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Poli
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Posted - 11/02/2024 : 16:02:20
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quote: Originally posted by ivanl
Rijetko sto novo bude bas svoje, inovantno i uzbudljivo. Sve je vec videno i sve je na racun neceg sto je vec bilo.
Ima tu i novih stvari koje nisu postojale prije, npr. post black (i post rock kao osnova), ali bih rekao da ti taj zanr (sa repetivnoscu i atmosferom koju time gradi) na prosto ne pase. 
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ivanl
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Posted - 11/02/2024 : 17:15:29
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
quote: Originally posted by ivanl
Rijetko sto novo bude bas svoje, inovantno i uzbudljivo. Sve je vec videno i sve je na racun neceg sto je vec bilo.
Ima tu i novih stvari koje nisu postojale prije, npr. post black (i post rock kao osnova), ali bih rekao da ti taj zanr (sa repetivnoscu i atmosferom koju time gradi) na prosto ne pase. 
Kad si se vec referirao samo na jednu recenicu onog mog posta...da ti i odgovorim, ipak.
Niposto mi ne odgovaraju prvi koje si naveo, ovi u zagradama pak, mi jako odgovaraju.
Odmah da se dotaknem Godspeed!You Black Emperor, a koji vrlo brzo dolaze u Zagreb, i za koje se nadam da me nista nece omesti u pohodu na njihov koncert, koji mi znace puno. To jest, jako mi prijaju. (Njih spominjem jer su tu 'pred vratima', aktualni), a ako si pratio moje izvjestaje s koncerata, vidjet ces koliko tih primjera ima... Swans, Crime and City Solutions, Psycho Mutants... da spomenem samo zadnje u nizu odgledane i odslusane... |
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Poli
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Posted - 11/02/2024 : 20:00:39
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Pa htio sam reci, da sigurno ima novosti (među njima ima i dobrih), a ako mozemo pod novosti staviti i sve sto se pojavilo u posljednjih 10-20 godina, onda i sve sto ide u te progresivne, atonalne i avantgardne struje sigurno je nesto sveze i dobro, pogotovo kvalitetno. Sad drugo je naravno to kako se to kome sviđa, ili ne sviđa. Slicno i sa tim metalcoreom i slicnim zanrovima ala mathcore, onda slam itd. (koji i meni iskreno ne pasu previse, ako uopste sta).
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Poli
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Cromwell
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Posted - 12/02/2024 : 13:43:59
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@lwood: ma zezam se malo jer uz par izuzetaka ne volim takve neoriginalne norsecore bendove. Samo cepaj 
@ivanl: Da, klasici će uvijek biti bezvremenski, to ne može dosaditi nikad! A Judasi i Dickinson misliš vjerojatno na nove stvari, ne albume budući da tek trebaju izaći. Znam da glazbu najviše voliš uživo ali mene više zanima kako ti onda recimo zvuči taj novi album od Saxona? Evo ja sam sad bacio uho i to je upravo ta moderna vrsta sounda koji mi se nikako ne sviđa a ima ga vjerojatno 90 posto novih albuma. Sve nekako prečisto i stisnuto a bassevi nekako umjetno preširoki. Da li ti dođe volja nekad da si radije pustiš recimo JP Nostradamusa ili Redeemer of Souls a ne Point of Entry ili Turbo a s druge strane Saxonov Thunderbolt ili Carpe diem umjesto Crusadera i Power of the Glory? |
Bok, kako si.
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ivanl
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Posted - 12/02/2024 : 16:29:10
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quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
@ivanl: Da, klasici će uvijek biti bezvremenski, to ne može dosaditi nikad! A Judasi i Dickinson misliš vjerojatno na nove stvari, ne albume budući da tek trebaju izaći. Znam da glazbu najviše voliš uživo ali mene više zanima kako ti onda recimo zvuči taj novi album od Saxona? Evo ja sam sad bacio uho i to je upravo ta moderna vrsta sounda koji mi se nikako ne sviđa a ima ga vjerojatno 90 posto novih albuma. Sve nekako prečisto i stisnuto a bassevi nekako umjetno preširoki. Da li ti dođe volja nekad da si radije pustiš recimo JP Nostradamusa ili Redeemer of Souls a ne Point of Entry ili Turbo a s druge strane Saxonov Thunderbolt ili Carpe diem umjesto Crusadera i Power of the Glory?
