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globinjo
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 01:43:35
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quote: Originally posted by Le Samourai
quote: Originally posted by aragon.sm
neko je spomenuo da kupci nisu debili da daju 20 evra za taj "krs" e pa ja sam debil,zezajte me dokle ocete ali ja sam vec dao 40 evra za obe knjige i nastavicu da dajem pare dalje za te "krseve". Jeste skoro sve zamerke koje ste izneli svi stoje i to je neosporno,ali da li ste vi ljudi svesni svoje nesvesti,znate li koliko je samo truda rada i znoja ulozeno u ta izdanja da bi se neko samo posrao po radu cele redakcije Veselog Cetvrtka. Evo imam jedan predlog kako da se resi roblem oko Nepostojeceg Z koje vam toliko fali,predlog je sledeci : u trecoj knjizi ce na posebnoj strani biti odstampano 100 slova Z kao mele nalepnice ko kupi 3 knjigu moci ce da kompletira prve dve,sa ovim potezom redakcija ce sve koji kukaju da skine sa grbace i da nam pokloni album doduse ne sa slicicama vec sa slovima,i tako ce da ubije 2 muve jednim udarcem :) :) odo da radim maketu smoriste me :) :)
Ja ovaj stav ne razumem. Al' shta da radim.
I niko se ne poserava po radu VC, jednostavno knjige imaju mana, i mi smo svojim parama kupili sebi pravo da to uchtivo primetimo.
potpisujem kolegu...od slova do slova... |
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goksi
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Serbia
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 01:49:39
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quote: Originally posted by Tex Willer Da konacno,postoje sve stranice,sve naslovne bez viska ili manjka,da sve to ide hronoloski kako treba...
Koje stranice fale? Naslovnica ta što nema ide u trećoj knjizi valjda.
Ček samo malo, ovo ne ide hronološki? |
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Collector
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Serbia
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 01:53:53
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quote: Originally posted by goksi
quote: Originally posted by Tex Willer Da konacno,postoje sve stranice,sve naslovne bez viska ili manjka,da sve to ide hronoloski kako treba...
Koje stranice fale? Naslovnica ta što nema ide u trećoj knjizi valjda.
Ček samo malo, ovo ne ide hronološki?
Čovek pokušava da kaže da je priprema odrađena odlično. Da sve ide hronološki sa original naslovnicama i original kao kod Italijana. A ne da bilo šta fali kako si ga ti razumeo.... |
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goksi
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Serbia
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 01:54:49
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Ah, moja greška. Zbunio me :) (jer je prvo pričao da fale naslovne, moguće zato da sam ga pogrešno shvatio) |
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Tex Willer
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Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 01:58:13
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quote: Originally posted by goksi
quote: Originally posted by Tex Willer Da konacno,postoje sve stranice,sve naslovne bez viska ili manjka,da sve to ide hronoloski kako treba...
Koje stranice fale? Naslovnica ta što nema ide u trećoj knjizi valjda.
Ček samo malo, ovo ne ide hronološki?
Odnosi se na ranija izdanja Zagora(Dnevnik,SD,Zagor Klasik Ludens),ne na ovo. A to su razlozi zbog cega sam se radovao bas ovom izdanju,jer konacno sve to ispravlja. Moje primedbe se svode samo na tehnicki deo,ne toliko z mada i to u manjoj meri,vec na razliku u visini,lose nalepljene naslovne,manji knjizni deo od hrbata i sl. Na zamisao nisam stavljao zamerke,a zamerke su verovatno vezane samo za deo posla u samoj stampariji.
