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Poli
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 00:40:11
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Band of Brothers - genijalno!! (Preporuke i za film When Trumpets Fade svima kojima se svidjela ova serija, isto rad HBO-a) Pacific i Rome jos nisam stigao pogledati... |
Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
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cat claw
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 06:56:16
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quote: [i]Originally posted by Beren
I nebi bilo loše da se jedna serija ocjenjuje makar 2 dana .
Sve je OK. Ipak je ovo opustena pricaonica. |
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rommel
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 08:44:15
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quote: Originally posted by cat claw
Gledao sam Klavdija i kao klinac, i pre dve tri godine. Serija jeste sjajna, ali je ipak pregazilo vreme. Ono sto je onda bilo sokantno (incest itd) danas nikog ne uzbudjuje. Rome nad Klaudijem ipak ima prednost snimanja eksterijera, brzzu radnju i sl, jednom recju savremenija je. Ako cemo pravo, nije za poredjenje. I jedna i druga serija imaju minuse i pluseve u odnosu jedna naspram druge, ali je vremenski jaz prevelik. Cak i male distance onemogucavaju poredjenja. Recimo sjajne serije poput Usamljene golubice i Dedvuda.
da nema eksterijere (minimalno) ali zato ima toliko glumačkih bravura koje su teško dostižne rimu...ne bi rekao da ga je pregazilo vrijeme - to što su neki prikazi onda bili zapanjujuće otvoreni dok bi ih danas proglasili maltene diskretnima - zar je to minus...mora li se rakopati nekome utroba da bi se pokazao masakr?...može se reći da je ona išla do krajnjih granica onog što joj je tada bilo dopušteno ali to nije njena primarna i osnovna vrlina - nju čine izvanredne role...od klaudija, livije, tiberija, augusta - to su glumci koji su se pamtili i desetljećima poslje - Rimu u svoj njegovoj brzini - teško da sam stigao upamtiti i jedan upečatljivi lik - a osim toga daleko je bolje prikazala ono što i rome pretendira - sliku života u carskom rimu - pqa makar na osnovi vješto iskonstruirane fikcije
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dosada
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 09:00:39
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quote: Originally posted by rommel Rimu u svoj njegovoj brzini - teško da sam stigao upamtiti i jedan upečatljivi lik - a osim toga daleko je bolje prikazala ono što i rome pretendira - sliku života u carskom rimu - pqa makar na osnovi vješto iskonstruirane fikcije
ovo je točno, i tu serija "Rim" pada. To jednostavno šuplja serija koja se jedino može podicit scenografijom, ali u današnje vrijeme to imaju sve serije i tu se "Rim" ne izdvaja nicim posebnim. Ali se zato odvaja lošom pričom, glumom, scenarijem (dijalozima) montažnim rješenjima kao i sveukupnom režijom ....... 2/4 u vrh glave! |
razmjena filmova za stripove! http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45640
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Renky
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 10:11:06
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quote: Originally posted by Poli (Preporuke i za film When Trumpets Fade
Simpa, nije remek djelo ali žalosno da je proša relativno nezapaženo. Preporučljivo! |
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter |
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 11:15:47
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Kad smo vec kod serija sa povjesnom tematikom, zanima me sto mislite o ovoj The Tudors
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“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde |
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Poli
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 11:21:09
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quote: Originally posted by Renky
quote: Originally posted by Poli (Preporuke i za film When Trumpets Fade
Simpa, nije remek djelo ali žalosno da je proša relativno nezapaženo. Preporučljivo!
Nije napravljen za mase, ali po meni ga krasi velika doza realizma, bas kao i pomenutu seriju BoB. Da nam je samo vise takvih filmova (i serija) umjesto blockbustera.
Eto, vec 2 preporuke.  |
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Mord
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Croatia
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Posted - 25/04/2010 : 23:47:51
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Rome - ubiboze dosadna serija. Dan danas mi nije jasno sto me natjeralo da je odgledam do kraja. Od prve do zadnje epizode klinicki mrtva radnja. A ne bi se proglasio bas nekim action freakom. Neki glumci mi jesu bili dragi, ali mi se cini da je trebalo malo poraditi na dramatici same serije. |
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rommel
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Posted - 26/04/2010 : 09:09:20
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quote: Originally posted by Gand
quote: Originally posted by rommel
quote: Originally posted by cat claw
Gledao sam Klavdija i kao klinac, i pre dve tri godine. Serija jeste sjajna, ali je ipak pregazilo vreme. Ono sto je onda bilo sokantno (incest itd) danas nikog ne uzbudjuje. Rome nad Klaudijem ipak ima prednost snimanja eksterijera, brzzu radnju i sl, jednom recju savremenija je. Ako cemo pravo, nije za poredjenje. I jedna i druga serija imaju minuse i pluseve u odnosu jedna naspram druge, ali je vremenski jaz prevelik. Cak i male distance onemogucavaju poredjenja. Recimo sjajne serije poput Usamljene golubice i Dedvuda.
da nema eksterijere (minimalno) ali zato ima toliko glumačkih bravura koje su teško dostižne rimu...ne bi rekao da ga je pregazilo vrijeme - to što su neki prikazi onda bili zapanjujuće otvoreni dok bi ih danas proglasili maltene diskretnima - zar je to minus...mora li se rakopati nekome utroba da bi se pokazao masakr?...može se reći da je ona išla do krajnjih granica onog što joj je tada bilo dopušteno ali to nije njena primarna i osnovna vrlina - nju čine izvanredne role...od klaudija, livije, tiberija, augusta - to su glumci koji su se pamtili i desetljećima poslje - Rimu u svoj njegovoj brzini - teško da sam stigao upamtiti i jedan upečatljivi lik - a osim toga daleko je bolje prikazala ono što i rome pretendira - sliku života u carskom rimu - pqa makar na osnovi vješto iskonstruirane fikcije
Razlog tomu je i dobrim djelom taj sto se danas serijali stancaju kao na traci, dok su serije poput Klaudija, Soguna, Hill Street Bluesa ili MASHa bljesnule i donijele sasvim drugaciji pristup razmisljanju o serijama. To da je Rim inferioran Klaudiju u glumackoj izvedbi ne da ne stoji, nego je bizrno netocno i lezi samo na osobnoj sklonosti ka nekom filmskom periodu. Tvoju zaljubljenost u proslost je predivna, al cesto nema uporiste u realnome. Jednako ja svoju majku ne mogu uvjeriti u to da je Liz Taylor losa glumica pateticne zanesenosti nedostojne cak i kazalista, jer njezino razmisljanje o glumi je ostalo u tom periodu. Jebi ga, ti ma koliko progresivno gutao filmove, ne promisljas o povjesnim kontekstima u kojima nastaju. Svako vrijeme nosi svoje, gledaj na to kao na sport. Ne mozes reci tko je najbojli nogometas ikad, kad se samo obujam i tezina lopte, kao i izrada i aerodinamika dresova i kopacki u zadnjih 50 godina enormno promjenila. O kkvoci terena da ne govorimo. Trebalo bi postaviti Pelea na danasnje terene, i Messiju dati da dribla loptom koja se veze sa spigetom, da bi dobio nekakav omjer. Jednako je s uvjetima u kojima su se ondasnji i danasnji glumci razvili u glumce, budzetima, redateljskom pristupu, vanjskim utjecajiama na film, u milijunu stvari... Samo tako usporediti dvije stvari izmedju kojih stoji veliki vremenski period jednostavno vidim kao iskljucivost.

