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Born To Run
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 15:59:41
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2ke ima jos ali nema 4ke. btw ako uzimas uzmi odmah prve 2 knjige. 1. knjiga je najlosija i nece ti biti dovoljna da se navuces |
Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste |
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sloppy
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 16:23:18
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quote: Originally posted by sloppy
meni je baš prva bila najbolja i onda sam izgubio zanimanje i prestao kupovat :)
Toliko ti je bila dobra?  |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 17:12:23
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quote: Originally posted by Born To Run
watchmen je na prvom mesto dosadan i pretenciozno napisan strip. Moore na svakoj stranici kao da viče "pazite kakvu genijalnu i revolucionarnu ideju imam", umesto da se potrudi da sa tom idejom uradi nesto sto ce nas zabaviti a ne samo nas opseniti svojim metaforama i pseudointelektualnim proseravanjima. Jeste ovo znacajan strip ali samo ako se gleda u nekom istorijskom konceptu, posto je promenio mnoge stvari u superherojskom zanru.
Pogrešno. Na svakoj stranici, posebno posmatrano, nema ništa "genijalno i revolucionarno" - vidimo ili obične razgovore ili scene kakve smo puno puta viđali u superherojskim ili SF stripovima (pa i krimi i gusarskim). Tek čitanjem redom i sklapanjem celine nazire se genijalnost, koju neko vidi/priznaje, neko ne. |
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Born To Run
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 17:14:33
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
quote: Originally posted by Born To Run
watchmen je na prvom mesto dosadan i pretenciozno napisan strip. Moore na svakoj stranici kao da viče "pazite kakvu genijalnu i revolucionarnu ideju imam", umesto da se potrudi da sa tom idejom uradi nesto sto ce nas zabaviti a ne samo nas opseniti svojim metaforama i pseudointelektualnim proseravanjima. Jeste ovo znacajan strip ali samo ako se gleda u nekom istorijskom konceptu, posto je promenio mnoge stvari u superherojskom zanru.
Pogrešno. Na svakoj stranici, posebno posmatrano, nema ništa "genijalno i revolucionarno" - vidimo ili obične razgovore ili scene kakve smo puno puta viđali u superherojskim ili SF stripovima (pa i krimi i gusarskim). Tek čitanjem redom i sklapanjem celine nazire se genijalnost, koju neko vidi/priznaje, neko ne.
ma jok car je go |
Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste |
Edited by - Born To Run on 26/12/2010 17:16:27 |
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sloppy
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TinK2
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 19:00:59
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quote: Originally posted by Born To Run
watchmen je na prvom mesto dosadan i pretenciozno napisan strip. Moore na svakoj stranici kao da viče "pazite kakvu genijalnu i revolucionarnu ideju imam", umesto da se potrudi da sa tom idejom uradi nesto sto ce nas zabaviti a ne samo nas opseniti svojim metaforama i pseudointelektualnim proseravanjima. Jeste ovo znacajan strip ali samo ako se gleda u nekom istorijskom konceptu, posto je promenio mnoge stvari u superherojskom zanru.
Ima stripova koji samo zabavljaju i puno previse, a malo onih koji se barem trude biti filozoficni ako u tome i nisu previse uspjesni. Onda opet, kako bi i bili uspjesni kad se bave temama kakve zaglupljena masa ne moze razumjeti, a jos i gore, ne zeli. Ako mislis da su mediji tu samo zato da zabavljaju, onda je to naprosto zalosno |
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torca
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 23:32:42
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quote: Originally posted by Born To Run
Ja sam bio uveren da watcmen mora biti najbolji strip ikada napisan sve do trenutka kad sam seo da ga citam. Zapravo nisam ga nikad procitao do kraja. Cini mi se da je to jedini strip koji nisam imao zivaca da zavrsim. mnogi misle kao i ja ali se stide da to napisu.
po meni watchmen ne da nije najbolji strip svih vremena, nego nije ni najbolji mooreov. ima nas svakakvih. ali kojom bizarnom logikom si došao do zaključka da mnogi misle kako nije vrijedan ni čitanja do kraja? |
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swamp thing
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Posted - 27/12/2010 : 03:32:47
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quote: Originally posted by torca po meni watchmen ne da nije najbolji strip svih vremena, nego nije ni najbolji mooreov. ima nas svakakvih.
Ni meni nije najbolji Mooreov, hajd' pogodite koji jeste?   |
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Vlaadisha
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swamp thing
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Paka01
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/01/2011 : 15:05:36
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Triba mi jedna preporuka, možda će zahtjev bit malo čudan, al nadan se da ćete moć pomoć.