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Tex Willer
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 02:01:03
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Ili ajde ovako,doziveo sam ovo kao akciju koja ide od gola do gola perfektno,a onda centarfor sa dve leve noge kome je desna ona jaca,upropasti trud svih ostalih na terenu |
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goksi
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Tex Willer
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 02:06:04
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quote: Originally posted by goksi
Aj' ne podsećaj me na fudbal. Taman sam zaboravio da Zvezda ne može nikog da pobedi
Salu na stranu,cak mi je i zao ulozenog truda nekih ljudi u VC koji su ovde sa nama,i primaju kritike zbog onih koji verovatno u zivotu nisu strip ni procitali. A Zvezda ce da razbija sve dogodine...u nizem rangu |
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srdjandj
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 03:25:27
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Meni je drago što mi se na oba primerka potpisao Ferri! A kupovaću te Zagore i dalje, kad pomislim kakve sam sve gluposti od stripova nakupovao do sada, onda ne žalim ni tih 40 evra. |
Iz Vršca stiže glas, u vinu leži spas, ko vino ne pije, taj nek se ubije!!! |
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Ferri
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 09:08:01
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Pa dobro, ima gresaka i sta sad? Valjda ce se potruditi da u sledecim knjigama ne bude gresaka....ipak su ove knjige nesto specijalno za nas fanove Zagora na podrucju Srbije..za ostale drzave ne znam...voleo bih kad bi izdrzali i odstampali SVE Zagorove epizode u tim knjigama...e to bi stvarno bilo nesto..i vredno za imati....ne zalim pare za tako nesto... |
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manhunter
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 09:26:08
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quote: Originally posted by aragon.sm
neko je spomenuo da kupci nisu debili da daju 20 evra za taj "krs" e pa ja sam debil,zezajte me dokle ocete ali ja sam vec dao 40 evra za obe knjige i nastavicu da dajem pare dalje za te "krseve". Jeste skoro sve zamerke koje ste izneli svi stoje i to je neosporno,ali da li ste vi ljudi svesni svoje nesvesti,znate li koliko je samo truda rada i znoja ulozeno u ta izdanja da bi se neko samo posrao po radu cele redakcije Veselog Cetvrtka. Evo imam jedan predlog kako da se resi roblem oko Nepostojeceg Z koje vam toliko fali,predlog je sledeci : u trecoj knjizi ce na posebnoj strani biti odstampano 100 slova Z kao mele nalepnice ko kupi 3 knjigu moci ce da kompletira prve dve,sa ovim potezom redakcija ce sve koji kukaju da skine sa grbace i da nam pokloni album doduse ne sa slicicama vec sa slovima,i tako ce da ubije 2 muve jednim udarcem :) :) odo da radim maketu smoriste me :) :)
Što si sad natrućao ovde to nije normalno...
Ali ako već tako razmišljaš: evo imam jedan polovan auto koji nikako da prodam..Ne radi mu prednji levi migavac, brisači "preskaču" malo, a zadnja leva guma je malo veća od ovih ostalih..Cena? Sitnica... |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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goksi
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Milazzo
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teller
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 09:46:54
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Posle svega toga javlja se dilema za Zagorove kolekcionarje izvan Srbije: -nabavit to, ne tako jeftino i sa greškama izdanje ili čekat neko možda kvalitetnije odrađeno sa strane nekog hrvatskog ili drugog izdavača.E, da sam gatara......UZETI ILI NE UZETI...PITANJE JE SAD? Ali ako se zna, da Zagor raztura, prije ili kasnije izdat če se sve, pa se naginjem tome, da sačekam....ali ko je predugo čekao, usra....se u gače, pa sam opet na početku. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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vope
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 11:18:01
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quote: Originally posted by Ferri
Da ima i primeraka kojima fale jedna strana koja nosi neke od naslovnica!
Jebote ti kao da si se pretplatio na falinke, ima li i jedno izdanje VC da si kupio a da nije falicno ili je to ciljan potez cetvrtkovaca da ti ubiju volju za stripom    |
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vope
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 11:20:07
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quote: Originally posted by goksi
Hmpf, ja ne kapiram što je dao 40 eura? Obe knjige su koštale 2800 din. 2800 / 84 = 33.3eura.
Dovraga!! I ja evo razmisljam o tome ciela 3 sata i nikakao da prokljuvim!! Zaboga sto li je to napisao?? |
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---dp---
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 12:56:27
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Aragonu je zao sto su svi navalili na jadni VC pa je hteo malo da ih odbrani, znam ja to, i meni je neki dan rekao da mu je zao sto je kupio i ove dve knjige, malo se izlete sa postom, ubedjen sam... Kad smo vec kod njegovog brzopletog posta i spomenutog truda ulozenog u to izdanje, vredi spomenuti drugu, jako vaznu cinjenicu: "koliko je truda ulozeno da se zaradi tih 40 eura i to svakog od nas dvestotnjak (ili mozda cak i 300) koji smo kupili to izdanje" |
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 13:00:00
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Ma Aragon je provokator i kontraš, samo pali narod ovde, a tebi se onda jada i kaže pravo mišljenje  
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I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 13:04:12
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quote: Originally posted by ---dp---
vredi spomenuti drugu, jako vaznu cinjenicu: "koliko je truda ulozeno da se zaradi tih 40 eura i to svakog od nas dvestotnjak (ili mozda cak i 300) koji smo kupili to izdanje"
Ništa ti to ne vredi, pošto(kad se radi o redovnim izdanjima VČ) "VČ ima 16000 kupaca, pa ako se nas 200 bunimo i negodujemo još uvek ostaju 15800 koji su zadovoljni".. Cena je fina, izdanje(sudeći po slikama) i nije baš tako, ali ne znam zašto se misli da se vodi hajka protiv izdavača ako ljudi kažu svoje mišljenje. Tvoje pitanje je sasvim opravdano, ali sumnjam da će biti uzeto u razmatranje.. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 13:10:43
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BTW, spisak gresaka je poveci, bez obzira sta ko pise, svakako ce deo njih zaboraviti na greske i nastaviti da kupuje to izdanje, dok ce deo njih prestati vec sad, a kamoli ukoliko se propusti ne isprave u trecem broju. Da ne govorim da bih bar ja, da sam u ulozi nekoga iz menadzmenta VC-a (ukoliko oni uopste imaju menadzment), se zabrinuo za realnu mogucnost da vrlo prisutna konkurencija i na ovim prostorima, bez obzira sto je iz Zagreba (mislim na "Libellus"), napravi svoju verziju ovakvog izdanja. Jedno je sta "Libellus" planira i da li ima precutne dogovore sa "VC" o bilo cemu (u sta cisto sumnjam, pre bih rekao da su mnogo cvrsci odnosi Slobe i "Libellusa"), a drugo sta ce tu jos biti,ali vec ovi propusti koji su napravljeni stvaraju mogucnost potencijalnog konkurenciji za delovanje. Uostalom, nije "Libellus" jedina konkurencija, svaki ozbiljan izdavac moze biti dobra konkurencija u ovakvom momentu. Nadam se da su ljudi iz VC svesni toga te da ce makar to biti ako ne odlicni, onda bar dobri ili dovoljni razlozi da se stvari drastino poboljsaju u narednoj knjizi.
