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solar
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Posted - 08/12/2013 : 18:05:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Analiza američkog tržišta kroz godine:
http://www.comichron.com/yearlycomicssales.html
http://www.icv2.com/articles/markets/26202.html

digitalna prodaja:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/10/comixology-shares-results-from-reader-survey/
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/07/drm-free-comics-download-image/

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Posted - 11/12/2013 : 14:38:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Prvi broj Čiko kolor-reprinta je prodan u 8.100 a br.2 u 6.500 primjeraka.

Ostali reprinti istog izdavača:
Mali Rendžer: 2.500/2.600
Mister No: 2.300/2.400
Veliki Blek: 2.000/2.100

http://www.giannibono.com/2013/12/02/altri-quattro-conti/

quote:
01-Apr-2012
aggiornamenti ufficiali dati da Marcheselli sull’ Annuario 2012 di Fumo di China:

“Tex è sempre il leader con circa 215000 copie di venduto dell’ inedito, poi Dylan dog con 140000, seguiti da tutti gli altri con vendite che vanno dalle 45000 di Nathan Never alle 23000 di Brendon.
Il Color Tex n. 1 "E Venne il Giorno" ha venduto circa 130000 copie.
Zagor Collezione Storica a Colori n.1 ha venduto circa 150000 copie"

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jaki
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Posted - 11/12/2013 : 15:56:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jebate,pa prodaju se skoro više u nas(blek,miki).
Za bleka:
We know that many do not appreciate the stories of Slavic production, many are happy to collect unreleased material.
Čiko kolor sa figuricom Zagora za 7.90 eura.
ovo bi se moglo čak i kupiti.

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Posted - 11/12/2013 : 16:40:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mije ni u Italiji sve najno s kioscima i očuvanosti stripova na njima:
FIRST REACTIONS
Despite the sad coincidence that marked the arrival in newsstands Little Ranger in connection with the death of Francesco Gamba, the responses so far are positive. On the net directly on this blog or by telephone calls to the office, these days the readers fill us with their compliments and encouragement motivate us to do more and more. I honestly did not expect much enthusiasm and we are very pleased that our teamwork (and our readers) have hit the mark.


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Again, I regret not being able to share these moments with Francis, but I can not fail in my role as a publisher, here I am to answer your many comments. First of all, thank you for the compliments, it is in these situations that our profession makes up for a lot of sacrifices. At the same time I would like to say a few words about the distribution, of which several of you have (rightly) complained.

As you well know in Italy kiosks are 34,000 and then it is clear that by printing 15,000 copies (more would be suicidal these days for a publication "vintage"), provided that each of them receives a newsstand, it would remain uncovered 19,000. But the reality is even more complex, as the distributors deliver an average of two copies per kiosk, thus leaving discoveries about 26,500! Therefore it is very likely that your newsagent has not received the first issue of The Little Ranger . What to do? At this point you have two options.

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You can order directly from us, no. 1 and at the same time tell your newsagent confidence to apply for the supply distributor: it is a bi-monthly, the time is there, and n. 2'll find it for sure.

However, if you go looking for your copy and find another kiosk, there always purchased subsequent copies, because you are sure to find them. Otherwise, if you buy the no. 1 in a kiosk and subsequent to another, the first kiosk will receive copies of future issues that may never sell, and if so, for a few months, the distributor would deliver publications that remain unsold. But it gets worse: if you ask for from your newsagent Il Piccolo Ranger or another then you will not buy from him, the newsagent will lose credibility with the distributor that will block the service.

Another important point: Press-in, our national distributor for the contract can not intervene directly on the kiosks, which are the responsibility of the local distributor. It is therefore the newsagent must request that the supply to the local distributor. Obviously we and we act because of Press-all requests are to be successful, but you always give us the details of your kiosk - where you buy really our publications - and tell the newsagent to ask for the service to the local distributor. You will see that it definitely will improve the situation.

We realize that it is all a bit 'complicated, but you have to understand the fact that many professionals are involved, and that each must do his accounts. For this reason we ask you to help us all work in the best way!

We regret that in some areas - such as the Marche or part of Puglia - the publication has arrived late, but also considering the adverse weather conditions, that there are some favorite ...

