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teller
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Posted - 15/12/2010 : 20:07:00
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onda nisi ništa zakasnio, strip nije tvrd več samo plastificirane korice. što se kioska tiče pogledaj što još tamo prolazi...Zagor,Dilan,Alan Ford i neki junaci sa u najboljem slučaju dvomjesečnim ritmom...problem je da deca malo čitaju stripove, da nema novca previše i da je Mali Rendžer poznat samo onoj generaciji koja ga je pratila u Dnevniku..što ne znači da nije strip i za djecu(prvih 70 brojeva i je više za dijecu nego zrelije). Želje su jedno a stvarnost drugo...Van Gogh je mali izdavač i ne može si dopustit luksuz tiskanja 3000 komada kad se ga prodalo možda jedna trečina tiraža...nemaju skladište,distribucija na kioscima je skupa itd.... Za mene su oni (i uz zavrzlamu sa prvih 9 brojeva Gambinih naslovnica)odličan izdavač, koji je izgleda našao način da nam Kita Tellera serijal izda i pruži u cijelosti...tempo izdavanja nije ubitačan ali za ova jeb...ena vremena oskudnice i pregršt drugih izdanja, nije taj tempo ni loš...onaj kod koga prevlada želja može to nabavit ili u striparnicama ili preko pošte...i ja bi radije da je MR svakog mjeseca na kioscima,ali kad to nije moguće imam dva rešenja...ili prestat sa serijalom ili se potrudit i to nabavljat vjerujući izdavaću (veliki fanovi MR)da će nam prije ili kasnije pružit pogled na krasan serijal MR od 250 i nešto brojeva...ja jim vjerujem, a neke druge opcije i nemam... čak je talijanski serijal teško ili nikako nabavljiv, a one zavrzlame koje je Dnevnik radio sa Malim Rendžerom me ne zanimaju ni malo..zahvaljujuči njima MR nikad nije stekao slavu Zagora i Bleka...ali to su bila druga vremena i ja sam Dnevniku zahvalan do groba da me bar upoznao sa tim junakom. Guffy, razumem tvoje želje i one su iste mojim ali jeb..i ga, ne ide.
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DKoor
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Croatia
1593 Posts
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Posted - 15/12/2010 : 22:00:04
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quote: Originally posted by Guffy
Nisam uzeo ni jedan tvdri strio, i gle čuda uopče mi ne fale, da su došli na kiosk uzeo bi 99posto
Ja sam bio entuzijast i uzimao sam dva tri serijala Bonelli sa tvrdim koricama. Od Martija sam odustao odmah na početku, Mr.Noa sam prodao u Englesku za nabavne pare, M.Vjetra i dalje "kupujem" premda nisam kupio novi broj ima 10 mjeseci, odnosno imam samo 7 komada. Kad cu s nastavcima ne znam. Tako da sam došao do istog mišljenja kao i ti.
Samo znam da me ta zmija neće ujesti pa da krenem ponovno sa nekim +100 serijalom, a što se tiče tvrdoukoričenih stripova samo albumi a iznimku za serijale bih napravio za remek djelo devete umjetnosti što nijedan tvdri serijal trenutno nije (MV se možda najviše približio ali i on je prilično daleko).
quote: Originally posted by teller
Guffy, razumem tvoje želje i one su iste mojim ali jeb..i ga, ne ide.
Slažem se, mislim da manje više svi mi dijelimo isto mišljenje, samo vremena su prilično teška a za strip pogotovo. Da bi čovjek samo ovlaš pratio strip izdanja danas mogao bi potrošiti 100 eura mjesečno što je veliki luksuz za većinu. |
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teller
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Slovenia
19121 Posts
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Posted - 15/12/2010 : 22:12:43
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pa da imam ja tu dilemu ko ti DKoor,odlučio bi za kratak ali sladak serijal Volto Nascosta(Skriveno lice),7 knjiga-14 epizoda jako zanimljivog štiva, pa još kad bi nabavio bio bi bez slabe vesti jer SL je nešto najbolje što je uz Magičnog izašlo u zadnje vrijeme kod Bonellija...ali kako rečeš,Magični je dosta dug serijal za izpratit a Skriveno Lice taman kratak... nije da ti uvaljujem ili reklamiram, samo ti predlažem, do sada su sve kritike na Volto Naskosto bile više nego odlične...odluka je ionako tvoja. |
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murdo
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Christmas Island
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Posted - 15/12/2010 : 23:10:01
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ja gotovo ništa i ne uzimam s kioska, skoro nijedan strip ne izlazi po pravom redosljedu ili barem s točnim brojevima.. iako to vjerovatno nije glavni razlog ipak stripovi koje kupujem su, blek, mark i af. |
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DKoor
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Croatia
1593 Posts
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Posted - 16/12/2010 : 08:57:31
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quote: Originally posted by teller
pa da imam ja tu dilemu ko ti DKoor,odlučio bi za kratak ali sladak serijal Volto Nascosta(Skriveno lice),7 knjiga-14 epizoda jako zanimljivog štiva, pa još kad bi nabavio bio bi bez slabe vesti jer SL je nešto najbolje što je uz Magičnog izašlo u zadnje vrijeme kod Bonellija...ali kako rečeš,Magični je dosta dug serijal za izpratit a Skriveno Lice taman kratak... nije da ti uvaljujem ili reklamiram, samo ti predlažem, do sada su sve kritike na Volto Naskosto bile više nego odlične...odluka je ionako tvoja.
