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naker
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 Posted - 29/01/2021 : 19:51:46
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Al su Simpsonovi propali ako Svet duhova ide u istu rečenicu sa Murom i Špigelmanom. Nikad nisam shvatio famu oko tog stripa  |
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Paka01
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
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Posted - 30/01/2021 : 10:16:37
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Znate li za Twilight of the Superheroes? Znate, naravno, ne treba sad to opet objašnjavati u detalje. Spominjem to zato što sam nedavno naišao na jedan blog na kojem je tip okačio nekoliko slika crteža koje je naručio od raznih autora koji su na ovaj ili onaj način surađivali s Alanom Mooreom. Ti su crteži nastali prema Mooreovim opisima likova iz Twilight of the Superheroes. Svakako zanimljivo za vidjeti:
Don Simpson - obitelj Marvel
Gil Kane - Adam Strange
JH Williams & Mick Gray - Nightwing
John Totleben - Dollman
Rick Veitch - Deadman
Stephen Bissette - Congorilla
Timothy Truman - Blackhawk
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Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa |
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ridiculus
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1692 Posts
Member since 11/06/2008 |
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going going
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Serbia
11867 Posts
Member since 24/04/2012 |
Posted - 30/01/2021 : 20:21:28
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Originally posted by ridiculus
Totleben je očekivano uznemirujući. 
Da, bas sam to hteo da kazem. Uznemirujući je najprikladniji izraz. Sjajan crtac! |
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emirem
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Posted - 17/02/2021 : 00:33:43
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Dajte ako znate sta je sa ovim stripom napisite vasa saznanja, meni je ovo malo bas cudno i od autora za kojeg znamo da je cudak, ali ovoliki da ogranicava publikaciju.
Tekst je dole.
Providence Act 1 Hard Cover edition that contains Providence issues #1-4, and all the back matter, which is limited to 6,666 copies. This edition will not be reprinted, there will not be a softcover edition, and this material will not be printed again until the complete collection is available in the far distant future. |
"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!" |
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going going
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Serbia
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emirem
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Member since 18/01/2010 |
Posted - 07/05/2021 : 20:58:58
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Netko citao, comment?
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Nemo Trilogy (Slipcase Edition)
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"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!" |
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ridiculus
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1692 Posts
Member since 11/06/2008 |
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ridiculus
Senior Member
1692 Posts
Member since 11/06/2008 |
Posted - 21/11/2021 : 10:15:02
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Zanimljiva je Moore-ova odbojnost prema Marvelu, gde je on video tu kuću kao hladnu korporaciju, a DC kao prijatno mesto, puno neformalne živosti. Prema svim svedočanstvima, u stvarnosti je bilo obrnuto. Jim Shooter jeste nametnuo neka "pravila", ali ispod njega su radili urednici koji su bili definicija opuštenosti: Archie Goodwin, Louise Simonson, Larry Hama, Ann Nocenti, Millerov mentor Denny O'Neil... Sienkiewicz kaže da nikad ne bi imao slobodu u DC-ju koju je dobio u Marvelu (radio je tamo Shadow, nešto kasnije).
Marvel se na kraju zaista pretvorio u hladnu korporaciju, u smislu atmosfere na radnom mestu, ali je to bilo tokom šefovanja DeFalca, na prelazu u 90-e.
Kao što kažu u gornjem intervjuu, Moore je prvo radio za Marvel (UK), pa je utisak sigurno posledica njegovog iskustva tamo. Za dublja objašnjenja nam je potreban neki psiholog.  |
Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool. |
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Paka01
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
11446 Posts
Member since 14/02/2009 |
Posted - 21/11/2021 : 10:20:21
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Kad već spominješ Moorea u Marvelu, kakav ti je njegov Captain Britain?
Meni je bio skroz pristojan, vidi se da je to onaj rani, neizbrušeni Moore, no osjete se zametci nekih ideja koje će kasnije detaljnije razraditi u nekim svojim poznatijim naslovima. Plus je stvarno super nacrtan. |
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa |
Edited by - Paka01 on 21/11/2021 10:20:39 |
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ridiculus
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1692 Posts
Member since 11/06/2008 |
Posted - 21/11/2021 : 10:41:43
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Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool. |
Edited by - ridiculus on 21/11/2021 10:45:52 |
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ridiculus
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Shaner
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Croatia
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Member since 24/09/2012 |
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prop_ovednik
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Croatia
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Member since 13/01/2008 |
Posted - 22/04/2022 : 09:55:56
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Simpatično kako je par puta pohvalio DC ovdje, s obzirom kako je ta priča kasnije završila :)
Ili da citiramo samog majstora...