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About the conditions under which publications they arrive on newsstands, it is a bad culture that we hope will be sooner or later ... "cured"! Some of you have complained that sometimes even the stickers are affixed to the books from the newsagents. Unfortunately in many cases are necessary because the editor calls the head in a way and the necklace in another. To understand, the publisher records in court "Necklace Beautiful Adventures" and this title makes an agreement with the distributor and the publication with this name comes all'edicolante. But in fact the head is "Red Bear". The newsagent do not understand anything, and a first survey unsold may be a publication that has sold instead. You may momentarily lose sight of a head that is unsold and when he realizes it can not return it to the dealer because they are made after the deadlines. In addition, the label helps to bring the newsagent with ease a publication to the relevant distributor and to always know what was in the house. A little help from not even seen the difficult times that many kiosks are experiencing.

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A final consideration is given to those in the network, taking advantage of the problems of distribution, offering for sale the first issue of The Little Ranger in big bucks. One word: shame. As for you, do not fall into the trap. The n. 1 euro is worth 6 and no more. If you can not find it, contact us: with the formula of advance payment, I will send them home for 6 Euros without shipping costs!

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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solar
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Posted - 12/12/2013 : 23:51:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Recchioni je napokon potvrdio da je prvi broj Orfana (ipak) prodan u 50.000 komada, a granica isplativosti je trenutačno na 30.000 zbog visokog tiraža, kad padne tiraž pada i "granica" za nekoliko tisuća primjeraka.

Dodaje da također očekuju prihod od luksuznog izdanja (knjižare i striparnice).

quote:
Ma, veramente, io li ho detti chiaramente:
io SPERAVO 60.000.
Dalle 50.000 andava tutto bene.
Il pareggio è, grossomodo (dico grossomodo perché la tiratura cambia in corso di pubblicazione e con essa il pareggio, generalmente abbassandosi) è a 30.000.
Ovvio che se facevamo 80.000 oggi stavamo offrendo da bere.

Detto questo, per Orfani sono ovviamente importanti le vendite in edicola, ma il progetto è complessivo e si basa anche sull'operazione in libreria di varia, in fumetteria e su Kindle condotta insieme alla Bao e sulle vendite all'estero.
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Posted - 18/12/2013 : 00:25:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kao što je već spomenuto u drugom topicu ukidaju se sva gigant izdanja osim Teksovog. Iako ta izdanja još uvijek mogu pokrivati troškove (vjerovatno nešto i zaraditi), imaju tendenciju pada tako da su se u Bonelliju odlučili na ovaj potez uz istovremeno povećanje broja profitabilnijih izdanja (kolor-festvi, maksiji itd.)

Također se govori o osnivanju zasebne gigant edicije u kojoj bi se radili "team-upovi" raznih junaka, prvi će biti Dragonero/Zagor.

- Zagor kolorac će vjerovatno ići dvaput godišnje.
- Ovogodišnji Zagor gigant je prodan u 25.000 primjeraka

Sve ove informacije su potekle od Burattinija i Roberta Altarive tako da bi trebale biti točne, ali ne bih se čudio da bude i nekih izmjena, vidjet ćemo.

Edited by - solar on 01/04/2016 13:17:10
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Poli
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Posted - 18/12/2013 : 08:02:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by solar

Također se govori o osnivanju zasebne gigant edicije u kojoj bi se radili "team-upovi" raznih junaka, prvi će biti Dragonero/Zagor.



Vremeplov?


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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 17:34:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Festival Lucca Comics&Games je imao 217.646 posjetitelja s plaćenom ulaznicom za vrijeme 4 dana trajanja.
http://www.luccacomicsandgames.com/it/2013/news/passione-e-numeri-da-record/
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 17:40:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Festival Figures

217,646 paying visitors during the 4 days of the festival

that go up to a total of 264,454, including free entries.

Over 380,000 total visitors in the city, including free events

20 areas of the city centre involved

About 900 journalists and press operators

Over 700 stands arranged in 6 different sections

More than 500 main events realized.

180 hours of events dedicated to comics, in which took part 434 speakers

About 1,300 artists who showed their work to editors

Over 700 original works displayed in 4 different locations

600 comics' authors.

16 concerts and shows both on the Stage and in auditoriums

1.600 registrations for the cosplay contest

5,645 under 10 kids who gave life to the Junior pavilion (800 of them were from schools of Lucca and its Province, and took part in the activities reserved for them the first day of the festival).

40,000 square meters of exhibitors, of which 13,000 reserved for Lucca Games. This section of the festival was founded 20 years ago and we celebrated it adding 6,000 square meters dedicated to live role-playing games, over 1,600 spaces reserved for traditional games (cards, board games, role-playing games, miniatures), over 1,000 spaces reserved for video games, which hosted 30,000 game sessions, reaching a total amount of 20,000 gaming hours.

