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jogurt
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Cromwell
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 10:47:24
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quote: Originally posted by alexts Tu se slažemo - i meni je (u većini žanrova), vokal jedan od Ovo poslednje se odnosi na metalski kompleks. Ali njemu glavni problem čak i nije to što ne komunicira sa svom populacijom, nego što potpuno bezvezno, nasumično, jeftino osmišljeno (neosmišljeno), samo da je brzo, "složeno" (bučno se podrazumeva) izdrkavanje na gitarama, prodaje kao muziku.
U prošlom postu si imao hrpetinu tvrdnji koje su toliko urnebesno pogrešne da su skroz simpatične :) ali ovo ti je baš krunski dokaz da nisi nimalo upoznat sa temom. Ne kažem da bi trebao biti upućen ali ali kad već iznosiš svoje gledište onda.... Metal APSOLUTNO komunicira sa svojom publikom i upravo je zbog toga toliko žilav premda nema (a uglavnom i ne želi) podršku od glazbenog mainstreama. Dapače, vješto je izbjegava i egzistira u svom slobodnom svijetu koji je stvoren i odlično funkcionira samo zbog kreativnog žara i ljubavi prema distroziji. Ja te uvjeravam da za neke bendove za koje nikad nisi čuo tipa Darkthrone, Nile, Watain, Diocletian, Urfaust, Portal i još boktepitaj koliko drugih bi sigurno pao na guzicu da znaš koliko ploča prodaju. Merchandise pogotovo... A metalni mainstream poput Maidena. Metallice, Slayera, Rammsteina, Pantere i ostalih da ne spominjem. Prodaja nekih njihovih albuma pomete bilokakvu Taylor Swift i posere joj se na glavu svaki put kad izađe novi album a naročito repressovi klasika. I neki albumi niti nakon 30-40 godina nikako da izgube na potražnji dok će s druge strane Taylor Swift ili Jay Z ili koji već drek trenutno bio (umjetno) popularan nestat ko snijeg na suncu za par godina a potražnja za njihovim albumima će biti nepostojeća.
Zašto o tome ne znaš ništa- pa zato jer je metal uglavnom indie i nije ga briga za mainstream liste iz kojih ti vadiš zaključke a prodaja albuma i mercha te fanatična sljedba itekako dokazuju da metal komunicira sa svojom publikom. Osim toga moraš znati da u metalu nema ideologije osim SLOBODE. Pitaj 100 ljudi koji slušaju metal što je metal za njih i dobit ćeš 100 različitih odgovora jer ta ista sloboda je za svakoga nešto drugo. Davno su prošla vremena kad je metal bio pobuna protiv roditelja i subotnjeg vjeronauka a kako su odrastali začetnici tako zajedno sa njima odrastao taj žanr. U metalu ti možeš bit i nacionalist i globalist, i zeleni i kapitalist, i pijanac i trezvenjak, i seka-persa i Konan barbar. Nema tu pravila i upravo zato komunicira sa ljudima na globalnoj razini. |
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alexts
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Cromwell
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 10:55:51
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Poslednji zadatak, kao i jedan od prvih, je disco stvar za
Cromwella
Mislim da je ovo jedina pesma na topiku, koju je izvodila porno glumica, njeno ime je
Andrea True Connection - More, More, More https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73RYirgeLV4
E da, to je produkcija kakva mi paše za ovakvu mjuzu. Ritam gurnut naprijed tako da funkcionira kao mid tempo poskočica, vokal senzualan, sanjiv i nenametljiv a trumpetaši izuzetno kul i taman dovoljno naglašeni da upravljaju ljetnom ležernom atmosferom kroz cijelu stvar. Ovo je nešto što bih si pustio preko ljeta na moru uz Corta ili Mister Noa
quote: Originally posted by alexts
"Svom", ne "svojom".
Pregazilo te vrijeme, to ti je fora iz 1982  |
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Edited by - Cromwell on 03/03/2025 11:00:59 |
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alexts
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 11:06:41
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Cromwelle, ne znam šta hoćeš, svaki moj odgovor bi kod tebe stvorio želju za gomilom obimnih postova u kojoj mi objašnjavaš da nije tako.
Metal publika je najvernija - najfanatičnija. Ali to ih ne čini poznavaocima muzike, nego upravo - fanaticima. Kao religiozni fanatici, ljudi koji su nekritički posvećeni i oduševljeni, skloni obožavanju, favorizovanju, stavljanjem svojih idola iznad svega ostalog, spremni na odbranu neodbranjivog i povezivanje u glasnogovorničke grupacije.
