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Dzimi Gitara
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 01:05:49
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Najpre, nisam želeo da potežem ovu priču u topiku ’Pogledaj obavezno’, iz razloga što se već dovoljno krivudalo oko teme tog topika. Do sada sam tri i kusur godine na ovom sajtu, mnogo sam svog vremena uložio u njega, a da ništa za uzvrat nisam tražio. Prisustvovao sam nekolicini sukoba koji mi nisu godili srcu, jer su bili izmedju ljudi čija mišljenja veoma poštujem. Nisam se mešao, jer uvek je nekako i jedna idruga strana bila u pravu, grešila, ostajala nedorečena. Sada medjutim osećam potrebu da reagujem, jer se webmaster ovog sajta grubo ogrešio o nepisana pravila dobrih medjuljudskih odnosa koja smo u većini gradili nekoliko godina zajedno, a na čelu sa njim samim. Radi se o Markosovom odgovoru na Marlowe-ov post koji je glasio:
quote: Evo, ja ne mogu jednostavnije od ovoga: I-D-I-O-T-E!
Takva reakcija je bila za mene iznenadjujuća, a potom i vrlo razočaravajuća, jer čitajući celu raspravu, stekao sam utisak da ga sagovornik nije ničim izazvao da reaguje na takav način. Način za koji bih rekao da je ispod svakog donjeg limita kulturnog saobraćanja. I nikakve paranoje oko ’drugačijeg doživljavanja’ vrlog nam webmastera od kada je i izdavač taj primitivizam ne pokrivaju. :(((
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byoman
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globinjo
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 04:39:17
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oprat ću mu uši danas kad ga vidim...
...i onda kad ne bude nas bilo,stripove će čitat' naše... DRUKALI SMO ZA AJDUKA,MLADOST ,STAROST,ŽIVOT CILI! |
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manhunter
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Markos
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 09:00:56
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I webmasteri su ljudi:-) I vec sam odgovorio na ovo pitanje na tom istom topicu. Dakle da ponovim, nisam smio tako reagirati, ali sam bio totalno isprovociran. Znao sam sto ce to za sobom povuci i da nece donijeti nista dobroga, ali morao sam mu to reci.
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makikatalinic
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 12:40:51
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Markos nije trebao reagirati na taj način jer se sve može lijepo, no kad si isprovociran...da vidite tek mene!!!!!Na sreću još nisam baš bio u takvim raspravama (osim malo s byomanom kad mi je održao bukicu , zezam se...) No ipak , nije tu ni marlowe tu skroz čist.(nemoj se molim te ljutiti, samo kažem što mislim)Često i on ulazi u rasprave , kao što je npr. bilo s seinfeldom , no dobro svi smo mi ljudi i svi griješimo...
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seinfeld
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 14:38:17
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Ljudi ovo je internet,uzivo se ovo moze rijesiti za 5 minuta dok preko neta ovo traje 100 godina.
Bilo kako bilo , stvari su sada recene pa se sad treba malo udaljiti od ekrana , nasmijesiti se i izaci napolje...
Marlowe je pametovao previse i stalno ponavljao jedno te isto pa razumijem da covijeku moze da pukne film.
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darkwoodski kralj
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 15:33:10
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quote: Originally posted by Dzimi Gitara
Najpre, nisam želeo da potežem ovu priču u topiku ’Pogledaj obavezno’, iz razloga što se već dovoljno krivudalo oko teme tog topika. Do sada sam tri i kusur godine na ovom sajtu, mnogo sam svog vremena uložio u njega, a da ništa za uzvrat nisam tražio. Prisustvovao sam nekolicini sukoba koji mi nisu godili srcu, jer su bili izmedju ljudi čija mišljenja veoma poštujem. Nisam se mešao, jer uvek je nekako i jedna idruga strana bila u pravu, grešila, ostajala nedorečena. Sada medjutim osećam potrebu da reagujem, jer se webmaster ovog sajta grubo ogrešio o nepisana pravila dobrih medjuljudskih odnosa koja smo u većini gradili nekoliko godina zajedno, a na čelu sa njim samim. Radi se o Markosovom odgovoru na Marlowe-ov post koji je glasio:
quote: Evo, ja ne mogu jednostavnije od ovoga: I-D-I-O-T-E!