Touche!
Point uvijek. Turbo ponekad. Ali i Nostradamus i Redeemer imaju svijetlih i velikih trenutaka.
Kod Saxonaca je vec radikalno obrnuta situacija, niposto i nikad Carpe Diem i Thunder, naspram Krizara te Moći i Slave.
Ako pricamo samo o ovim albumima sto si ih spomenuo.
A ako mene pitas, jedan od najboljih, najljepsih i najvaznijih glazbenih albuma u Metalu, (po meni), a i inace u glazbi zadnja dva stoljeca, je svakako Screaming for Vengeance! |
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Cromwell
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Posted - 14/02/2024 : 18:22:04
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Je, da me netko pitao prije desetak godina uvijek bih rekao Painkiller, ali što sam stariji to mi se više Screaming for Vengeance penje prema toj poziciji.  Čak mi je i Turbo s godinama sve bolji. |
Bok, kako si.
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ivanl
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Posted - 14/02/2024 : 18:37:06
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quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
Je, da me netko pitao prije desetak godina uvijek bih rekao Painkiller, ali što sam stariji to mi se više Screaming for Vengeance penje prema toj poziciji.  Čak mi je i Turbo s godinama sve bolji.
Meni stari moj, ni najlosiji njihovi albumi nisu losi. Ono, kad je Francek pitao Martina: a jesi li ti ikad pio losu rakiju? Pa ce ovaj: jesam. I kakva je bila zanima Franceka... dobra! Martin ce.
Painkiller je bio udarac tadasnjoj sceni u solarni pleksus. Album tolike energije da je to i danas cudo. Nosio me je, rasturao, drobio... Judas u formi zivota! bio sam im kao klinac na Painkiller turneji (a predgrupa originalna Pantera)...to su sveti momenti za pamcenje.
No nikad mi nije bio njihov, number one.
Meni je sveto trojstvo: British Steel, Screaming i Defenders of the Faith.
No na svakom im albumu ima suhog zlata a pocesto i bisera.
Bio sam fala Bogu i na njihovoj Epitaf turneji gdje su u 2 ipo sata sa ama bas svakog studijskog albuma odsvirali bar jednu pjesmu. E to je bio dozivljaj...
Uglavnom, Judas su najvazniji HM bend ikada. A onaj tko ih je jednom vidio na koncertu, nosi to zapisano u genetskom kodu. Oni ti ustvari uzivo izmjene DNA... 😇
A Screaming album, ima najbolji grove, najbolju energiju. Neopisivo lijepe harme i twin guitar solaze. Svaki rif pazljivo je, rekao bi geometrijski izreziran. Uvodi, refreni, zavrsetci... cudo od dobrih pjesama. Halfordu je tu daleko najbolji glas uopce, a uvijek mu je dobar. Bas potmuo, drzi sve ostalo na svom mjestu, vezivno tkivo albuma. Jebe ga Holland malcice jer mu nisu dobro producirali bubanj a i ima je taj stil svirke kao da su mu ruke u gipsu, ali nebitno, cijeli dojam je 5 plus. Dobri tekstovi, cijela prica, sve na svom mjestu. Prekrasan album zanra a i daleko sire od toga. |
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Sneaksie Thiefsie
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Posted - 14/02/2024 : 20:36:43
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Ono, kad je Francek pitao Martina: a jesi li ti ikad pio losu rakiju? Pa ce ovaj: jesam. I kakva je bila zanima Franceka... dobra! Martin ce.
