Author |
Topic  |
fandango
Senior Member
   

1638 Posts
Member since 10/06/2004 |
Posted - 13/03/2024 : 15:19:24
|
Za Ridleya su pisali (i jos uvijek pisu, referenca Napoleon) da su mu filmovi toliko dobri koliko je dobar scenarij po kojem radi, a za Tonyja stoji, i to je dobrim dijelom ta videospotovska estetika.
Fincher je dosao oko desetljece kasnije i tada se diskurs vec poceo mijenjati, barem koliko ja pamtim. Mislim da je to zato sto je vjerojatno stasao dio kritike naviknut na MTV i videospotove pa im takva vizualna prezentacija nije bila toliko strana koliko onima starijima odraslima na nekim drugim filmovima. |
 |
|
alexts
Advanced Member
    

Serbia
9065 Posts
Member since 25/09/2005 |
Posted - 13/03/2024 : 16:02:27
|
quote: Originally posted by fandango
Za Ridleya su pisali (i jos uvijek pisu, referenca Napoleon) da su mu filmovi toliko dobri koliko je dobar scenarij po kojem radi, a za Tonyja stoji, i to je dobrim dijelom ta videospotovska estetika.
Fincher je dosao oko desetljece kasnije i tada se diskurs vec poceo mijenjati, barem koliko ja pamtim. Mislim da je to zato sto je vjerojatno stasao dio kritike naviknut na MTV i videospotove pa im takva vizualna prezentacija nije bila toliko strana koliko onima starijima odraslima na nekim drugim filmovima.
Nije isto od kako se Ridley u kasnijoj fazi bacio na hiper-produkciju (više snima pod stare dane, nego u ranijem naponu snage), kad su takvi komentari odgovarajući, mada omalovažavaju funkciju reditelja.
Sa onim kako je nekada bilo, kad je po filmovima koji su odskakali od dotadašnjih, po više osnova, slovio za genijalca.
Veći je problem ono što je nastalo posle Majkla Beja, kad je hipertrofiranom upotrebom brze montaže i pokreta kamere, dovedeno do toga da filmovi deluju nasumično kadrirani i prebrzo kompjuterski montirani, kod svakog komercijalno-akcionog reditelja, zarad dinamike, a na uštrb jasnoće percepcije i prepoznatljivosti autorskog rukopisa, koji je počeo da se gubi, kad svi liče jedan na drugog. |
Edited by - alexts on 13/03/2024 16:03:00 |
 |
|
Tonto
Advanced Member
    

8870 Posts
Member since 11/02/2012 |
|
fandango
Senior Member
   

1638 Posts
Member since 10/06/2004 |
Posted - 13/03/2024 : 19:47:54
|
Ne omalovazavaju funkciju redatelja, vec vise govore o Ridleyu kao redatelju. Realno, i u naponu snage je bio malo dobar pa malo ne. Nakon Aliena i Istrebljivaca je snimio sto? Legendu, Detektiva i damu i Crnu kisu. Solidno, ali nista vise od toga, i onda izvrsne Thelmu i Louise, i onda opet malo sarao do Gladijatora. |
 |
|
alexts
Advanced Member
    

Serbia
9065 Posts
Member since 25/09/2005 |
Posted - 13/03/2024 : 20:06:38
|
quote: Originally posted by fandango
Ne omalovazavaju funkciju redatelja, vec vise govore o Ridleyu kao redatelju. Realno, i u naponu snage je bio malo dobar pa malo ne. Nakon Aliena i Istrebljivaca je snimio sto? Legendu, Detektiva i damu i Crnu kisu. Solidno, ali nista vise od toga, i onda izvrsne Thelmu i Louise, i onda opet malo sarao do Gladijatora.
Pa znam, ali bih mogao u svakom trenutku da ti nabrojim 100 reditelja koji nikad nisu ni snimili filmove blizu kvaliteta Aliena, Runnera, Gladijatora i Telme. Ni jedan, a posebno ne više. Nije svima hendikep bio što nisu imali bolji scenario. S druge strane, ne može ga ni slabiji scenario oslobađati odgovornosti.
Black Rain i Legend su kvalitetni filmovi. Legenda je snimljena pre mnogih fantasy filmova i kad je izašla bila je nešto posebno. Detektiv i dama je jedino slabiji, solidan samo.
Ne razumem šta govori o njemu, pozitivno ili ne? Obzirom da ima slučajeva da nekompetentan režiser upropasti dobar scenario, za koji se onda u finalnom delu i ne primeti uvek da je dobar, ispada pozitivno? |
 |
|
Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
12955 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
|
vukozec
Advanced Member
    

5023 Posts
Member since 17/08/2013 |
|
naker
Advanced Member
    

5024 Posts
Member since 05/06/2020 |
|
Shaner
Advanced Member
    
Croatia
7462 Posts
Member since 24/09/2012 |
|
King Warrior
stripovi.com suradnik
    

22343 Posts
Member since 10/11/2007 |
|
verab
Senior Member
   
Croatia
2910 Posts
Member since 22/01/2015 |
|
wesskowaz
Advanced Member
    

Serbia
11681 Posts
Member since 10/07/2007 |
|
Topic  |
|