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acestroke
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 16:50:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
od danas u SNK

Sclavi / Ferri
broj originala: 201
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Edited by - acestroke on 01/02/2012 16:51:32

jaki
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 16:56:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Devil Mask?
Ja sam fetišist papira!
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velka031
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 16:58:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Devil Mask?



U duhu rvackog jezika, super
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velka031
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:00:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Za mene dugo očekivan strip, još jedna sjajna Sclavijeva priča uz vrhunskog Ferrija, tu nema greške...
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acestroke
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:02:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ovu epizodu kad budem jednog dana prevodio na engleski, ostavicu naslov ovakav kakav jest, super zvuci ovdje u USA
;)
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DzekDenijels
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:16:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit DzekDenijels's Homepage  Send DzekDenijels a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fenomenalna epizoda !!!
Mada mi Demonska maska mnooogo bolje zvuči.
Carpe diem
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dnevni boravak
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:43:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dnevni boravak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A što nemože "Đavlja maska"?
I'm working on a dream Though sometimes it feels so far away
I'm working on a dream And I know it will be mine someday......
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srdjandj
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:48:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send srdjandj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A meni je svejedno...Nebitno.
Iz Vršca stiže glas, u vinu leži spas, ko vino ne pije, taj nek se ubije!!!
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acestroke
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:50:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Haman im je lakse ovako, naslov vec kako je bio kod italijana, pa ne moraju nista mjenjat, manje posla za njih.
Sve u svemu, meni naslov ne skodi, ali totalno razumijem ako drugima ne godi
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Pavel
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:55:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pavel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne može "Đavolja Maska" ili tako nešto jer se prevodi s talijanskog, a ne engleskog. Ako je riječ u nekom drugom jeziku od onog s kojeg se prevodi, MORA SE OSTAVITI u njemu i ne prevoditi!!! To zna svatko tko je studiorao neki strani jezik jer bi se na prijevodnim vježbama iz konkretno talijanskoga palo zbog te "Đavolje maske"
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Otto Kraus
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:02:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Otto Kraus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dnevni boravak

A što nemože "Đavlja maska"?


Ma garant si mislio na "Vražja maska",kakvi đavoli,eventualno prikaze umjesto demona
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acestroke
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:03:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pavel je u pravu. Istu stvar su uradili sa epizodama Ocean, Sandy River, Massai Killer, Tropical Corp, Sierra Blanca, Thunderman, itd.
http://www.acestroke.blogspot.com
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selanne
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:13:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit selanne's Homepage  Send selanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by acestroke

Pavel je u pravu. Istu stvar su uradili sa epizodama Ocean, Sandy River, Massai Killer, Tropical Corp, Sierra Blanca, Thunderman, itd.
Ocean??
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jaki
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:13:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pavel

Ne može "Đavolja Maska" ili tako nešto jer se prevodi s talijanskog, a ne engleskog. Ako je riječ u nekom drugom jeziku od onog s kojeg se prevodi, MORA SE OSTAVITI u njemu i ne prevoditi!!! To zna svatko tko je studiorao neki strani jezik jer bi se na prijevodnim vježbama iz konkretno talijanskoga palo zbog te "Đavolje maske"

Šta bi im glava opala da su preveli ime?
Uostalom,ime je indijanca(ne sičam se iz kojeg plemena)a sumnjam da se on baš originalno zva Devil Mask.Prije će bit da se zva huk tah(karikiram) pa bi trebalo onda prevest jer Devil Mask nije originalno ime tog indijanca već engleski prijevod tog imena.Kao i Winter Snake i ostala indijanska imena na engleskom.Primjer:Sitting Bullhttp://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull
Originalno indijansko ime Tatanka Iyotanka,engleski prijevod-SittingBull,hrvatskiprijevod-Bik Koji Sjedi.
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acestroke
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:15:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by selanne

quote:
Originally posted by acestroke

Pavel je u pravu. Istu stvar su uradili sa epizodama Ocean, Sandy River, Massai Killer, Tropical Corp, Sierra Blanca, Thunderman, itd.
Ocean??


Umjesto Okean, na primjer.
You get the point.
:)
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selanne
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:16:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit selanne's Homepage  Send selanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zašto okean, kad je ionako kod nas ocean?
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Pavel
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:17:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pavel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Šta bi im glava opala da su preveli ime?
Uostalom,ime je indijanca(ne sičam se iz kojeg plemena)a sumnjam da se on baš originalno zva Devil Mask.Prije će bit da se zva huk tah(karikiram) pa bi trebalo onda prevest jer Devil Mask nije originalno ime tog indijanca već engleski prijevod tog imena.Kao i Winter Snake i ostala indijanska imena na engleskom.Primjer:Sitting Bullhttp://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull
Originalno indijansko ime Tatanka Iyotanka,engleski prijevod-SittingBull,hrvatskiprijevod-Bik Koji Sjedi.



