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King Warrior
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 17:56:45
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quote: Originally posted by Colt
Jos jedna kritika na mestu...kako se samo VC ne ugleda na Libellus, koji recimo stavlja iskljucivo originalne naslovne strane na Texa? Ideja da Parlov radi specijalne naslovne strane za MV je odlicna, ali su nove naslovne strane Zagora, koje covek radi specijalno za VC, skrnavljenje izvornog dela? I posle se ljudi pitaju zasto je nastavak ovog kolekcionarskog izdanja u pitanju.
Da je Laurenti odradio posao kao Parlov, vjerovatno niko nista nebi negativno rekao(pojedinaca ima uvijek),jos bi aplaudirali |
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Le Samourai
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 18:32:56
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Colt
Jos jedna kritika na mestu...kako se samo VC ne ugleda na Libellus, koji recimo stavlja iskljucivo originalne naslovne strane na Texa? Ideja da Parlov radi specijalne naslovne strane za MV je odlicna, ali su nove naslovne strane Zagora, koje covek radi specijalno za VC, skrnavljenje izvornog dela? I posle se ljudi pitaju zasto je nastavak ovog kolekcionarskog izdanja u pitanju.
Da je Laurenti odradio posao kao Parlov, vjerovatno niko nista nebi negativno rekao(pojedinaca ima uvijek),jos bi aplaudirali
Da je Zagor Magichni vetar, mozhda bi to i zasluzhio. |
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profesor-inz
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 18:37:50
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Možemo do sutra da raspravljamo,ali ljudi iz Veselog četvrtka trebali su da znaju da kad već nisu bili sigurni šta hoće da se odluče za ono što je sigurno...ovako dobili smo neuspešan eksperiment i gomilu razočaranih kolekcionara... |
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 19:05:30
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E Veseli Cetvrtku da se imalo razumete u Zagora, mene bi angazovali za naslovnice Zagora u pola cene od Laurentija..garant bi bolje odradio.... |
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Ultras
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Renky
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 19:19:15
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quote: Originally posted by Ultras
Laurentijeve korice su kvalitet vise za ovu ediciju 
Slažem se...
Pod uvjetom da podigne razinu kvalitete crteža jer to što mu je Ferri nešto kao sugerira nije uopće plus... dapače.
Veći je problem što se ne pogode boje, što boje nisu skladne ni iste tamo di bi tribale biti ( na hrptu npr. ). Najveća mana je pokušaj puzzle ilustracije, to ispada poprilično retard... ako je to bila namjera. |
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter |
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Bruce Springsteen
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 19:39:43
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quote: Originally posted by Renky
quote: Originally posted by Ultras
Laurentijeve korice su kvalitet vise za ovu ediciju 
Slažem se...
Pod uvjetom da podigne razinu kvalitete crteža jer to što mu je Ferri nešto kao sugerira nije uopće plus... dapače.
Veći je problem što se ne pogode boje, što boje nisu skladne ni iste tamo di bi tribale biti ( na hrptu npr. ). Najveća mana je pokušaj puzzle ilustracije, to ispada poprilično retard... ako je to bila namjera.
Slažem se sa obojicom Nadam se, ovo što si rekao (Renky) da će na idućim brojevima biti poboljšano |
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alexts
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 22:07:30
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quote: Originally posted by Colt
Jos jedna kritika na mestu...kako se samo VC ne ugleda na Libellus, koji recimo stavlja iskljucivo originalne naslovne strane na Texa? Ideja da Parlov radi specijalne naslovne strane za MV je odlicna, ali su nove naslovne strane Zagora, koje covek radi specijalno za VC, skrnavljenje izvornog dela? I posle se ljudi pitaju zasto je nastavak ovog kolekcionarskog izdanja u pitanju.
Poređenje je neumesno, jer MV čitaju ljudi koji vole dobar strip. Samim tim znaju šta je dobra ilustracija.
S druge strane ljubitelji Zagora ne bi prepoznali dobar crtež ni da im padne na glavu. |
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Bruce Wayne
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 22:10:52
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Colt
Jos jedna kritika na mestu...kako se samo VC ne ugleda na Libellus, koji recimo stavlja iskljucivo originalne naslovne strane na Texa? Ideja da Parlov radi specijalne naslovne strane za MV je odlicna, ali su nove naslovne strane Zagora, koje covek radi specijalno za VC, skrnavljenje izvornog dela? I posle se ljudi pitaju zasto je nastavak ovog kolekcionarskog izdanja u pitanju.