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Cromwell
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ivanl
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Posted - 17/02/2024 : 21:37:54
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Evo ja kao zaista pravi fan Judas Priesta, iskreni i dugogodisnji moram kazati da su Jugulator i Demolition jako neJudas albumi. Nije to to. I dok Demolition jos i moze proci sa par pjesama ili djelova pjesama, Jugulator je bas prava 'skovaca' od albuma. Stoput probao, stoput los... A od Judas turneja bio sam na Painkiller tour, World Epitaph tour, Reedemer of Soul i Firepower tour dvaput. Nije puno no ni malo. A iskreno, sad mi je zao sto ih nisam gledao barem deset puta, koliko sam recimo Maidene, a duplo su mi losiji od Judasa. Tako se nekako jednostavno namjestilo... |
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fler
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Posted - 22/02/2024 : 10:20:15
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Lol, nakon onog intervjua prije tjedan-dva nije mi jasno kako se ovo moglo dogoditi. Ok, treba platiti račune i sve to ali ipak...
@Sneaksie Thiefsie: ajde lakše malo s nebitnim AI glupostima, stavljaj to radije u svaštaru. |
Bok, kako si.
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Posted - 22/02/2024 : 14:51:02
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Nemojte se svađati, metalci bi po statistikama trebali biti još miroljubiviji od pankera 
@Cromwell
Tko bi ga znao, Kingu očito nije ništa za vjerovati. Ajd da vidimo što će iz ovoga ispasti. |
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Posted - 22/02/2024 : 15:10:12
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Ma to je obična laž, samo hate&blood&warfare!
 Ma ja sam skroz chill, samo mi je previše tog AI-ja gdje god se okrenem zadnjih dana. Pojest će nam to i posao i dušu! A čovjek je moj komentar očito osobno shvatio jbg.
Samo da nam Slejeri ne naprave novi album! Mislim može ako bude dobar... ...ali nebude. |
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ivanl
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Posted - 22/02/2024 : 16:04:54
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quote: Originally posted by fler
Nemojte se svađati, metalci bi po statistikama trebali biti još miroljubiviji od pankera 
@Cromwell
Tko bi ga znao, Kingu očito nije ništa za vjerovati. Ajd da vidimo što će iz ovoga ispasti.
A-aa. Kako 'Dane'... Isto kao ljubitelji i stovatelji stripova na mjestu gdje se pise i diskutira o, (jel te), stripovima... |
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ivanl
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Posted - 22/02/2024 : 16:11:47
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quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
Lol, nakon onog intervjua prije tjedan-dva nije mi jasno kako se ovo moglo dogoditi. Ok, treba platiti račune i sve to ali ipak...
Je. Tocno. Mislio sam da ce mi hodocascenje na njihov koncert biti nesto posebno vec samo i zbog toga sto vise nece nikada svirati. (Nesto kao kad sam gledao oriđiđi Panteru, s oboje pokojne brace) Ali eto, sam si kazao... bit ce treba poplacati racune. (Bez obzira koje i zasto)
Ali kao sto je gore kolega kazao... jebemu misa, i ja bi rado jos jednom svjedocio njihovom showu.
Poslije Motorheada, jedini koncert gdje mi je zujilo u glavi sve do sutra. (Kao ono nekada kad bi tavrsio TV program pa bi bila ona crta sa dziiiiiii zvukom...) |
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 07/03/2024 : 09:47:26
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quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
Ma to je obična laž, samo hate&blood&warfare!
 Ma ja sam skroz chill, samo mi je previše tog AI-ja gdje god se okrenem zadnjih dana. Pojest će nam to i posao i dušu! A čovjek je moj komentar očito osobno shvatio jbg.
Samo da nam Slejeri ne naprave novi album! Mislim može ako bude dobar... ...ali nebude.
Ako Slayer d.d. napravi novi dobar album to bi bilo taman na tridesetu godišnjicu od zadnjeg dobrog albuma. Inače, meni je nakon službenog raspada odma bilo jasno da ćemo dobit baren 200-300 koncerata od kojih će svaki bit zadnji, oproštajni, i najekskluzivniji. Kerry i Tom su već odavno najobičniju poslovni ljudi. Jeff i Dave su bili 80% Slayera.
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Doli sve stranke!!! Živili naši dušmani!!! |
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