Hvala na preporuci, definitivno ću razmisliti o SL (VN) . |
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Babilon
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Croatia
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Guffy
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Croatia
3109 Posts
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Posted - 16/12/2010 : 20:04:06
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quote: Originally posted by Babilon
MALI RENDŽER dojahao u Babilon!
U pratećim kolima stigla je i prva dama divljeg zapada, a kolima je upravljao i konje 'milovao' vlastitim brcima ...
Pozdrav iz Babilona! 
A gdje je to?? Mezopotamija mi je ipak nekako daleko, ptt mi se ne plača za jedan strip , i tako , vjerovatno ostajem na dnevnikovom Kit Teleru 
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Babilon
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Croatia
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Babilon
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 15:44:53
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quote: Originally posted by Guffy
quote: Originally posted by Babilon
MALI RENDŽER dojahao u Babilon!
U pratećim kolima stigla je i prva dama divljeg zapada, a kolima je upravljao i konje 'milovao' vlastitim brcima ...
Pozdrav iz Babilona! 
A gdje je to?? Mezopotamija mi je ipak nekako daleko, ptt mi se ne plača za jedan strip , i tako , vjerovatno ostajem na dnevnikovom Kit Teleru 
A gdje je to?? Đakovo, Pape Ivana Pavla II 11/4 (na korzu, 100 m od katedrale)
Mezopotamija mi je ipak nekako daleko ...

... ptt mi se ne plača za jedan strip ... Ako kupite svih 6 kom, šaljem na kućnu adresu, bez poštarine.
... i tako , vjerovatno ostajem na dnevnikovom Kit Teleru ...
 Ok, recite koji vam broj treba, ... danas ukidam poštarinu!
Pozdrav iz, ... ma znate već! 
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PAJDO
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Croatia
2237 Posts
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 15:49:06
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Mislio sam poslat mail ekipi it Van Gogha, ali bolje ovako, više će ljudi pročitat. Želim samo reći SVAKA ČAST na profesionalnosti!!!! Do sada sam uvijek naručivao mailom nova izdanja malog rendžera i sve bi stizalo super brzo (najviše dva-tri dana City expresom), odlično upakirano i .....ma šta bi još htio:))) Zato puna podrška od mene i samo nastavite ovako!!! |
In spite of my rage I´m still rat in a cage... |
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jaki
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Croatia
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teller
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Slovenia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 17:51:05
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šta je to jaki? Wiskeyev sindrom? Šta fali Malom Rendžeru, ovi prvi su istina naivni ali još malo i dobijamo več puno bolje i ozbiljnije MR. Ne treba se odnosit podcenjivajući do Kita Tellera, ukusi su različiti i dok se 300 (prije 500)komada MR proda ko za šalu, nekim izdanjima renomiranih izdavaćkih kuća je prodanih 300 primjeraka pusti san. |
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PAJDO
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 17:54:55
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
Ne mogu virovat da danas pored gomilu dobrih stripova ti još kupuješ Kita?
Priče su takve kakve su, više ih uzimam nostalgije radi, a i kvalitetno su odrađeni i cijena mi je ok, o usluzi sam već sve rekao tako da nema razloga da ih ne uzimam. Naravno, to ne znači da ne čitam i one kvalitetnije stripove |
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teller
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Slovenia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 18:15:19
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svaka čast,ljepo sročeno za 1300 post PAJDO. |
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Babilon
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Croatia
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PAJDO
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 19:40:28
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quote: Originally posted by teller
svaka čast,ljepo sročeno za 1300 post PAJDO.
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 20:30:02
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jebote led, jos uvijek pisu FRANKIEA! kakva nepismenost, mogli bi na repeticije cak i kod ane gaspar... |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 20:32:38
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quote: Originally posted by PAJDO
Mislio sam poslat mail ekipi it Van Gogha, ali bolje ovako, više će ljudi pročitat. Želim samo reći SVAKA ČAST na profesionalnosti!!!! Do sada sam uvijek naručivao mailom nova izdanja malog rendžera i sve bi stizalo super brzo (najviše dva-tri dana City expresom), odlično upakirano i .....ma šta bi još htio:))) Zato puna podrška od mene i samo nastavite ovako!!!
a ja kazem da su sugavi prevaranti i licemjeri, i imam dokaze crno na bijelo koje sam vec davno iznio vise puta. a di smo sad? i da su potpuno nepismeni. izgleda da su ti jako niski kriteriji... |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 20:47:36
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
jebote led, jos uvijek pisu FRANKIEA! kakva nepismenost, mogli bi na repeticije cak i kod ane gaspar...