Takva reakcija je bila za mene iznenadjujuća, a potom i vrlo razočaravajuća, jer čitajući celu raspravu, stekao sam utisak da ga sagovornik nije ničim izazvao da reaguje na takav način. Način za koji bih rekao da je ispod svakog donjeg limita kulturnog saobraćanja. I nikakve paranoje oko ’drugačijeg doživljavanja’ vrlog nam webmastera od kada je i izdavač taj primitivizam ne pokrivaju. :(((
Eh da si tek vidio mene u pocetku   
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Emir Pasanovic
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Porter
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 18:21:46
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3-4 godine maltretiramo Markosa i jednom covjeku puko film pa svi iznenadjeni,jest stvarno nekakav trebao je barem izdrzati 5 godina pa da vrisne za jubilejum Uglavnom svakom moze da pukne film,ne znaci da osobu koja ga je naljutila ne voli iz dna duse.
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zveles
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 18:29:33
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osim toga, ne treba zaboraviti niti da smo mi ovdje na forumu, zapravo, kod markosa "doma". tako da bi trebalo znati i kako se ponasati kad dodjes kod nekoga u goste. prozivati "domacina" je isto tako neukusno kao sto je bila i markova prezestoka reakcija. 
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makikatalinic
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Posted - 14/04/2005 : 19:09:57
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quote: Originally posted by zveles
osim toga, ne treba zaboraviti niti da smo mi ovdje na forumu, zapravo, kod markosa "doma". tako da bi trebalo znati i kako se ponasati kad dodjes kod nekoga u goste. prozivati "domacina" je isto tako neukusno kao sto je bila i markova prezestoka reakcija. 

Slažem se s tobom, a ja sam već svoje rekao...
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 15/04/2005 : 17:03:35
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Okanite se Markosa. Otidjite na jedan sugavi sajt cije ime necu da spominjem i vidjecete kako se pripadnici jedne vjere pljuju i kako se njihove svetinje ponizavaju a webmaster to cak i podrzava. I onda neko ovdje prica o toleranciji. Ovo je najtolerantniji sajt.
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Dzimi Gitara
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Posted - 15/04/2005 : 17:15:45
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Znači Sejo, ako se negde ubijaju, ovde će biti super ako se budemo 'samo' vredjali? Ne radi se o tome da Markosu ne može da pukne film (jeste, čak su i webmasteri ljudi ;), nego kad se već izletiš i uvrediš nekoga, onda se i izviniš, jer tako pokažeš da si dostojanstven i vredan dalje komunikacije(osim ako ti nije bila svesna namera da vredjaš). A koliko vidim Markosova logika je '...nisam mu to smeo reći...ali morao sam mu to reći.'  Mene je pogodilo upravo to što to od Markosa nisam očekivao. A kao što reče Sein, Marlowe je samo 'pametovao', ali pametovao bez vredjanja.
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marlowe
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Posted - 15/04/2005 : 17:45:35
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zaista nisam mislio da se vise ukljucujem u bilo sta u vezi sa onom uvredom, pre svega sto mislim da je stvar dovoljno jasna, sve tamo pise i svako moze doneti svoje zakljucke. takodje, kao sto ne uzivam da nekog vredjam, jednako ne volim ni ulogu neke zrtve. no, javljaju se neki ljudi sa strane, govoreci da sam provocirao, pametovao, ponavljao jedno te isto i slicno, sto ja mislim da nisam radio, te mislim da ni takve kvalifikacije nisu u redu. u krajnjem slucaju su proizvoljne, a cela stvar je na uvidu svima i nema potrebe da se komentarise sa strane. ja sam iz cele situacije shvatio da ima ljudi sa kojima ja tesko mogu komunicirati, koji funkcionisu drugacije i koji, jednostavno, drugacije poimaju neke osnovne stvari. jer, za mene, biti covek podrazumeva nesto sasvim drugo. a kada vec tu postoji razlika, kako se sloziti oko stvari o kojima se tamo raspravljalo...
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 15/04/2005 : 18:37:18
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quote: Originally posted by Dzimi Gitara
Znači Sejo, ako se negde ubijaju, ovde će biti super ako se budemo 'samo' vredjali? Ne radi se o tome da Markosu ne može da pukne film (jeste, čak su i webmasteri ljudi ;), nego kad se već izletiš i uvrediš nekoga, onda se i izviniš, jer tako pokažeš da si dostojanstven i vredan dalje komunikacije(osim ako ti nije bila svesna namera da vredjaš). A koliko vidim Markosova logika je '...nisam mu to smeo reći...ali morao sam mu to reći.'  Mene je pogodilo upravo to što to od Markosa nisam očekivao. A kao što reče Sein, Marlowe je samo 'pametovao', ali pametovao bez vredjanja.