Da je Laurenti odradio posao kao Parlov, vjerovatno niko nista nebi negativno rekao(pojedinaca ima uvijek),jos bi aplaudirali
Da budem iskren meni se vishe dopada Laurentijev rad na zagorovim naslovnim,nego Parlovljev na magicnom.I da sa razumemo mislim da je Goran vrstan crtac(mozda malo slabije senci ali boze moj),ali mi se cini da je laurentijev rad na Zagoru dosta bolji nego sto sam ja od njega uopste ocekivao....Reci da njegove naslovne ne valjaju i da treba stavljati original je u najmanju ruku zadrtost isve mi se cini sto rasprava na ovom topicu odmice da ce pojedinci traziti od vc i da uvede zutu traku sa strane na kojoj ce pisati Vesela Serija - Roto biblioteka!!!!!!   |
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine.
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scharf
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Renky
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 23:35:36
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quote: Originally posted by Bruce Wayne Da budem iskren meni se vishe dopada Laurentijev rad na zagorovim naslovnim,nego Parlovljev na magicnom.I da sa razumemo mislim da je Goran vrstan crtac(mozda malo slabije senci ali boze moj),ali mi se cini da je laurentijev rad na Zagoru dosta bolji nego sto sam ja od njega uopste ocekivao....Reci da njegove naslovne ne valjaju i da treba stavljati original je u najmanju ruku zadrtost isve mi se cini sto rasprava na ovom topicu odmice da ce pojedinci traziti od vc i da uvede zutu traku sa strane na kojoj ce pisati Vesela Serija - Roto biblioteka!!!!!!  
Čini ti se! Jer ne znači ako je bolje od očekivanja da je i dobro. Budimo realni, ispodprosječne su ali potez angažiranja oko tih naslovnice od strane VČ je za pohvalu. Samo, fali tu puuuuuuuno truda da bi bilo približno probavljivo.
A to za Parlova je zaista vrlo subjektivna izjava jer objektivna kaže da je njegov rad jedna od karika koje MV u izdanju Libellusa čini posebnim.
Stoga, VČ treba ustrajati da bar u nečemu bude drugačiji. Da ponudi makar malo više od reciklaže a ovo sa naslovnicam je potez u tom pravcu. Tehničku, dizajnersku i likovnu šlampavost ostavimo sad po strani. Jednostavno to je bija prevelik zalogaj. Nadam se da će treći broj biti ipak korak naprid iako me Zagor, samim tim ni ova izdanja, ne zanima.
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Renky
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 23:38:37
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quote: Originally posted by alexts S druge strane ljubitelji Zagora ne bi prepoznali dobar crtež ni da im padne na glavu.
I mi Pavela za trku imamo.   |
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter |
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PAJDO
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 23:39:06
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
quote: Originally posted by Colt
Jos jedna kritika na mestu...kako se samo VC ne ugleda na Libellus, koji recimo stavlja iskljucivo originalne naslovne strane na Texa? Ideja da Parlov radi specijalne naslovne strane za MV je odlicna, ali su nove naslovne strane Zagora, koje covek radi specijalno za VC, skrnavljenje izvornog dela? I posle se ljudi pitaju zasto je nastavak ovog kolekcionarskog izdanja u pitanju.
Poređenje je neumesno, jer MV čitaju ljudi koji vole dobar strip. Samim tim znaju šta je dobra ilustracija.
S druge strane ljubitelji Zagora ne bi prepoznali dobar crtež ni da im padne na glavu.
A ti si čudo pametan  
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Pavel01
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 00:26:16
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quote: Originally posted by Renky
... Da ponudi makar malo više od reciklaže a ovo sa naslovnicam je potez u tom pravcu. ... iako me Zagor, samim tim ni ova izdanja, ne zanima.
o boze, stvarno cu poceti neki studij da proucim relaciju fizionomija - ispoljena glupost. ovo je vec postalo prestrasno.
mene ovo izdanje zanima. tocka. drugo: nisam toliki retard da potcjenjujem bilo koji strip, pogotovo ne nesto sto cini generacije citaoca na ovim prostorima i pratilo je djetinjstvo mnogih od nas svojim bezazlenim dobrocudnim posalicama i zavrzlamama.
prvi period zagora su vecinom ferri i donatelli. tocka. i ako to ide kronoloski u luksuznom izdanju za ljude kojima je taj strip simpatican i mogu si ga priustiti onda tu nije mjesto nikakvom jebenom redizajnu, laurentiju i podjebavanju od nekolicine retarda koji umisljaju da su neki faktor i sta ti ja znam time sto su procitali par ne-bonelli albuma, vec vjerodostojnom reprintu u kvalitetnom izdanju uz koji bezazleni komentar. |
the bird is the word http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZieSsxPkMwk |
Edited by - Pavel01 on 05/01/2009 00:28:58 |
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Renky
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 00:44:08
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01 o boze, stvarno cu poceti neki studij
Počni, ne boli... jedino Bog baš tu ne pomaže..
quote: Originally posted by Pavel01 mene ovo izdanje zanima. tocka.
