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DeeCay
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 19:21:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dante, jesi li ti to pogledao film usporeno sličicu po sličicu?! Trebalo je ovo uočiti...

Ja opravdama CGI za one fantastične scene kad moraju prikazati neke impresivne lokacije ili čudovišta; za obične stuntove baš i ne mora. Samo što za izvođenje spektakularnog stunta kao što je skakanje s litice, očito puno sigurnije i efektnije s CGI.

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dante
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 19:54:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dante a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vjerovao ili ne, uocio sam to isprve bez usporavanja, namirisim CGI na kilometar
Ma OK, ionako se jadam u prazno, takav su pristup uzeli s ovom trilogijom i gotovo. Najvaznije je da filmovi budu dobri, onda i CGI pada u drugi plan.

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brni
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 20:48:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send brni a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dante

Sta reci, jedva cekam.
Jedino me jako smeta sto Jackson od Hobbita, za razliku od LOTR-a, radi totalni CGI lunapark.



Nesto ka ovo..


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DeeCay
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 20:57:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
brni, čujemo nešto da će i Supes biti CGI!

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fler
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 21:32:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fler a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dante

S Hobbitom je izgleda isao linijom manjeg otpora. Cemu se jebavati s kaskaderstvom i prakticnim efektima kad mozes sve iz fotelje.
Npr, cemu kraj zivog i zdravog Orlanda Blooma raditi njegovu CGI verziju za obican stunt kao sto je klizanje po liscu? Stari dobri Orlando vise ne moze saviti noge u koljenima ili?




Od laganog zavaljivanja u fotelju nakon što se pritisne dugme "Orlando se kliže po lišću" (jer, jasno, kompjutori sve rade sami), lakše je samo pljuvati - jer, postoji milijun razloga zašto bi se išlo na digitalnog dvojnika ali linija manjeg otpora nije jedan od njih.
Zašto?
Zato što je za naknadnu integraciju CG elemenata potrebno puno više vremena i posla (pogotovo ako nije unaprijed planirana, što je ovdje lako moguće) od snimanja na setu, koje je već i samo po sebi zaje*ano.

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Edited by - fler on 12/06/2013 21:35:23
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Cromwell
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 21:39:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Cromwell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jel ovo trailer za film ili igru?

Bok, kako si.
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brni
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 21:44:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send brni a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by DeeCay

brni, čujemo nešto da će i Supes biti CGI!



Znaci Superman Lunapark..odlicno..

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dante
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 22:44:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dante a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fler
Od laganog zavaljivanja u fotelju nakon što se pritisne dugme "Orlando se kliže po lišću" (jer, jasno, kompjutori sve rade sami), lakše je samo pljuvati - jer, postoji milijun razloga zašto bi se išlo na digitalnog dvojnika ali linija manjeg otpora nije jedan od njih.
Zašto?
Zato što je za naknadnu integraciju CG elemenata potrebno puno više vremena i posla (pogotovo ako nije unaprijed planirana, što je ovdje lako moguće) od snimanja na setu, koje je već i samo po sebi zaje*ano.



Gle, slijepo i nekriticko fanboy gledanje na stvari gdje se apsolutno nista ne moze gledati kriticki bez da se ne proziva za pljuvanje sam prerastao negdje iza srednje skole. Ovo nije pljuvanje, samo izdvajam ono sto me smeta, a kao ogroman fan Tolkiena i filmske trilogije (pa i prvog Hobbita), valjda imam pravo izreci svoje misljenje.
Ne vidim kako je kadar mogao biti neplaniran posto vec u sljedecem kadru na tom istom setu "zivi" Legolas drzi uperen luk i strijelu. Pretpostavljam da su znali da ga nece spustiti pred Thorina bozanskom intervencijom i da nekako mora uci u kadar...hodajuci, trceci, klizuci na koljenima ili surfajuci na necijem stitu. Koji god slucaj da izaberes, ziva osoba od krvi i mesa to moze uciniti, a Orlanda Blooma su ocito imali na setu prisutnog.

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Edited by - dante on 12/06/2013 22:46:04
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dante
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 22:44:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dante a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brni

Nesto ka ovo..






To te ja pitam

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bisley
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Posted - 23/07/2013 : 21:44:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zna li netko kad će redateljska verzija?
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 23/07/2013 : 21:48:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by bisley

Zna li netko kad će redateljska verzija?

Mislim da je to nepotrebno

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dante
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Posted - 23/07/2013 : 22:42:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dante a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jos nema sluzbenog datuma, ali rekli su da ce produzene verzije izlaziti kao sto je bio slucaj s LOTR-om, koji tjedan prije nego sto izadje novi film. Znaci racunaj negdje od sredine studenog prema prosincu.

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Windwalker
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Posted - 24/07/2013 : 00:48:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dakle, knjiga s manje od 300 stranica rastavljena je u tri trosatna filma, koji su zapravo skraćene verzije?
Epic!
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dante
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Posted - 24/07/2013 : 10:49:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dante a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne samo knjiga, vec knjiga plus gomila dodataka koji se nalaze na kraju Povratka Kralja, a koji opisuju dogadjaje prije, za vrijeme i nakon Hobita, te time upotpunjuju knjigu.

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Windwalker
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Posted - 24/07/2013 : 20:22:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ma znam. Ali ipak.
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bisley
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Posted - 26/07/2013 : 13:00:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nadam se da će biti više od 30 minuta dodanog materijala. Mislim da sam negdje pročitao kolika će točno biti dodana minutaža, ali su opet poslije nadosnimavane neke scene koje će naknadno ući u film...
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dante
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Posted - 01/08/2013 : 00:25:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dante a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eto ga: 13 minuta dodatnog materijala, izlazi 5. studenog.


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Windwalker
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Posted - 01/08/2013 : 00:43:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Samo 13?

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alanford
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Posted - 02/08/2013 : 19:41:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alanford a Yahoo! Message  Send alanford a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker

Samo 13?



I ja sam ocekivao vise...
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Davor2403
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Posted - 02/08/2013 : 21:14:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Davor2403 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne brinite, zato će kad izađe dvica biti produženo jedno 22 minute, i onda će trica biti produžena 35 I imati ćemo na kraju jedno 9 sati materijala..
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bisley
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Posted - 19/08/2013 : 14:23:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dante

Eto ga: 13 minuta dodatnog materijala, izlazi 5. studenog.



Hvala
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rommel
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Posted - 19/08/2013 : 18:35:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alanford

quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker

Samo 13?



I ja sam ocekivao vise...


od toga je dvanaest minuta zahvala mamama bakama curama ženama, nešto duža odjavna špica jer nisu nabrojali svo pomoćno osoblje te minut duža extended verzija završnog songa...
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sretan
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Posted - 19/08/2013 : 20:05:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sretan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Srećom je prvi dio filma toliko loš da se uopće ne isplati njime zamarati. Iskreno sumnjam da će preostala dva dijela biti puno bolja (:
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bisley
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Posted - 06/09/2013 : 14:35:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/this-week-dvd-blu-ray/exclusive-first-look-hobbit-extended-cut-172949240.html
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 06/09/2013 : 17:33:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sretan

Srećom je prvi dio filma toliko loš da se uopće ne isplati njime zamarati. Iskreno sumnjam da će preostala dva dijela biti puno bolja (:

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