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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 15:57:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Kod Oscara 2011. da li bi Darkwood i Bookglobe izdanja Conana stavili u rubriku strip sveske ili strip albumi? Obrazlozenje nakon glasanja pozeljno, ne i obavezno.

Choices:
Sveske
Albumi

Markos
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:02:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Albumi.
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Deers
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:05:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
albumi. zašto sveske?
"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam."
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King Warrior
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:05:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
albumi
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:06:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deers

albumi. zašto sveske?


Sveske, zasto albumi?
Edited by - Mord on 25/09/2011 16:07:45
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paro
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:07:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Albumi.
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Imrahil
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:08:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Imrahil a Yahoo! Message  Send Imrahil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Albumi.
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:09:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zasad su obrazlozenja neoboriva.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:09:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dajte definiciju albuma i svesaka, pa da ovo ljudski na konstruktivan nacin razjasnimo.
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:13:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

dajte definiciju albuma i svesaka, pa da ovo ljudski na konstruktivan nacin razjasnimo.


Ne postoji. U tome je fora.
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bjelolasica
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:25:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bjelolasica a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Album. Svezak bi bio da nije album. Album je zato što nije svezak. To je barem jasno.
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sandyboy
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:28:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sandyboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovaj, nisu li ustvari oba Conana integrali? :D
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Snake Plissken
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:28:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Snake Plissken a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Za mene su albumi HC i veci format. Ne bih VCovo Zagor kolekcionarsko izdanje nazvao albume, ali Dovidjenja, gospodine bih. Takodje i SC Sistemove Bordzije recimo su mi album. Ne znam ni ja sad, ovo stvarno zbunjuje. :D
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:29:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bjelolasica

Album. Svezak bi bio da nije album. Album je zato što nije svezak. To je barem jasno.


A koja je razlika izmedju ovog i npr. kolekcionarskog dylana od veselog cetvrtka?
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:37:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zasad 18 glasova i nijedan argument. Tj. ima jedan, hc je i veliki format.
Edited by - Mord on 25/09/2011 16:37:48
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alexts
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:39:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Album.

Mene nešto buni - na srpskom postoji razlika između sveske i knjige. I to ne samo u školskom smislu (gde je sveska nešto u čemu se piše), nego u širem smislu, knjiga je nešto sa čvršćim povezom (ne obavezno i tvrdi, može i kartonski, kao džepna knjiga - i ne mora sadržaj da je književni /pisan/, može i strip, bilo šta), dok je sveska nešto savitljivije (vezano žicom ili lepljeno, ali što može da se urola, bez oštećivanja).

Na hrvatskom je izgleda obrnuto? Bookglobe svoje Amazing Spider-Mane označava i reklamira kao knjiga 1, knjiga 2 itd (a u mekom su povezu), dok je 2 albuma u tvrdom povezu Fort Wheeling označio kao svezak 1 i svezak 2.

Ili nema pravila?
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:46:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts

Album.

Mene nešto buni - na srpskom postoji razlika između sveske i knjige. I to ne samo u školskom smislu (gde je sveska nešto u čemu se piše), nego u širem smislu, knjiga je nešto sa čvršćim povezom (ne obavezno i tvrdi, može i kartonski, kao džepna knjiga - i ne mora sadržaj da je književni /pisan/, može i strip, bilo šta), dok je sveska nešto savitljivije (vezano žicom ili lepljeno, ali što može da se urola, bez oštećivanja).



Po ovome sto si napisao bi sve sto ima hrbat bilo knjiga. Pa tako i svi kiosk Bonelliji npr. U biti ne bi, jer su oni ljepljeni. Znaci sve sto ima hrbat, ali ne ljepljeni.

quote:
Originally posted by alexts

Na hrvatskom je izgleda obrnuto? Bookglobe svoje Amazing Spider-Mane označava i reklamira kao knjiga 1, knjiga 2 itd (a u mekom su povezu), dok je 2 albuma u tvrdom povezu Fort Wheeling označio kao svezak 1 i svezak 2.

Ili nema pravila?


Mislim da nema, a ako ima sumnjam da netko o tome razmislja.


Inace, mislio sam da postoji neki drugi kriterij osim formata i uveza.
Edited by - Mord on 25/09/2011 16:54:48
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Imrahil
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 16:55:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Imrahil a Yahoo! Message  Send Imrahil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Meni je termin "knjiga" u stripu malo bezveze.
A ovo album ili sveska posmatram sa strane dimenzija ili formata. Ne mogu ovolikog Konana da posmatram kao svesku.
Edited by - Imrahil on 25/09/2011 16:56:16
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all_ba
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 17:10:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit all_ba's Homepage  Send all_ba a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Album, zato što ima formu, ali i "karakter" albuma. Veliki format i tvrde korice. E, sad što je u sklopu tog albuma 7 sveski to je druga priča. Pa, albumi su i ovi najavljeni Rip Kirbijevi. Biće jaka konkurencija ove godine.:)
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 17:11:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Darth Ivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
albumi, naravno!
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Andrej
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 17:12:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Andrej a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Album a ne sveska
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 17:54:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
30 naprema jedan i jos uvijek bez jednog jedinog argumenta osim velicine sto povlaci da su Darkwood i Bookglobe malo smanjili te stripove onda bi bili sveske. Zar mi zbilja glasamo samo za karton i velicinu?
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King Warrior
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 18:02:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ja sam jos prosle godine govorio da bi Oskara najbolje bilo podijeliti u dvije kategorije
- SBE stripovi
- Strip albumi
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Deers
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 18:04:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a kamo onda pripada lavirint?

nisu albumi skupovi svezaka ali svi skupovi svezaka su albumi.
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teller
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 18:10:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send teller an AOL message  Send teller an ICQ Message  Send teller a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
pa to je bar jasno...album je HC i A4 format, a sveske su SC i bonelli ili A5 format...ja na drugi način (ako se več mora)
ta izdanja ne vidim mogućnosti dijeliti...
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Mord
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 18:10:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

ja sam jos prosle godine govorio da bi Oskara najbolje bilo podijeliti u dvije kategorije
- SBE stripovi
- Strip albumi


Onda je alan ford strip album.


quote:
Originally posted by Deers

a kamo onda pripada lavirint?

nisu albumi skupovi svezaka ali svi skupovi svezaka su albumi.


Dakle, Dylan Dog kolekcionarski je album, Magicni Vjetar je album,...


quote:
Originally posted by teller

pa to je bar jasno...album je HC i A4 format, a sveske su SC i bonelli ili A5 format...ja na drugi način (ako se več mora)
ta izdanja ne vidim mogućnosti dijeliti...


Znaci da je ovo stampano malo manje ili s mekim koricama onda ne bi bio album?
Edited by - Mord on 25/09/2011 18:13:12
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