E sa, ako ni Going-Going ne moze da garantuje da ce to biti bolje, sta da mislimo mi, obicni konzumenti ovih izdanja? Neka svako sam za sebe razmisli o o tome... |
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regar
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 13:12:59
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Koliko kontraverzi oko ovog izdanja. Imamo isti strip i mnogo razlicitih misljenja o njemu, sto i nije tako lose. Kao sto sam ranije rekao, meni je ok, greske su po mojim (kako kazu niskim) kriterijumima sitne i ne pada mi na pamet da osustajem od ovog izdanja.
Inace jel neko zna kada se ocekuje treca knjiga. Ovde je neko pomenuo da ce izaci jos jedna do kraja godine, pa me zanima da li je to tacno. Ako izlazi vise onda bi morao da se odreknem nekih drugih stvari, pa ne bi bilo lose da znam kakav ce biti ritam bar do nove godine |
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---dp---
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 13:46:08
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quote: Originally posted by manhunter
quote: Originally posted by ---dp---
vredi spomenuti drugu, jako vaznu cinjenicu: "koliko je truda ulozeno da se zaradi tih 40 eura i to svakog od nas dvestotnjak (ili mozda cak i 300) koji smo kupili to izdanje"
Ništa ti to ne vredi, pošto(kad se radi o redovnim izdanjima VČ) "VČ ima 16000 kupaca, pa ako se nas 200 bunimo i negodujemo još uvek ostaju 15800 koji su zadovoljni".. Cena je fina, izdanje(sudeći po slikama) i nije baš tako, ali ne znam zašto se misli da se vodi hajka protiv izdavača ako ljudi kažu svoje mišljenje. Tvoje pitanje je sasvim opravdano, ali sumnjam da će biti uzeto u razmatranje..
Da, ali ovde ih za sada ima oko 250 od kojih su mnogi ovde na forumu. |
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 13:51:22
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quote: Originally posted by regar
Koliko kontraverzi oko ovog izdanja. Imamo isti strip i mnogo razlicitih misljenja o njemu, sto i nije tako lose. Kao sto sam ranije rekao, meni je ok, greske su po mojim (kako kazu niskim) kriterijumima sitne i ne pada mi na pamet da osustajem od ovog izdanja.
Inace jel neko zna kada se ocekuje treca knjiga. Ovde je neko pomenuo da ce izaci jos jedna do kraja godine, pa me zanima da li je to tacno. Ako izlazi vise onda bi morao da se odreknem nekih drugih stvari, pa ne bi bilo lose da znam kakav ce biti ritam bar do nove godine
Neki hoce, neki nece. Ne znam, mozda budem i ja sentimentalan pa nastavim da ga kupujem bez obzira na propuste, iako kad sam sebe upitam, ne vidim neki smisao toga. Imam vec "Dnevnikove", SD i "Ludensove" Zagore, dakle, sve te epizode koje ce izaci imam vec u jednom ili vise izdanja. Da ne govorima da imam i "Bonellijeve" originale koji se po kvalitetu otiska ne mogu porediti ni sa cime i u tom pogledu se nezamenjivi. A "Bonellijeva" tutto serija se uz malo truda moze nabaviti za samo 1 euro po broju. Jasno je da u mom slucaju samo savrzeno izdanje ima smisla, jer zasto bih dao 3500 eura za nesto sto ce imati milion mana.
Jos bih to sve podneo, ali jos i da profa zaradi na meni ? |
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