Ma razumijem ja tebe, ali kada vidis sta se na drugim stranicama desava onda je to bila samo sitnica, a i Markos bi danas drugacije reagovao. Covjek cesto kaze neke stvari i poslije, kada se sve smiri, i kada razmisli o tome, onda se i sam sjeti da je to bilo pogresno. Ali, jebiga, ljudi smo...
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Markos
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Posted - 15/04/2005 : 19:08:21
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quote: Originally posted by Dzimi Gitara
Znači Sejo, ako se negde ubijaju, ovde će biti super ako se budemo 'samo' vredjali? Ne radi se o tome da Markosu ne može da pukne film (jeste, čak su i webmasteri ljudi ;), nego kad se već izletiš i uvrediš nekoga, onda se i izviniš, jer tako pokažeš da si dostojanstven i vredan dalje komunikacije(osim ako ti nije bila svesna namera da vredjaš).
Pokusavao sam komunicirati i onda sam na kraju konacno odustao, posto se pokazalo da nema smisla. Uvreda je bila svjestan odgovor na provokacije i pametovanje koje me izivciralo, jer sugovornik totalno ignorira argumente koji mu se podastiru i uporno tupi svoje.
quote: Originally posted by Dzimi Gitara A koliko vidim Markosova logika je '...nisam mu to smeo reći...ali morao sam mu to reći.' 
Nisam mu to smio reci zbog moje odgovornosti na sajtu. Ali kome sam odgovoran? Pa opet samom sebi. Dakle, biti odgovoran prema samom sebi i pojesti govno ili izbacit iz sebe sta imas pa kud puklo.
quote: Originally posted by Dzimi Gitara Mene je pogodilo upravo to što to od Markosa nisam očekivao. A kao što reče Sein, Marlowe je samo 'pametovao', ali pametovao bez vredjanja.
Ma bilo bi mi draze da me je otvoreno vrijedjao, tada bi cijela stvar bila odmah gotova, ignorirao bi ga i gotovo, nego ovako, uvijeno. Mislis da covjek zaista hoce diskutirati, da bi na kraju shvatio da te cijelo vrijeme zajebava.
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darkwoodski kralj
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Posted - 16/04/2005 : 07:21:09
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ajde boze zaboravite to, svi smo mi ljudi, svima izleti koja vise manje(pogotovo u razgovoru samnom)
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DeeCay
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Posted - 16/04/2005 : 11:22:05
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MOžda je bilo malo previše negativne vibre u zraku tih dana radi promjene vremena i tako... Kad se malo previše zapušeš treba stati, zadržati dah, nabrojati do deset i otići na fuk! To oslobađa... Poslije se preporodiš
A dje je djole djovih djana? Opet su bile neke zavade s kojim publika nije bila upoznata? 
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Posted - 21/04/2005 : 08:57:37
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quote: Originally posted by Maximuss
A vidis mene je Markosova replika bas lijepo nasmijala. Hehehe! To ti je dalmatinski temperament, jebajga!
 
dolazim u iskusenje da te lijepo nasmejem...
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igorpb
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Posted - 22/04/2005 : 10:49:26
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Mislim da ova rasprava uopste ne bi trebala da zauzima prostor na serveru. "cutnja je zlato"
I dok sjedim ovdije u hladu i kroz prozor posmatram njega kontam da je Frojd u pravu i da je Sex korijen svega.
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Posted - 23/04/2005 : 01:34:19
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quote: Originally posted by comic boy
Dobro sad kad ste se svi ispucali može li iko reči o kojem se topicu radi???
T O R C I D A
topic se zove "POGLEDAJ OBAVEZNO", inace ja sam ga pokrenuo  
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Maximuss
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Posted - 23/04/2005 : 21:48:20
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
quote: Originally posted by Maximuss
A vidis mene je Markosova replika bas lijepo nasmijala. Hehehe! To ti je dalmatinski temperament, jebajga!
 
dolazim u iskusenje da te lijepo nasmejem...
___________ "In my Havana cabana I'll eat something sweet like banana..."
Da, ali Markosa znam, a tebe ne znam, pa mislim da me ne bi nasmijao. 
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