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 20:48:31
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by PAJDO
Mislio sam poslat mail ekipi it Van Gogha, ali bolje ovako, više će ljudi pročitat. Želim samo reći SVAKA ČAST na profesionalnosti!!!! Do sada sam uvijek naručivao mailom nova izdanja malog rendžera i sve bi stizalo super brzo (najviše dva-tri dana City expresom), odlično upakirano i .....ma šta bi još htio:))) Zato puna podrška od mene i samo nastavite ovako!!!
a ja kazem da su sugavi prevaranti i licemjeri, i imam dokaze crno na bijelo koje sam vec davno iznio vise puta. a di smo sad? i da su potpuno nepismeni. izgleda da su ti jako niski kriteriji...
ovo svi govore za svakoga, više nije ni smišno |
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delboj
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 21:57:44
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quote: Originally posted by delboj
Ali otkud vjerenica, zar nije kod vas isključivo zaručnica. A i red riječi je pogrešan.
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 22:18:54
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
jebote led, jos uvijek pisu FRANKIEA! kakva nepismenost, mogli bi na repeticije cak i kod ane gaspar...
grozno!potpisujem curniru! |
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hello
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 22:29:57
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by PAJDO
Mislio sam poslat mail ekipi it Van Gogha, ali bolje ovako, više će ljudi pročitat. Želim samo reći SVAKA ČAST na profesionalnosti!!!! Do sada sam uvijek naručivao mailom nova izdanja malog rendžera i sve bi stizalo super brzo (najviše dva-tri dana City expresom), odlično upakirano i .....ma šta bi još htio:))) Zato puna podrška od mene i samo nastavite ovako!!!
a ja kazem da su sugavi prevaranti i licemjeri, i imam dokaze crno na bijelo koje sam vec davno iznio vise puta. a di smo sad? i da su potpuno nepismeni. izgleda da su ti jako niski kriteriji...
Evo samo podsjećanje gdje sam jedini put odgovorio na Curunirove provokacije:
CURUNIR: a sad i objasnjenje, jer moram priznati, mcn je lijepo i socno objasnio. ja sam daleko kraci:
utrosio sam oko 30 sati rada na lekturu 4 MR i 2 JULIJE (to govori u kakvom su stanju bile). trazio sam ili naknadu ili barem ime u impresumu. nisam mogao dobiti nista od toga. samo su ponudili 50 kn kao simbolicno plus stripove (u to vrijeme ona prva izdanja od po 16 kn su to bila). podijelite to s 30ak sati. smatrao sam to uvredom. toliko. ako takva osoba ne zasluzuje naziv ''govno'', ne znam tko zasluzuje. uz ogradu da hello nije glavni krivac nego sporedni. zato samo jednom, a ne 50 puta. i to nije bitno. bitno je da je djecacic uvrijeden i trazi ban. stvarno da poludis do daske! ma dosta vise, eto over and out. uzivajte.
HELLO
A može li i moje objašnjenje: Moje jedino upletanje bilo je što sam uredniku rekao da na forumu ima neki Curunir koji se razumije u lekturu i stupio sam sa njim u kontakt i on je rekao da ce BESPLATNO lektorirati stripove što sam prenjeo uredniku i jedino je rekao da ga se spomene u impressumu. Urednik je rekao da mu barem pošaljemo stripove zauzvrat i to je bilo OK. Tada je predmet došao do šefice u racunovodstvu koja je rekla da bi s poreznog stajališta bilo dobro da potpišemo ugovor o djelu s curunirom da to sve bude tip top. Tada je urednik predložio curuniru da potpiše Ugovor o djelu uz simbolicnu cijenu od 100,00 kn neto po broju (ne 50) na što je on popizdio i izrekao takve psovke na gospodu da je to nešto grozno. Znaci sam se ponudio da stripove lektorira BESPLATNO i za ime u impressumu, a na kraju bi dobio : stripove, 100,00 kn po broju i ime u impressumu. I to je cijela prica.
Što se tiče profesionalnosti sigurno je bilo propusta, desilo bi se da urednik kasno odgovori na e mail jer je često na službenom putu, ili da se zaboravi odgovoriti na e mail, bilo je pravopisnih pogrešaka, tipfelera i sl. ali nikad nitko od kupaca nije oštećen, tko god je reklamirao oštećene stripove bili su mu poslani novi. Mali rendžer je dogurao do broja 53 i nastavlja jahati dalje, a mislim da je to najvažnije. |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 17/12/2010 : 22:40:03
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hohoho! još jedna afera. jebate irud ko ovo može više pratit???? |
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