frontispiece.
I chose Contro and gave him carte blanche, as is right, because now the responsibility will be his. This means that I don't get involved in the elections, in any way and that I will NOT read the stories before they are published (about this later). Did he ask me for advice, did he let me read the plots, see the new drawings? But. His choice. Would I have done it in his place? I don't know, I did it with Bonelli, but it was Bonelli, the characters were his...) In short, no commitment on my part, but also no responsibility. Except... I'm still writing and I send those stories of mine to the newsstands, by gentleman's agreement, in the sense that I prepare them and I don't want any interference, but, if the editorial staff mistakenly exchanges a page in a blueprint, it will be their business.
The irritation (not anger) is due to the fact that I wasn't made to read the advertisement and the declarations first and there I would have deleted something ambiguous (like reader-friendly, a term I abhor and that makes no sense) - This, I repeat, has made me irritated towards my colleagues, so here I have my say because I'm retired and I can do it. But it can't be said that it's very serious, come on! Neither the mistake they made nor my more than legitimate public irritation, since it's about my character and Colombo that we left without saying bah! So ethically we are EQUAL! |
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 12:07:37
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Jbg, nije moga okončat vlastitu kreaciju kako je zamislija pa se lišava odgovornosti za svaki zajeb, u prijevodu "ko vas jebe". I to mi je ok. Dampyr triba završit, sve više mi na k idu serijali bez kraja na vidiku (a da nisu dio kulturološkog identiteta poput Texa). |
And like that... he's gone. |
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 14:24:09
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Mislim da je ovo najgore moguce. Ne slazem se s tim da je trebalo zavrsiti Dampyra, ali ako je Boselli vec htio poceti sa zatvaranjem serijala, trebalo mu je to biti omoguceno - ipak je to njegov serijal. Kod Dampyra bas ove epizode u kojima se prati neka veca prica su mi i najbolje, a sve redom ih je pisao Boselli. Drugi scenaristi na Dampyru se ne uspijevaju tako dobro snaci, a jos ako sad budu epizode koje su svaka za sebe, to ce biti ogroman pad kvalitete. Bas to sto se storylineovi kasnije nastavljaju mi je i bila glavna prednost serijala. |
"Losing is not my enemy. Fear of losing is my enemy." |
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 16:51:51
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Meni se to ništa ne sviđa. Kojeg smisla ima onda čitati ako ništa što je Boselli započeo neće biti završeno? I još smanjili broj stranica? Pfff...  |
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Ivan Liverpool
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Posted - 18/02/2025 : 23:57:15
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Kladim se i po novoj promo cijeni - svaki novi broj sve vise i vise kosta, jos malo pa ce doci vise od tvrdokoricenih stripova... |
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Posted - 19/02/2025 : 09:40:39
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quote: Originally posted by Ivan Liverpool
Kladim se i po novoj promo cijeni - svaki novi broj sve vise i vise kosta, jos malo pa ce doci vise od tvrdokoricenih stripova...
Evo baš gledam...100-tinjak dinara skuplje u odnosu na knjigu 6. Ali opet povoljnije od Libellusa.. Npr, zadnjih 4-5 knjiga Libellusa, kad su najviše moguće jeftina, a to su ona sa pečatom malo oštećene korice, su na zadnjoj akciji bili 22 eura po knjizi, odnosno 5,5 eura po epizodi. S druge strane, sa popustom, kod vč će oko 4 eura koštati po epizodi.. |
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