Nema to veze sa "indie" ili "mainstream" kvalifikacijama, neka muzika je malo komercijalna, jer je šira publika teže kapira, a neka jer je bezvezna i besmislena, a čak i da se kriterijumi i standardi izvrnu naopačke i da postane najslušanija, opet je dosadna, antimuzička gnjavaža. |
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manhunter
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Cromwell
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 12:36:15
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Cromwelle, ne znam šta hoćeš, svaki moj odgovor bi kod tebe stvorio želju za gomilom obimnih postova u kojoj mi objašnjavaš da nije tako.
A što bih htio? Jel imamo mi kakav problem? Jer ja ga ne vidim. Od kud si izvukao da bih ja imao želju za nekakvim ekstraobjašnjavanjima- pojmanemam. S obzirom na vas ostale ja nisam nešto posebno aktivan dok opsežne postove općenito izbjegavam i pišem ih vrlo rijetko. No, ovdje ipak raspravljamo o glazbi i za glazbeni žanr u kojeg nisi upućen sam ti u najkraćim mogućim crtama opisao kako stvari stoje jer je ovo pravo mjesto za to. Tako da nema razloga da se osjećaš napadnut ili nešto. Napad bi bio da te izbombardiram sa par metalskih zadataka, a moraš priznati da se to se na cijelom ovom topiku dogodilo ravno nula puta. Zar ne? :) |
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Cromwell
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 12:47:14
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quote: Originally posted by jogurt
Zadatk za Cromwell-a!
Iggy Pop - Pussy Power http://youtu.be/2STYTjn-VuE?si=Vzxk1vUuK6IBOV9v
Ha! Vidi Charles Burnes na coveru! To me samo podsjeti da bi bilo vrijeme da nam Markos reprinta Crnu rupu! Nisam slušao Iggy Popa i nema pojma o njemu ali pretpostavljam da je ova stvar izuzetak. Solidan riff, zapravo nije niš posebno ali lijepo vozi. Njegov vokal mi je malo off, slično mi je to ko kad je baterija pri kraju na autićima na daljinski. Cohen i Dylan đir Nije nešto što bi me zainteresiralo za daljnje preslušavanje diskografije ali kao kuriozitet - nije loše. |
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Tonto
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Macon
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jogurt
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 16:35:36
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quote: Originally posted by Macon
Manhunter, pjesma za tebe, da li se pališ na ovo? Iron Maiden iz najboljeg razdoblja, da pređem na neka opšta mjesta. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA
Slažen se da je ova pisma opće misto kad je Iron Maiden u pitanju, ali meni nikad nije legla. Meni je ovo najlošija od 8 pisama na albumu. Invaders mi je dobra, ostalih 6 da ih sad ne nabrajan, odlične.
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jogurt
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 16:42:26
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
 
A ono, ja na ovu pesmu gledam kao dobru zajebanciju. Inace volim Iggy-ja, sto u Stooges-u sto solo (iako nisam detaljno preslusavao). Prvi put kad sam slusao album nisam ni obracao paznju na tekstove, ali pesme kao pesme su mi se svidele. Kasnije, kad sam obratio malo vise paznje, dojam se nije promenio :D
Takve stvari znaju da budu okej. Negde postoji razlika izmedju banalnih prostakluka i ovakvih pesama. Meni se na primer dosta svidjala ranije i Hvala ti za krv od Buldozera. Nisam je pustao odavno, ali vrlo moguce da ne bih promenio misljenje |
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 16:54:54
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
 
Šta bi bija YU zabavljač seoskog heavy usmjerenja? Jel to Zele Lipovača? |
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 17:14:24
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quote: Originally posted by Tonto
A pošto se triskamo klasicima onda ćemo sad u klasike, ali one u koje si najmanje zalazio, klasični rock '70-ih. Ajmo, ima da te gnjavim remek djelima cijeli tjedan...
Zula:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJrFxnvcWhc
Sve je tu ok, ako si i tom raspoloženju. Meni tu ništa ne smeta osim što ovisi što trenutno radim i kako se osjećam: potražio bih slično, ali ponekad i izbjegao. Samo ti gnjavi, siguran sam da imam dosta sadržaja koji bi ti mogao ići na živce 😂 |
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 18:15:35
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quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Tonto, evo ti devedesete na najjače.  Znam da ne voliš, ali vreme je. 
http://youtu.be/f8hT3oDDf6c?feature=shared
Ne volim, da, ali ne mislim da ne valja. Alice su kultni bend s razlogom (ne kao nirvana bez razloga ). Da budem iskren meni je ovo izvrsna glazba, ali je ne mogu slušati jer se ne osjećam dobro dok svira. Izaziva mi tjeskobu, kratko i jasno... a kad nešto uspijeva izazvati reakciju i kad je ta reakcija još pritom snažna znači da se radi o kvaliteti. 8.8/10 |
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