To je tvoj problem Točka.
quote: Originally posted by Pavel01 drugo: nisam toliki retard da potcjenjujem bilo koji strip, pogotovo ne nesto sto cini generacije citaoca na ovim prostorima i pratilo je djetinjstvo mnogih od nas svojim bezazlenim dobrocudnim posalicama i zavrzlamama.
Brojni svjedoci na ovom forumu će potvrditi baš suprotno... samo to i radiš, ako nije Bonelli u pitanju. No opet, nije to naš problem.
quote: Originally posted by Pavel01 prvi period zagora su vecinom ferri i donatelli. tocka. i ako to ide kronoloski u luksuznom izdanju za ljude kojima je taj strip simpatican i mogu si ga priustiti onda tu nije mjesto nikakvom jebenom redizajnu, laurentiju i podjebavanju od nekolicine retarda koji umisljaju da su neki faktor i sta ti ja znam time sto su procitali par ne-bonelli albuma, vec vjerodostojnom reprintu u kvalitetnom izdanju uz koji bezazleni komentar.
S obzirom da spominješ luksuzno izdanje, podrazumjevaš valjda i HC... ništa od vjerodostojnosti. Jedna priča u jednom izdanju. Opet ništa od vjerodostojnosti.
PS Ferri je odavno triba staviti točku. Točka.
PSS Baš mi je ža što te uznemiravaju komentari nebonellijevca koji se usudio taknuti "svetinju" ali proći će. Jak si ti momak i Zagor je uz tebe. |
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Pavel01
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Le Samourai
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 01:19:19
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
sta da ti kazem renki? mislim da ova recenica najbolje reagira ne tvoj odgovor: komunikacija izmedju nas dvoje je kao komunikacija izmedju pecinskog covjeka koji je prvi put ugledao konzervu (ti) i marsovca (ja). u svakom pogledu.
Hm. A koliko puta je marsovac video konzervu? |
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Tex Willer
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 01:38:49
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
nisam toliki retard da potcjenjujem bilo koji strip.
Jesi. Mislim,potcenjivao. A ako nisi retard,onda si me stavio na ignore listu pa te moj komentar i nece pogoditi |
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Tex Willer
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 01:41:08
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
o boze, stvarno cu poceti neki studij da proucim relaciju fizionomija - ispoljena glupost. ovo je vec postalo prestrasno.
Okaci svoju sliku ovde,i ja sam planirao da pocnem s nekom slicnom studijom. |
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Renky
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Le Samourai
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 03:16:51
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quote: Originally posted by Tex Willer
quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
o boze, stvarno cu poceti neki studij da proucim relaciju fizionomija - ispoljena glupost. ovo je vec postalo prestrasno.
Okaci svoju sliku ovde,i ja sam planirao da pocnem s nekom slicnom studijom.
Ako se na fizionomiji lica zaista ogleda ispoljena glupost, mislim da moje ochi nisu spremne na prizor pavelovog. A na forumu ima i maloletne dece koju bi od nekih prizora ipak bilo pozheljno zashtititi. |
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Pavel01
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Tex Willer
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 12:37:17
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
nije mi jasno zasto svaki topic o veselom cetvrtku morate zaspamati? i to uvijek isti. renki i tekuti. uopce vas ne zanima strip, tu ste izgleda samo da pljujete po izdavacu.
Ti si izdavac A ti li bese onaj pljuvac i prognozer brze propasti VC? Ja bar uzimam sva izdanja,pa mogu i da kritikujem. Ne pljujem,daleko mi BG - ne mogu da dobacim do izdavaca. A ti nisi ni vredan pljuvanja,samo dobro dodjes za zabavu. Onako,kao neki klovn. Zato te ja i vise volim od pojedinih filozofa(ne sa foruma,daleko bilo,da se neko ne prepozna )   |
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Pavel01
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Posted - 05/01/2009 : 12:37:33
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quote: Originally posted by Tex Willer
Okaci svoju sliku ovde,i ja sam planirao da pocnem s nekom slicnom studijom.
evo tekute, evo. a mogao si jednostavno pogledati u svoju kolekciju hitova ili pitati renkija koji ima i poster u prirodnoj velicini od metar i cetrdeset.
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Edited by - Pavel01 on 05/01/2009 12:39:45 |
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