2,072,034 pages visited on the official web site (1 October-4 November)

of which 407,847 from 31 October to 3 November

4,238,316 reached users (range) and 84,100 "likes" on the main Facebook page

7,800 Twitter followers

600,000 views for the Flickr photo gallery.

104,000 views for the making-of video of the official 2013 poster

About 50,000 total views for the highlights' videos published on our main YouTube channel.

Ja sam fetišist papira!

Edited by - jaki on 19/12/2013 17:47:17
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Posted - 04/01/2014 : 02:45:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cijena produkcije Dylana
quote:
Facciamo solo un discorso di tempoi e soldi, ok? Quanto costa di costi vivi un albo di Dylan? Di media, stando bassi, 30.000 euro. Per testi e disegni (poi ci sono altre spese produttive ma tralasciamole). Quanto ci vuole a realizzare un singolo episodio? Come minimo nove mesi. Con quanto anticipo si lavora: di solito, due anni, per il rilancio stiamo lavorando con un solo anno di anticipo.
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Posted - 10/01/2014 : 19:53:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dobre vijesti na vidiku...
quote:
Recchioni:Terzo arco narrativo della serie più discussa dell'anno appena passato? Partito. Nuova miniserie basata su una delle cose mie che amo di più? Pure. Mi devo mettere al telefono. Il gioco ricomincia.
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quote:
Originally posted by solar

Dobre vijesti na vidiku...
quote:
Recchioni:Terzo arco narrativo della serie più discussa dell'anno appena passato? Partito. Nuova miniserie basata su una delle cose mie che amo di più? Pure. Mi devo mettere al telefono. Il gioco ricomincia.



to u prevodu na slovenski znaci........

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Posted - 12/01/2014 : 13:12:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Potvrđena treća sezona Orfana i nova Recchionijeva mini serija.

"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam."
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Posted - 12/01/2014 : 14:27:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Samo mi ne ide u glavu kako će to sve vremenski stići s obzirom na obveze prema Dylanu, Orfanima, Le Storiama i Teksu.
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Posted - 12/01/2014 : 14:49:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send teller an AOL message  Send teller an ICQ Message  Send teller a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deers

Potvrđena treća sezona Orfana i nova Recchionijeva mini serija.


aha,dobre vijesti...hvala...hoce te orfane netko domaci poceti?

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Posted - 12/01/2014 : 15:52:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teller

quote:
Originally posted by Deers

Potvrđena treća sezona Orfana i nova Recchionijeva mini serija.


aha,dobre vijesti...hvala...hoce te orfane netko domaci poceti?



Ja se nadam Darkwoodu...
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Posted - 12/01/2014 : 16:24:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by solar

Samo mi ne ide u glavu kako će to sve vremenski stići s obzirom na obveze prema Dylanu, Orfanima, Le Storiama i Teksu.



Ovakve se prilike ne propuštaju, a on, ako ništa drugo, naučio je da treba maksimalno iskoristiti dano mu vrijeme. Recimo da su mu ovo najbolje godine, dovoljno žara i iskustava da se može uhvatiti u koštac s time. Nadam se. Šteta bi bilo da jedno pati zbog drugoga.

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Posted - 15/01/2014 : 14:39:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesantan članak s interesantnim podacima:
http://www.fumettologica.it/2014/01/orfani-il-progetto-il-marketing-e-i-risultati-intervista-roberto-recchioni-bao-bonelli/

quote:
15.01.14
L'intervista è un poco superata dai tempi. Il terzo arco narrativi di Orfani si farà.

Edited by - solar on 15/01/2014 18:53:37
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Posted - 15/01/2014 : 15:00:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Da, uskoro Orfani i kod nas

"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam."
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Od koga?

Sorare pozivnica: https://sorare.com/r/sreja1985

Edited by - split85 on 15/01/2014 15:05:04
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quote:
Originally posted by Deers

Da, uskoro Orfani i kod nas


nadam se da si ozbiljan....i ne zezas...ko to izdavao uzimam bez razmisljanja...

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Potvrđujem Deersove reči...nešto sam i ja načuo.

DNEVNIK CITANJA:
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Rekao bih DW bi mogalo, ali da li i hoce ...



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Rekao bih DW bi mogalo, ali da li i hoce ...




DW ima lošu izdavačku politiku, ništa atraktivno ne radi.
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Imas pravo. Ako pogledamo samo Bonelli, sta ce im Julia & Lilit kada nemaju "the one and only in red T-shirt and an egg on a stick." I tamo neka Gea bila, sve vec viđeno i prozvakano, jos od vremena Dnevnika.



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