daj peleu mladost i stavi ga u bilo koji period i bio bi genijalan...možda i bolji od mesija...nisam rekao da nema genijalaca i danas - o tome nisam pričao uopće - ali o bizarnosti i netočnosti mojih tvrdnji mogli bi pričati no možda tek kad (ponovno?) pogledaš klaudija...hvala
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rommel
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rommel
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Posted - 26/04/2010 : 11:22:27
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quote: Originally posted by Gand
Rommel ti si moj osobni neosporni autoritet kad je rijec o poznavanju filma, tu nikad nisam dvojio, usprkos tomu sto tebi skronost ne dozvoljava to sagledati na taj nacin, no uniziti serijal kao sto je Rome dovodi u pitanje nisi li negdje cca '80-te podvukao crtu i prestao dozivljavati filmove kao sto si to cinio u mladosti?
U Romeu nema lose uloge, nema loseg zapleta, dramaturski je slozen ko picino oko, odradjen je na svim nivoima do jaja, ocjena 10/10 ne ide mu jedino sto serijal nije zavrsen (sto zbog famoznog pozara u hollywoodskim hangarima, sto zbog producenata debila), ali 6/10 je nerealno da jebe rak raka.
Glede stare, omiljeni joj je glumac Raf Vallone, mislim da bi ste se imali o cemu porpicati.

nisam imam ja i kasnijih favorita a što se rakova tiče - pa moraju i oni opstati... |
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Billy_the_Kid
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 27/04/2010 : 20:36:10
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quote: Originally posted by Billy_the_Kid
moze sad neka druga serija?
Kad smo vec kod serija sa povjesnom tematikom, zanima me sto mislite o ovoj
The Tudors
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rommel
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Posted - 27/04/2010 : 20:41:04
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quote: Originally posted by Gand
quote: Originally posted by Billy_the_Kid
moze sad neka druga serija?
Strpi se neka Bane nadje Deadwood iz '47. da ne naljuti Rommela.

nemora deadwood može gunsmoke a ti gande odi gonjaj kad je to nastalo |
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dosada
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cat claw
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okiboki
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Grujah.
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cat claw
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sawitch
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Posted - 28/04/2010 : 07:10:36
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Ni ja nisam gledao... Valjda je poenta da se ubaci neka serija tipa Lost, Deadwood, Sopranos, Heroes, Smallville itd sto su gledale siroke narodne mase..  |
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jang
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Posted - 28/04/2010 : 07:59:31
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nisam ni ja gledao :)
ali sam juče na praznik OF završio sa prvom sezonom ovog novog Spartaka ( ide dalje?)... ako ništa drugo isplati se pogledat da čovek vidi kakve sise Xena ima :)...priznajte da ste se svi pitali šta se nalazi tamo ispod oklepa u toj seriji ;) |
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