Fair enough. You have managed to successfully swindle me, and so I will never work for you again |
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PijaniPatak
stripovi.com suradnik
Germany
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Member since 20/02/2010 |
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ridiculus
Senior Member
1692 Posts
Member since 11/06/2008 |
Posted - 22/04/2022 : 21:33:09
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Thought's the slave of life, and life Time's fool. |
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fler
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Croatia
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vukozec
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4968 Posts
Member since 17/08/2013 |
Posted - 03/11/2022 : 13:35:16
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Malo recentnog gospela Ludog Šeširdžije:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/oct/07/watchmen-author-alan-moore-im-definitely-done-with-comics
https://ravnododna.com/alan-moore-krivi-filmove-o-superherojima-za-porast-fasizma/
"The longest piece by far is What We Can Know About Thunderman, which you could read as Moore’s farewell to the comics industry; more of a “good riddance” than “ae fond kiss”. In his afterword he describes that story as having “exploded like a lanced boil”, and it’s a scabrous mickey take of an industry full of crooks, perverts, weirdos and arrested adolescents."
“I’m definitely done with comics, I haven’t written one for getting on for five years. I will always love and adore the comics medium but the comics industry and all of the stuff attached to it just became unbearable.”
“Hundreds of thousands of adults [are] lining up to see characters and situations that had been created to entertain the 12-year-old boys – and it was always boys – of 50 years ago. I didn’t really think that superheroes were adult fare. I think that this was a misunderstanding born of what happened in the 1980s – to which I must put my hand up to a considerable share of the blame, though it was not intentional – when things like Watchmen were first appearing. There were an awful lot of headlines saying ‘Comics Have Grown Up’. I tend to think that, no, comics hadn’t grown up. There were a few titles that were more adult than people were used to. But the majority of comics titles were pretty much the same as they’d ever been. It wasn’t comics growing up. I think it was more comics meeting the emotional age of the audience coming the other way.”
"I thought that it had serious and worrying implications for the future if millions of adults were queueing up to see Batman movies. Because that kind of infantilisation – that urge towards simpler times, simpler realities – that can very often be a precursor to fascism.”
"Superman, the creation of working-class Jewish kids, was originally “very much a New Deal American” – but he got co-opted, just as “the early spiky, anarchic Mickey Mouse was very quickly modified into a suburbanite who wears short-sleeve shirts and has two nephews”
“When the internet first became a thing I made the decision that this doesn’t sound like anything that I need. I had a feeling that there might be another shoe to drop – and regarding this technology, as it turned out, there was an Imelda Marcos wardrobe full of shoes to drop. I felt that if society was going to morph into a massive social experiment, then it might be a good idea if there was somebody outside the petri dish.” He makes do, instead, with an internet-savvy assistant: “He can bring me pornography, cute pictures of cats and abusive messages from people.” |
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Peyo
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vukozec
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Peyo
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Member since 28/10/2005 |
Posted - 03/11/2022 : 14:05:07
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Originally posted by vukozec
Ovo je za one koji ne traže razgovor britanskog pisca za britanske novine u pdf-u "američki strip" :p
... pa makar tamo bio otvoren jedan od topica koji glase na njega.
Znači, američki stripovi su samo oni koje kreiraju Amerikanci.
A čitatelji moraju biti upućeni u nacionalnost/državljanstvo autora kako bi ih znali razvrstavati  ! |
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vukozec
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Posted - 03/11/2022 : 14:15:55
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Ma to se ja samo nadovezujem na svoje mudrovanje sa prethodne stranice.
Ali ovo jest najpopularniji topic o Mooreu, bolje da je sve na jednom mjestu. A i kad ga s vremena na vrijeme izvučemo na sunce ljudi mogu da se podsjete ili po prvi put otkriju postove bisere iz ranih dana topica, tamo negdje od 7 stranice na niže :) |
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Peyo
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Croatia
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Paka01
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izivko
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ALAN MOORE
