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Renky
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 01:40:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nije
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter
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jaki
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 07:17:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Daredevil u c/b?
Ja sam fetišist papira!
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dcopic
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 07:49:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit dcopic's Homepage  Send dcopic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stvarno zanimljivi naslovi!
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feka82
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 09:08:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send feka82 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jesu
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Markos
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 10:04:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jaki

Daredevil u c/b?

Obje verzije, ako fajlovi budu dopuštali.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 11:29:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
U vezi Daredevila, je li ovdje riječ o ova dva omnibusa?

http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Frank-Miller-Janson-Omnibus/dp/0785126694/ref=pd_sim_b_1
http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Frank-Miller-Omnibus-Companion/dp/0785126767/ref=sr_1_69?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270113035&sr=1-69

Pitam to jer Visionaries trejdovi nisu kompletni, čak ni uz ova pojedina izdanja Born Again i Man Without Fear. Dok ovi omnibusi praktički reprintaju sve vezano za Daredevila što je radio Frank Miller, što uključuje sadržaje Visionaries trejdova, Born Again, Man Without Fear, plus još Daredevil br. 219, Daredevil: Love and War i Spectacular Spider-Man br. 27-28.
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Markos
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 11:41:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ići će Love and War, da, ali Spider-Man nema smisla, jer nije cijela priča.
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Aco
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 11:46:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Aco's Homepage  Send Aco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Daredevil u c/b?

Obje verzije, ako fajlovi budu dopuštali.


Meni jedan c/b,molim a Love and war naravno u boji;-))
U kakvom obliku će ovo izlaziti, na koliko strana?

Koliko ima Criminala od Brubakera?TO će predpostavljam ići kao i kod Amerikanaca..A Captain America je predviđam nešto kraći?
Odlične najave u svakom slučaju.
Bond.James Bond.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 11:51:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Markos

Ići će Love and War, da, ali Spider-Man nema smisla, jer nije cijela priča.

Istina, to je priča u četiri dijela. Prva dva je crtao Jim Mooney, a druga dva Frank Miller.

Također, ako Algoritam planira izdati Elektra: Assassin, znači li to da će izdati i Elektra Lives Again?
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Mord
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 12:06:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Daredevil u c/b?

Obje verzije, ako fajlovi budu dopuštali.


Cek izdaces daredevila cijelog u boji , pa onda crno bijelo?
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Markos
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 12:14:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aco

quote:
Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Daredevil u c/b?

Obje verzije, ako fajlovi budu dopuštali.


Meni jedan c/b,molim a Love and war naravno u boji;-))
U kakvom obliku će ovo izlaziti, na koliko strana?

Koliko ima Criminala od Brubakera?TO će predpostavljam ići kao i kod Amerikanaca..A Captain America je predviđam nešto kraći?
Odlične najave u svakom slučaju.

Jos je rano govoriti o broju strana, trebam vidjeti kako će se to rasporediti. Criminal će ići kao i originalni trejdovi. Peti je trenutno u pripremi u Americi.
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Markos
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 12:15:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

quote:
Originally posted by Markos

Ići će Love and War, da, ali Spider-Man nema smisla, jer nije cijela priča.

Istina, to je priča u četiri dijela. Prva dva je crtao Jim Mooney, a druga dva Frank Miller.

Također, ako Algoritam planira izdati Elektra: Assassin, znači li to da će izdati i Elektra Lives Again?

A valjda.
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Markos
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 12:16:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mord

quote:
Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Daredevil u c/b?

Obje verzije, ako fajlovi budu dopuštali.


Cek izdaces daredevila cijelog u boji , pa onda crno bijelo?

pa paralelno, ako bude moguće.
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flamboyant soul
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 15:33:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send flamboyant soul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fibra goes mainstream... Hah, znači istina je da svatko ima točku slamanja :)
Dobro i šta mi sada treba da uradimo?
Edited by - flamboyant soul on 01/04/2010 15:37:01
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alexts
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 15:59:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne bih rekao da je taj daredevil više mainstream od kena parkera.

Ja ću se najverovatnije odlučiti za verziju u koloru, s obzirom da imam sve Eksove sa DD epizodama u cb. One spadaju među strripove koje sam u životu čitaoi najviše puta.

Kad sam već kod epizoda iz Eks Almanaha, koji je to deo Milerovog opusa ne Derdevilu? Da li neko zna da li to sve ulazi u ove trejdove i u kom procentu, tj ima li 100% premijernog materijala i koliko?
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jaki
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 16:48:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
u eksu su bile preskočene dvije epizode a uz to su i one objavljene epizode ispremješali.Ima jedna kratka priča o Elektri u c/b iz Bizzare Adventures koja je bila uključena u tpb Elektra Saga ali ne znam za ove visionares?Takodjer ima jedna Miller/Elektra sveščica iz serije What if?
Born Again nije objavljen u nas(Mazzuchelli-Miller) i Love and War a ni Algoritmova Elektra Assassin.A nisu ni završne epizode Daredevila koje je crtao Janson po postavki Millera.
Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 16:52:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by flamboyant soul

Fibra goes mainstream... Hah, znači istina je da svatko ima točku slamanja :)

Pa, moto kuće je "Samo dobri stripovi." U to ulazi štošta.

