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KOMIKO
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Serbia
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Posted - 17/01/2013 : 07:56:00
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"Kada su prvi put objavljena pre skoro četrdeset godina, ova dva bisera Žaka Tardija izazvala su nemali skandal u ondašnjoj francuskoj javnosti. Bez preterivanja se može reći da su oba stripa maestralna studija ljudske psihe koja je doživela slom i koja se do poslednjeg trenutka tetura i, poput pijanca koji se hvata za plot, čas pridržava za zbilju, a čas za maštu."
Žak Tardi: ISTINITA PRIČA O NEZNANOM JUNAKU ŠARLOOVA KLACKALICA
Prevod: Goran Kostrović Lektura: Duška Rajković Dizajn: Ana Šimon Strana: 64 Štampa: crno-belo Povez: tvrdi Format: 17x24 cm Tiraž: 700 primeraka Cena 900 dinara
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Edited by - KOMIKO on 17/01/2013 09:27:03
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Poli
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Slovenia
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Johnny Difool
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Croatia
13988 Posts
Member since 21/02/2010 |
Posted - 17/01/2013 : 10:18:15
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Izvrsno! Novi sjajni Tardi!! Ludnica!!!
Šaljite u Zagreb!!!! |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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JefCostello
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JAH WOBBLE
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JefCostello
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257 Posts
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Posted - 17/01/2013 : 14:47:18
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da, hvala, znači do sada neobjavljivano kod nas odn. od strane Fantagraphicsa... odlično... |
"Comics will be the culture of the year 3794" Salvador Dali |
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axle munshine
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Serbia
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Posted - 17/01/2013 : 19:12:23
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Svaka cast na izboru Vuce, ovo je pravo najprijatnije iznenadjenje! Ali me odmah k'o prstom u oko pogodi taj americki format, posle Comesa i "Le Silence" sad i ovo na manjem formatu!?! Ovo je moralo ici na vecem formatu...Trebao si makar kao Markos sto je odradio sa "Ici meme", ali sta sada to vredi, znam da je sad za to kasno... |
...BD, c'est la vie... |
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KOMIKO
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Serbia
1950 Posts
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axle munshine
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Serbia
2372 Posts
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Posted - 17/01/2013 : 22:11:45
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quote: Originally posted by KOMIKO
Lepo mu leži format, ima dva kaiša po strani, krupni su planovi i čista linija, deluje vrlo kompaktno i čitko. Videćeš i sam.
Heh, ajde, ako ti tako kazes...videcemo...u odnosu na "Tisinu" ovde te barem "vadi" HC... |
...BD, c'est la vie... |
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KOMIKO
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Serbia
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zokalav
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stbojan
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/03/2013 : 21:53:45
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Nisam imao nikakvu predstavu o ove dve price pre nego sto sam uzeo strip (priznajem da je bilo na slepo i da je Tardi "povukao")... i iskreno, vrlo sam prijatno iznenadjen nakon citanja... na prvu loptu deluje sve malo haoticno i kao da si u necijem kosmaru i da ne mozes da pohvatas sta se desava, ali na kraju sve dobije savrsen smisao... jako dobro... obe price, svaka na svoj nacin... steta sto nema neki propratni tekst uz strip, izuzev jedne male, ali bitne primedbe prevodioca na kraju... mislim da bi izdanje dobilo jos vise na kvalitetu i da bi uzivanje bilo vece... ovaj strip i autor to sigurno zasluzuju, ali ko zna mozda se to pojavi i izadje u "drugom, prosirenom" izdanju... |
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KOMIKO
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Serbia
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tronožac
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Serbia
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Jocko
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Serbia
1138 Posts
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Posted - 28/07/2021 : 00:42:57
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Drugo čitanje, ima spojlera
Ovo sam overio tek u januaru ove godine, i sada na drugo čitanje kraću od dve priče (Šarloova klackalica) i dalje ne mogu da skapiram. Obe priče povezuju dvojica glavnih likova (koji donekle fizički sliče), jedan koji na kraju umire na ratištu, drugi koji završava na giljotini. Svideo mi se kraj prve priče... sav užas sopstvene nakaradne proze prolazi kroz glavu pisca pogođenog na ratištu 1918. godine, neznanog junaka takoreći, ovenčanog slavom dve godine kasnije. Potpuni, otkačeni, šizoidni, perverzni nadrealizam koji na kraju dobiva realnu dimenziju (kao u onom potonjem filmu Jacob's Ladder), gde saznajemo da život piše veće i teže drame od bilo koje fikcije.
Druga priča je takođe, o povratniku iz Velikog rata, koji biva upleten u čudan slučaj sa matorim komšom, perverznom devojčurom te nekakvom nakaznom beba-čikicom. Ništa nisam skapirao, zašto je završio na giljotini, ali priča kao i prva poentira - ratni heroj neslavno završava na šarloovoj klackalici, odnosno giljotini.
Tardi crtački jako dobar, naročito u prikazima arhitekture i nadrealnim scenama prve priče. Dobro je što ove priče idu u kompletu iako su iz različitih godina, jer imaju neke zajedničke elemente koje sam već izložio.
Što se mene tiče, dosta mi je dobar Tardi, i iako važi za prekaljenog i nahvaljenog autora, ovo mi ipak nije vrhunac Komika, ali je svakako i više nego vredno čitanja. |
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naker
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Posted - 28/07/2021 : 08:03:09
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Težak je ovo strip za varenje i udara te ispod pojasa jer je na jedan polu sanjiv pola eksplicitni način prikazano kako rat možda i neće uspeti da uništi tvoje telo ali će ostaviti trajne posledice po tvoju psihu
Zaista za ne poverovati da su ove priče ugledale svetlost dana još sredinom '70tih, teško je i zamisliti u kolikoj meri je svojevremeno Tardi šokirao javnost sa ovim antiratnim delom |
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jogurt
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Serbia
533 Posts
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Posted - 28/02/2025 : 15:50:10
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Ne bih znao koja mi se priča više svidela.
Prva ja manje konfuznija. Može da se posmatra kao sumiranje celog života gde se uvek morao praviti kompromis i gde uvek izdajemo samog sebe. Tako se sve čini kao prevara i nešto odurno. Da bi na kraju, kada damo i život, dobili komentar da smo bili budala :D
U drugoj priči ne znam ni o čemu se radi ni koja joj je poenta ali mi je lepo legla. Ima stvari koje su mi konfuzne i koje ne razumem što u stripu što na filmu, ali ovo spada u grupu onih koje su mi svidele.
Crtež mi je fantastičan, malo me podseća na ilustracije iz Nolitovih lektira :D
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Edited by - jogurt on 28/02/2025 16:57:46 |
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/02/2025 : 17:40:57
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Pakao 4+,ovaj Tardi 3+,interesantno - meni je 5+ za prvi,1- za drugi |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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