Naime, zamolija bi vas da mi preporučite neku knjigu (ponavljan, knjigu, ne strip) u kojoj je stvarno dobro obrađena povijest Golden Age superherojskog stripa. Nije mi bitno jel se knjiga odnosi samo na DC, samo na Marvel (i njihove prethodnike, normalno) ili je općenito o superherojskom stripu 40ih godina, već mi je bitnije da je ta povijest lipo razrađena, te da ima dosta slika.
Eto, ako može nekakva pomoć, bilo bi super  |
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa |
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Mr. Bushido
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/01/2011 : 20:03:51
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quote: Originally posted by Paka01
Triba mi jedna preporuka, možda će zahtjev bit malo čudan, al nadan se da ćete moć pomoć.
Naime, zamolija bi vas da mi preporučite neku knjigu (ponavljan, knjigu, ne strip) u kojoj je stvarno dobro obrađena povijest Golden Age superherojskog stripa. Nije mi bitno jel se knjiga odnosi samo na DC, samo na Marvel (i njihove prethodnike, normalno) ili je općenito o superherojskom stripu 40ih godina, već mi je bitnije da je ta povijest lipo razrađena, te da ima dosta slika.
Eto, ako može nekakva pomoć, bilo bi super 
Koliko je meni poznato, a može biti da nisam u pravu, ne postoji jedan dobar sveobuhvatan pregled povijesti Zlatnog Doba. Međutim, ima jako puno pojedinačnih biografija i pregleda crtača, scenarista, kompanija i likova.
- Chip Kidd, Geoff Spear: Shazam!: The Golden Age of the World's Mightiest Mortal, 2010. - Paul Levitz: 75 Years Of DC Comics: The Art Of Modern Mythmaking, 2010. - Arie Kaplan: From Krakow to Krypton: Jews and Comic Books, 2008. - Blake Bell: Fire and Water: Bill Everett, The Sub-Mariner, and the Birth of Marvel Comics, 2010. - N. C. Christopher Couch: Jerry Robinson: Ambassador of Comics, 2010. - Art Spiegelman, Chip Kidd: Jack Cole and Plastic Man: Forms Stretched to Their Limits, 2001. - Michael Schumacher: Will Eisner: A Dreamer's Life in Comics, 2010. - Steven Brower: From Shadow to Light: The Life & Art of Mort Meskin, 2010. - Mark Evanier: Kirby: King of Comics, 2008. - Gerard Jones: Men of Tomorrow: Geeks, Gangsters, and the Birth of the Comic Book, 2005. - Les Daniels: Wonder Woman: The Complete History, 2004. - Les Daniels: Superman: The Complete History, 2004. - Les Daniels: Batman: The Complete History, 2004.
Može biti da sam neke zaboravio.
Znaj da se mnogi od ovih naslova ne bave isključivo Zlatnim Dobom, već daju jedan sveobuhvatan pregled određene tematike, pri čemu se neki više, a neki manje bave Zlatnim Dobom. Biografije se dosta bave Zlatnim Dobom, jer su svi ti autori svoje prve korake u mediju učinili upravo tada.
Ovi naslovi se mogu kupiti preko Amazona, neki dosta jeftino. |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
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Paka01
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Posted - 01/01/2011 : 20:09:53
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Fala ti, za neke od ovih znan već otprije i primjetija sam da ih većina zapravo obrađuje cilu povijest nekoga junaka ili neke izdavačke kuće, nažalost nema baš previše knjiga koje su ograničene na samo jedno vremensko razdoblje. Do sada mi je najviše u oko upala knjiga 75 Years of DC Comics, al bogami nije jeftina... Možda čak i padne jednoga dana, nadan se. U svakon slučaju, fala ti puno.  |
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa |
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Andrej
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Posted - 03/01/2011 : 18:29:55
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Evo ja sam se ove praznike načitao dosta toga tako da je moja preporuka sljedeće:
-Black Widow:Homecoming -Astonishing X-Men(1-4) -Essential Punisher v.1 -Batman Hush 1 i 2 -Red Sonja:She Devil with sword (1-6) -Marvel 1602 |
"War will cease when we refuse to fight" |
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Lord Vader89
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France
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Posted - 03/01/2011 : 18:31:07
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Hush je i meni bio zanimljiv
Mada, nesto mi se magli, mislim da sam citao samo keca, a dvojku nisam. Uzimao iz biblioteke, jedino su to imali, posle zaboravio da nadjem dvojku.... |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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Andrej
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Posted - 03/01/2011 : 18:40:42
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Vader89
Hush je i meni bio zanimljiv
Mada, nesto mi se magli, mislim da sam citao samo keca, a dvojku nisam. Uzimao iz biblioteke, jedino su to imali, posle zaboravio da nadjem dvojku....
