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tinton
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Posted - 02/03/2025 : 20:39:24
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quote: Originally posted by adriano
Eto jedna drugacija Perspektiva od onog Sto slusamo svaki dan.Cudno je da mediji uopce prenose ovakve govore.
Baš čudno. Osim što iste fraze čujemo svaki dan u medijima, pa evo i u Europskom Parlamentu, a i diljem europskih parlamenata od strane razno raznih proruskih političara (ili kao u Mađarskoj, Slovačkoj, Bugarskoj i još jednoj zemlji od strane samog državnog vrha). S druge strane, sigurno i u Dumi tako pozovu prozapadne 'eksperte' da im drže bukvice. |
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Peyo
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tinton
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/03/2025 : 21:07:48
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Čudilo bi me da netko tko prati ove teme mora otići na wikipediju da sazna tko je Jeffrey Sachs. |
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Peyo
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Posted - 02/03/2025 : 21:24:47
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Ja to svakako odavno znam iz 1000 razloga.
Ali stavio sam link da netko tko ne zna ne pomisli da je to tvoj čistač cipela. |
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henry
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/03/2025 : 21:39:10
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Evo baš sam gledao u Oksfordskom rečniku definiciju pojma "šarlatan" - to je osoba čiji se stavovi ne podudaraju sa Tintonovim. U novim izdanjima ima i slika. |
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henry
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Posted - 02/03/2025 : 21:48:50
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Inače, američko zanemarivanje i ravnodušnost prema nedaćama ruskog naroda nakon raspada SSSR-a i haosa devedesetih je Ruse učvrstilo u stavu da se zapadu ne može verovati i to je na neki način i uticalo na nastanak Putinovog režima u ovom današnjem obliku. |
Košta toliko da si ga vi, s prihodima koje imate, iz Despotije Ace Velikog teško možete priuštiti. Drž se ti svog Ace i ostavi se civiliziranog svijeta i EU, nije to za takve! |
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lwood
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Peyo
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henry
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 00:22:38
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Saks je opasno mutan lik |
Košta toliko da si ga vi, s prihodima koje imate, iz Despotije Ace Velikog teško možete priuštiti. Drž se ti svog Ace i ostavi se civiliziranog svijeta i EU, nije to za takve! |
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tinton
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 04:48:51
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quote: Originally posted by Peyo
Ja to svakako odavno znam iz 1000 razloga.
Ali stavio sam link da netko tko ne zna ne pomisli da je to tvoj čistač cipela.
Pa dobro je da to ljudi znaju, da ne bi pomislili da bih ja takvog lika zaposlio, makar kao čistača cipela. Prije bih tu poziciju, kada bih imao novaca za čistača cipela, omogućio henryju, valjda bi mu to išlo bolje od novinarstva. |
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vukozec
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wintermute
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 17:31:00
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Ne palite se ljudi. Stara oprobana bad cop (USA) - good cop (UK / EU) strategija.
Potpisace se deal koji USA hoce jer bez USA ne sme niko na "zapadu" da prdne. Cak i trolanje UK PM-a one Sky trollke da kaze da je USA nesiguran partner nije uspelo -- covek se usrao i podvio rep pred svima (alternativa je bilo politicko a bogami i zivotno samoubistvo).
A Trump je taj deal vec ugovorio sa Putinom sto je jedino sto se racuna. Kina stoji sa strane a druga neka sila ne postoji.
Takodje je veoma vazno (barem meni) da smo se dogadjajima u petak potpuno udaljili od mogucnosti nuklearnog rata.
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wintermute
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 17:33:29
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Evo kako to moj drug polu englez polu amer (zavrsio politiku na Oxfordu, prati sve zivo) u chatu meni kaze:
"Ultimately Starmer is doing damage limitation but consistent position: no peace without US backing, but UK will spend more as Trump wants and will put boots on the ground to help any peace proposal - also seems what Trump wants - along with France. Rest is noise. Starmer also talked to Trump before he said anything. Ukraine will sign mineral deal and/or economic deal they just want US to be more explicit, Vance wants to be implicit ie if we are on the ground making money that should be enough of a deterrent. I think they will sign a deal and other troops will go there. lol that China trolling saying they will be part of peacekeeping force. I’m with Trump that I would like to see Russia engaged and brought at least somewhat “back into the fold”. Culturally we are closer to Russians and Russians to us than either to China- another tragedy of this. Ukraine govt has to stop being naive too…" |
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lwood
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wintermute
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 17:37:35
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Primetiti da je UK "uzela" novac od kamate na ruske zamrznute dolare i dala ukraini da ratuje jos nekoliko dana dok se deal ne potpise (jednostavna matematika pokazuje da je 1.6 milijarda funti dovoljno za oko 3-4 dana ratovanja, ajde da kazemo nedelju dana max). UKPM je odmah rekao da to nece platiti UK taxpayeri jer bi inace i tamo bio revolt. Ovako je i vuk sit i ovce na broju. Taman dok se zelenski ne vrati u USA da potpise ono sto je trebao da potpise u petak... |
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wintermute
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 17:39:54
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
Udaljili od nuklearca? Hm.dosta naivno.
Nijedna zapadna zemlja ne sme da opali nuklearku a da to ne odobri USA. A Trump je direktno rekao da to nece uraditi i da ostavlja Ukrainu da se "sama bori".
Naravno, to je bad cop scenario, potpisace se deal za nekoliko dana.
To je moja procena, normalno moguce je da se to i nece ostvariti ali sve sto vidim zakljucujem ukazuje na to. |
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lwood
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Posted - 03/03/2025 : 18:09:37
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quote: Originally posted by wintermute
quote: Originally posted by lwood
Udaljili od nuklearca? Hm.dosta naivno.
Nijedna zapadna zemlja ne sme da opali nuklearku a da to ne odobri USA. A Trump je direktno rekao da to nece uraditi i da ostavlja Ukrainu da se "sama bori".
Naravno, to je bad cop scenario, potpisace se deal za nekoliko dana.
To je moja procena, normalno moguce je da se to i nece ostvariti ali sve sto vidim zakljucujem ukazuje na to.
Haha,ma da baš će pitat usa da in dođe do grla. Uostalom jedino francuzi i englezi imaju nuklearno oružje ako mislimo na Evropu bez Rusije. Al nisan na to ni mislija nego na to da ako ne pristane rat u Ukrajini može kad tad doć do uvlačenja i drugih država izravno u njega. A slijedom toga i do atomca. |
narocito na one koji su uspješni. |
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