Ali ima alexts pravo, daleko od toga da je Millerov Daredevil prvi mainstream strip koji je Fibra izdala (ili će izdati), štogod se podrazumijevalo pod tim "mainstream".
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 16:54:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts

Ne bih rekao da je taj daredevil više mainstream od kena parkera.

Ja ću se najverovatnije odlučiti za verziju u koloru, s obzirom da imam sve Eksove sa DD epizodama u cb. One spadaju među strripove koje sam u životu čitaoi najviše puta.

Kad sam već kod epizoda iz Eks Almanaha, koji je to deo Milerovog opusa ne Derdevilu? Da li neko zna da li to sve ulazi u ove trejdove i u kom procentu, tj ima li 100% premijernog materijala i koliko?
Zavisi sta podrazumevas pod Millerovim opusom, posto je on bio i scenarista i crtac, ali ne uvek i jedno i drugo. Mislim da je u Eksu objavljeno ovo (broj originala/naslov originala/broj Eksa):

169 Devils - 388
170 The Kingpin must die! - 417
171 In the Kingpin's clutches- neobjavljeno
172 Gangwar! - 411
173 Lady killer - neobjavljeno
174 The assassination of Matt murdock! - 389
175 Gantlet - 390
176 Hunters - 391
177 Where angels fear to tread - 401
178 Paper chase - 399
179 Spiked! - 403
180 The damned - 440
181 Last hand - 446 i 447
182 She's alive - 430
183 Child's play - 437
184 Good guys wear red - 438
185 Guts - 449

Koliko me secanje sluzi, nikad nije reprintovan #168, gde i pocinje cela prica o Elektri. Prilicno bizarno ako je tako, ali ne bi bio prvi put. A pogledaj tek haotican raspored epizoda...

Osim ovoga, kao scenarista i koscenarista Miller je radio i:

#165 - 'Arms of the Octopus'
#166 - 'Till Death Do Us Part!'

#186 - 'Stilts'
#187 - 'Overkill'
#188 - 'Widow's Bite'
#189 - 'Siege'
#190 - 'Resurrection'
#191 - 'Roulette'

#219 - 'Badlands'

#226 - 'Warriors'

#227 - 'Apocalypse'
#228 - 'Purgatory'
#229 - 'Pariah!'
#230 - 'Born Again'
#231 - 'Saved'
#232 - 'God And Country'
#233 - 'Armageddon'

Ovaj poslednji run je fantastican Born Again, sa Mazzucchellijem.

Ali pre nego sto je poceo da pise, Miller je radio olovku za:

#158 - 'A Grave Mistake!'
#159 - 'Marked for Murder!'
#160 - 'In the Hands of Bullseye'
#161 - 'To Dare the Devil!'
#163 - 'Blind Alley'
#164 - 'Expose'
#165 - 'Arms of the Octopus'
#166 - 'Till Death Do Us Part!'
#167 - '...The Mauler!'
i posle za
#191 - 'Roulette'

Sem prvog, spiskovi nisu moji.
moji crteži
Edited by - Vlaadisha on 01/04/2010 16:57:34
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Renky
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 16:55:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts
Ja ću se najverovatnije odlučiti za verziju u koloru, s obzirom da imam sve Eksove sa DD epizodama u cb. One spadaju među strripove koje sam u životu čitaoi najviše puta.


Ben ti! Isto san promislija!

Pitan nekidan Marka jel' to DD iz Eksa i razmišljam kako bi bilo možda zgodno uzeti bojanu verziju jerbo nisan toliki fan da iman obje a c/b iman u Eksu, bez obzira na papir i malo izmućkanosti.

S tim da meni ne spadaju te epizode u toliko omiljene da san ih čita tristo puta, dapače malo su mi i crtački nezgrapne. I onda i danas s razlikom da danas znam da je to Millerov stil a onda san mislija da su početničke boljke.
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter
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flamboyant soul
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 19:11:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send flamboyant soul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts

Ne bih rekao da je taj daredevil više mainstream od kena parkera.

Vidiš, ja bih. Uostalom, za mene je mainstream je sve što nije u stilu Johnny the Homicidal Maniac. :)

P.S. Za'ebavan se, i sad i prije.
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marlowe
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 19:24:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit marlowe's Homepage  Send marlowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I Nebojša i KParker su čisti mejnstrim, koji su u potpuno mejnstrim masovnoj kiosk varijanti izlazili kod nas pre 30 godina u EKS-u i Lunov magnus stripu.
I u inostranstvu su svuda i uvek izlazili u mejnstrim kiosk masovnim sveskama za sve uzraste.
Derdevil je super.
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The gunpowder, treason and plot,
I see of no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.
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Renky
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:20:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A Nebojša? Kakav je on?
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:34:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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A Nebojša? Kakav je on?
Jos bolji, zato sto nije u boji.
moji crteži
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Renky
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:42:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zar nije reka Marko da će DD ići i crno-bila verzija
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:55:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Obi-wan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Daredevil u c/b?

Obje verzije, ako fajlovi budu dopuštali.

Nadam se da će to moći jer me baš zanima koja će se verzija bolje prodavati.
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine.
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