Pročitao sam malo Batmanovih stripova ali ovaj mi je jako dobar. Isplati ti se ponovno uzet 1. i onda potražit i 2. dio |
"War will cease when we refuse to fight" |
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Lord Vader89
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Mr. Bushido
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Croatia
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Lord Vader89
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/01/2011 : 20:16:08
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Tisuću mi krvavih paprika.
Dakle, čini se da se bliži kraj svijeta, jerbo je najavljen reprint stripa Flex Mentallo, jednog od najboljih radova tandema Grant Morrison i Frank Quitely. Mislim da ovo nitko nije očekivao.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30168

Dakle, prvo Gottfredson, zatim Barks, sada Flex Mentallo, a najavljen je i reprint stripova Sheldona Mayera, Jacka Kirbyja i Steve Ditka. A da ne spominjem pokrenute stvari, kao što su Ostranderov Suicide Squad, Giffen/DeMatteisov JLI/JLE i Byrneov Namor, the Sub-Mariner. Doista, ovo je zlatno doba reprinta. |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 04/01/2011 : 22:13:12
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
jednog od najboljih radova tandema Grant Morrison i Frank Quitely.
tandem je stvarno za sve desetke :) ako je ovo u nivou ASS, nema greske 
mozes li da das obavijest kada se pojavi u prodaji, pliz :) |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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sloppy
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Paka01
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Posted - 06/01/2011 : 16:03:18
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Pročitah napokon svih 87 brojeva serijala JSA i mogu reć da mi je ovo priraslo u jedan od najdražih serijala koje sam ikad pročita Bilo je nekih nelogičnosti zbog nepoznavanja nekih drugih događaja i junaka, al ništa pretjerano da bi smetalo. U svakom slučaju, potpuno sam oduševljen cilim serijalom, predobro napisano, crtež u većini slučajeva odličan. Definitivno mi se najviše svidija taj mix starih i novih junaka i cili "obiteljski" osjećaj koji je prikazan kroz očinske figure u obliku Green Lanterna (Alan Scott), Flasha (Jay Garrick) i Wildcata, zatim razvoj novih superjunaka koji su još teenageri (Stargirl, Jakeem Thunder, Billy Batson), te onih malo starijih poput Dr. Mid-Nitea i Mr. Terrifica. Od ostalih zanimljivih stvari im je zapela za oko ta neka izoliranost Power Girl koja se u krupnom planu predstavlja kao jaka i neranjiva, dok je u stvarnosti vrlo usamljena i tužna osoba... Vjerojatno najzanimljiviji lik je Atom Smasher i njegovo konstantno razmišljanje kojoj strani pripada, oće li biti rame uz rame sa JSA ili protiv njih.
Odavno me nešto nije ovako oduševilo. |
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa |
Edited by - Paka01 on 06/01/2011 16:04:13 |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 06/01/2011 : 16:27:05
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quote: Originally posted by Paka01
Pročitah napokon svih 87 brojeva serijala JSA i mogu reć da mi je ovo priraslo u jedan od najdražih serijala koje sam ikad pročita Bilo je nekih nelogičnosti zbog nepoznavanja nekih drugih događaja i junaka, al ništa pretjerano da bi smetalo. U svakom slučaju, potpuno sam oduševljen cilim serijalom, predobro napisano, crtež u većini slučajeva odličan. Definitivno mi se najviše svidija taj mix starih i novih junaka i cili "obiteljski" osjećaj koji je prikazan kroz očinske figure u obliku Green Lanterna (Alan Scott), Flasha (Jay Garrick) i Wildcata, zatim razvoj novih superjunaka koji su još teenageri (Stargirl, Jakeem Thunder, Billy Batson), te onih malo starijih poput Dr. Mid-Nitea i Mr. Terrifica. Od ostalih zanimljivih stvari im je zapela za oko ta neka izoliranost Power Girl koja se u krupnom planu predstavlja kao jaka i neranjiva, dok je u stvarnosti vrlo usamljena i tužna osoba... Vjerojatno najzanimljiviji lik je Atom Smasher i njegovo konstantno razmišljanje kojoj strani pripada, oće li biti rame uz rame sa JSA ili protiv njih.
Odavno me nešto nije ovako oduševilo.
Drago mi je da ti se svidjelo. 
Hoćeš li nastaviti čitati Justice Society of America? |
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