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RAKOSI4
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ivanl
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 00:36:24
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quote: Originally posted by RAKOSI4
Odakle ovo  Sat bi kupija
Ma prika, ko zna od kad i od kud je to...ne virujem da ćeš to moć kupit... |
Los cukar na fritulama! |
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nikotin
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nikotin
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iggyk23
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nikotin
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wolf
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iggyk23
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solar
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ivanl
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Jasko
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RAKOSI4
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 09:42:38
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Ne znam ko je ovde zakazao, ali ovo treba da glasi Trt mrt, život ili smrt
Pa zato je žena i Ivanal i bljedo gledala ,jer nije reka pravilno  |
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ivanl
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Croatia
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 10:18:41
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Inace ova vinjeta je iz Strip agentovog Forda no.79. I nije greska. Ista takva, samo drukcijeg fonta slova, na Grunfovoj majci je i u Superstrip biblioteci no.76 Potraga za sinom stranica 66, tabla 64! Znaci parola glasi; trt, mrt, smrt! I po ovome se vidi da uvazeni clan Jasko ne barata dobro svijetom ili ti ga materijom Alan Forda. |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 11:11:01
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Točno! A, to je zbog toga što povezuje čuveni parodični prijevod srpskog pjesnika Laze Kostića, Hamletove rečenice: "Biti ili ne biti, pitanje je sad!?", sa autorskim slobodama i interpretacijama Brixija i ostalih u Alanu Fordu. Obrade u Alanu Fordu su autentični humor, možda u nekim stvarima inspiriran drugim autorima, ali nikako i prepisan doslovno! "Trt mrt, život ili smrt" je rečenica Laze Kostića, a ne natpis na Grunfovoj majici iz Alana Forda. |
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Jasko
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Nicaragua
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 13:24:25
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Ne vidim zašto bi... Njegov prijevod je nenadmašan, pa ako i jest bio pobnekad proizvoljan, stoji... A što je najbitnije stoji zauvjek, a to je ona tradicija o kojoj smo razglabali 15-20 dana. Možda jednostavno nisi u tom "điru" |
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Jasko
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 13:37:47
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Vidiš zašto Briksijev prevod nije hvatski? Ako ne vidiš, objasniću ti.
I naravno da nije izmislio i naravno da prevod nema tri blage veze s italijanskim. |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 15:04:11
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Brixi nije bukvalno prevodio. On je obrađivao tekst, u duhu aktualnosti tadašnjeg trenutka. Evo, prvo mi na pamet pada scena kada, mislim Bob, pjeva "U razdjeljak te ljubim!" Kakve veze Balašević ima sa talijanskim originalom!? |
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Jasko
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 15:23:10
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Pa upravo to i pišem, stavio je u razdeljak te ljubim, a ne u potiljak te ljubim, da bi bilo samo za Grunfa.
Tako je i ovo, treba da se stavi celokupan prevod biti ili ne biti.
Otud je i ovo strip tog govora i te države, pa pogledajte koliko referenci iz te države. Zato je i Brixy bio svima jasan. To je taj alanfordovski govor, kulturni prostor jugosfere. |
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RAKOSI4
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 15:30:23
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quote: Originally posted by nikotin
quote: Originally posted by RAKOSI4
Odakle ovo  Sat bi kupija
Eno ti ga na kupindu.
Fala ti za informaciju . |
Edited by - RAKOSI4 on 26/01/2018 15:31:45 |
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ivanl
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 16:23:06
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Vidiš zašto Briksijev prevod nije hvatski? Ako ne vidiš, objasniću ti.
I naravno da nije izmislio i naravno da prevod nema tri blage veze s italijanskim.
Ajde, da sa mojim punim respektom razjasnimo neke stvari. Demokratski bi bilo u redu reci, ja mislim da, ti ne znas neke stvari o Alan Fordu kao ja, ali ja cu reci, ; ti ne baratas materijom Alan Forda kao ja. I stoga ne pricamo istu pricu. Ti bacas "spade", ja "bastone", ti okrenes u "dinare", ja vracam "kupe". Imas afinitet prema ovom izvanrednom stripu, to stoji. Ali nisi na istoj ravni, sa pravim istinskim i dugogodisnjim ljubiteljima ovog kultnog stripa. Ponovicu, ocito imas "zub" sa cpg. a i postavio sam ti pitanje,(na onom topicu gdje smo razglabali unedogled, bez prave informacije), da li si ti isti covjek koji koristi nick Alan Ford cpg? To je cak i nebitno, hej, bitno je da ne shvacas prave,(stare), dugogodisnje ljubitelje, najdrazeg nam stripa. Tu se nece nista promjeniti, i pravo ti budi u ulozi,(kakvu god imas pri cpg), da tjerate svoje. Alan Ford je do sada bio, a sad je proslo svrseno vrijeme. Dao bog za sada. Ali "bio", znas ono, nekad bio sad se spominjao, ma sta vi iz cpg radili... |
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Jasko
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 17:05:16
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Kakve to veze ima s trt mrt život ili smrt i Lazom Kostićem u stripu?
Izvlacis iz konteksta. I pravis se "Tosa". Pravo ti bilo sto ne "razumijes". Razumiju pravi poznavatelji Alan Forda. I naravno, trt, mrt, smrt isto. P.s.to sam ti vec obrazlozio. |
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Spaner
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 20:41:40
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Jesam li nesto propustio ili je stvarno zakljucak da Brixijev prijevod nije hrvatski zato sto je parafrazirao srpskog pjesnika? :) |
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