Nema to veze s imenom nego s prevoditeljskim pravilom koje sam rekao, a koje nismo izmislili ni ja ni Ludensova prevoditeljica. Isto je i s uzvicima, npr. "goddamn!" ili bilo čim drugim. A tog Bika Koji Sjedi smo već imali, čini mi se dok je bio aktualan Massai Killer.
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jaki
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:21:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
prevoditeljsko pravilo važnije od pravila pisanja imena u originalnalnom obliku?
jer ako je devil mask engleski prijevod indijanskog imena onda je trebalo u našem staviti originalno indijansko ime(kojeg u ovom slučaju neznamo) ili prevesti na hrvatski.
Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Poli
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:29:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja sam 100% da ce se u Ludensu Texov trenutni VC broj zvati Golden Errow (ime broda, pa bi zato ostalo)... a ako cemo se saliti, moglo bi se ovo zvati i "Vrazje liceskrivalo" ili nesto, pa je bolje da ostane kako je. :DD
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Pavel
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:29:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pavel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

prevoditeljsko pravilo važnije od pravila pisanja imena u originalnalnom obliku?
jer ako je devil mask engleski prijevod indijanskog imena onda je trebalo u našem staviti originalno indijansko ime(kojeg u ovom slučaju neznamo) ili prevesti na hrvatski.


Čuj, prevodiš ono što dobiješ s točno konkretnog jezika. Piše Devil Mask, a ne Maschera di Diavolo, dakle ostaje kako je u riginalu. E sad, zašto je Sclavi odlučio da u naslovu (pretpostavljam i u stripu) bude engleski umjesto talijanskoga ili "indijanskoga", ne znam. Najbolje da to njega pitaš.
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Mali_Mate
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:31:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Mali_Mate's Homepage  Send Mali_Mate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

prevoditeljsko pravilo važnije od pravila pisanja imena u originalnalnom obliku?
jer ako je devil mask engleski prijevod indijanskog imena onda je trebalo u našem staviti originalno indijansko ime(kojeg u ovom slučaju neznamo) ili prevesti na hrvatski.


Not really, ako prevedes direktno na hrvatski unistavas koncepciju djela (jest da je to Zagor, al je svejedno autorsko djelo )...ko god da je pisao scenarij htio je da mu naslov bude na engleskom, to mu je iz ovog ili onog razloga bilo bitno....prevoditeljeva intervencija bi omalovazila autorov izbor i to samo po sebi nije pozitivno....
http://matanovogumno.blogspot.com
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selanne
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:31:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit selanne's Homepage  Send selanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Poli

Ja sam 100% da ce se u Ludensu Texov trenutni VC broj zvati Golden Errow (ime broda, pa bi zato ostalo)... a ako cemo se saliti, moglo bi se ovo zvati i "Vrazje liceskrivalo" ili nesto, pa je bolje da ostane kako je. :DD


Ja sam siguran da se neće zvati tako. Hoćemo se kladiti?
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Pavel
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:34:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pavel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mali_Mate

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

prevoditeljsko pravilo važnije od pravila pisanja imena u originalnalnom obliku?
jer ako je devil mask engleski prijevod indijanskog imena onda je trebalo u našem staviti originalno indijansko ime(kojeg u ovom slučaju neznamo) ili prevesti na hrvatski.


Not really, ako prevedes direktno na hrvatski unistavas koncepciju djela (jest da je to Zagor, al je svejedno autorsko djelo )...ko god da je pisao scenarij htio je da mu naslov bude na engleskom, to mu je iz ovog ili onog razloga bilo bitno....prevoditeljeva intervencija bi omalovazila autorov izbor i to samo po sebi nije pozitivno....


Tako je.
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jaki
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:43:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Poli

Ja sam 100% da ce se u Ludensu Texov trenutni VC broj zvati Golden Errow (ime broda, pa bi zato ostalo)... nesto, pa je bolje da ostane kako je. :DD


prije će biti golden error
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selanne
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:45:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit selanne's Homepage  Send selanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mislio sam na Golden Arrow.
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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Poli
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Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:45:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by selanne

quote:
Originally posted by Poli

Ja sam 100% da ce se u Ludensu Texov trenutni VC broj zvati Golden Errow (ime broda, pa bi zato ostalo)... a ako cemo se saliti, moglo bi se ovo zvati i "Vrazje liceskrivalo" ili nesto, pa je bolje da ostane kako je. :DD
Ja sam siguran da se neće zvati tako. Hoćemo se kladiti?

Znao sam da me nesto prcas. Ok, Golden Arrow.


Kud sam nasao ovaj Eeeeeeerrow... ne znam ni sta bi to moglo biti... Golden Error?

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