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teller
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 07:48:31
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svaka čast, nisam osobiti fan superheroja i DAREDEVIL je jedino izdanje koje bi i hoću uzeti... tako da, ja sam što se USE heroja tiče potpuno zadovoljen....fala Fibri jer Marvel izlazi na kapaljke kod nas. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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Zlix
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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 10:27:02
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quote: Originally posted by globinjo seljo,nisi uzeo rip kirbyja       
Zaboravih njega! To je isto pod znakom pitanja...  |
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Elesar
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 10:44:39
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quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
sjajno baš i nisam pri parama, ali skupiće se valjda 
Taman od onog sto ti pretekne nakon odustajanja od preskupog oversized Konana ;) |
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Snake Plissken
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Serbia
707 Posts
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 11:23:13
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Ma daj, ja ne bih nikad onolike novce dao za onu kradju, knjizurine od 400 strana i 3kg za 18e. Pa ko je tu lud?
Nego, da li je postojala mozda opcija da mozda Nebojsa ide u c/b ili da papir bude slabijeg kvaliteta da bi se smanjila finalna cena? Mozda manji format ili meke korice? |
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Snake Plissken
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 11:31:35
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No, da ne bude sad da je ovo upuceno Fibri i Marku - nije. Samo podsecam na Imrahilov obrazac zalbi "Mac je preskup, smanjite format, ako moze cena kao VC" i slicno, apropo price na DW forumu. |
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goksi
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 12:26:11
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Snejk ja sam se baš dugo dvoumio pa onda izračunao, ovo izađe 12600 dinara za oko 1360 strana. 100 strana te košta nešto preko 900 din. Mislim da je Markos u pravu i da ovo jeste već sada jeftino. |
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General Katana
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 12:34:17
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ovo izgleda fenomenalno!! svaka cast na okretanju ka Marvelu. Kapetan Amerika je bio pun pogodak...
ali da je skupo - skupo je...
npr. HRONIKE KONANA Darkwooda kostaju oko 17€ (OK, u promo periodu, ali to i jeste cena za nas koji visimo ovde, jer cemo kupiti sigurno cim izadje)- tvrde korice, kolor, 350 strana...
ovo je duplo skuplje!
ali opet, kome ne odgovara - neka kupi za 12€ preko Bookdepository paperback ili za oko 18€ hardback...
ko hoce da cita na srpsko-hrvatskom - nema drugi izbor... i bezveze je buniti se... luksuzno je izdanje, fenomenalno izgleda... kosta papreno... jbg...
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Zagor12
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:20:05
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1) Ne znam kojom matematikom ti je 25 Eura duplo skuplje od 17? 2) Konan Hronike su rađene u 1000 primjeraka, a Daredevil u 500 i to je bitna razlika. 3) 30% od maloprodajne cijene stripa je trgovačka marža. Dakle, od 25 Eura, Fibri ostane 17.5, 7.5 ide trgovcu. Čim Fibra bude imala najveću striparnicu u ex-Yu, prodavat ćemo Daredevila za 17 Eura, nema problema. 4) cijene na bookdepositoryju nisu baš 12 paperback ili 18 hc, npr. naša knjiga 2 košta 25e, a original u mekom uvezu 23 eura http://www.bookdepository.com/Daredevil-by-Frank-Miller-Klaus-Janson-v-1-Frank-Miller/9780785134732
U svakom slučaju, hvala ti na komentaru jer sam sad sam sa sobom raščistio neke stvari: koliko god se ja opasnim vratolomijama trudio spustiti cijenu, većini ljudi će ona uvijek biti previsoka. E, pa onda nema smisla više izvoditi vratolomije. |
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Imrahil
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:31:12
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quote: Originally posted by Elesar Taman od onog sto ti pretekne nakon odustajanja od preskupog oversized Konana ;)
Aj nađi gde sam ja rekao da je Konan preskup? Cena je sjajna za ono što dobiješ, meni se format ne sviđa..
Mada, kapiram zašto si napisao ovo. Dovoljno je sabrati 2 i 2.. |
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General Katana
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:35:30
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Tako je. posto ionako niko do sada nije spustio cene na zalbe kupaca, mislim da slobodno mozes i jace cene da stavis... vidis kako Libellus povecava cene iz broja u broj, pa ljudi i dalje kupuju...
a ove trgovacke marze i slicno, budimo realni... kojeg ce kupca to da zanima kako ste dosli do cene? sta je PDV a sta nesto drugo...
ko voli Daredevila - kupice! ko ne zna da li da krene sa Dardevilom ili Konanom, uzece mozda Konana zbog cene...
a sto Fibrina prva knjiga ima 160 strana, a englesko izdanje 224?
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Raven84
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:39:01
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quote: Originally posted by General Katana
ovo je duplo skuplje!
Nije. 17 Eura je 1.880 dinara, ili 127 kuna. Daredevil je 180 kuna i 150 kuna. Znaci nisu duplo skuplji. A vecina ima preko 300 stranica. |
Ima nešto u njemu proslijedeno od nepoznate majke i propala oca na sina. Kaljeno savješcu. Brušeno disciplinom. |
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General Katana
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:43:55
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jedan mali offtopic... kad je vec Markos tu...
sto greska u Ken Parker 79 nije ispravljena??
stranice 162 i 163 imaju zamenjene table...
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Rada13
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:46:52
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Uzimam ovo! Cijena je odlična s obzirom da je cover price visionaries trejda 30$, a još je u mekim koricama. Jedino bolje izdanje je marvelov omnibus koji je rasprodan odavno. Neću ih uzet sve od kolpa, ali se nadam da ću ih kroz 3 miseca uspit skupit. Marko svaka čast . A moga bi neko i slikat izdanje da vidimo kako izgleda uživo (je li format isti kao USA trejdovima?)  |
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Imrahil
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:48:16
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quote: Originally posted by Snake Plissken
No, da ne bude sad da je ovo upuceno Fibri i Marku - nije. Samo podsecam na Imrahilov obrazac zalbi "Mac je preskup, smanjite format, ako moze cena kao VC" i slicno, apropo price na DW forumu.
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Elesar
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 13:52:57
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quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
quote: Originally posted by Elesar Taman od onog sto ti pretekne nakon odustajanja od preskupog oversized Konana ;)
Aj nađi gde sam ja rekao da je Konan preskup? Cena je sjajna za ono što dobiješ, meni se format ne sviđa..
Mada, kapiram zašto si napisao ovo. Dovoljno je sabrati 2 i 2..
Pa eno, Snake ti lepo rece sta si govorio...i kakvu cenu trazio. Samim tim je jasno da ti je preskupo.
A glede sabiranja, prosvetli me. Samo primedba na osnovu uocavanja nekih stvari. |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 14:00:11
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quote: Originally posted by General Katana a ove trgovacke marze i slicno, budimo realni... kojeg ce kupca to da zanima kako ste dosli do cene? sta je PDV a sta nesto drugo...
To što nekoga ne zanima objašnjenje, ne znači da ono ne stoji. Sa 17.5 eura, koliko ja trenutno dobijem od prodaje, pokrivam se na preko 300 primjeraka. Ako bi spustio cijenu na 17 Eura, meni bi onda išlo 12, a u tom slučaju se pokrivam na 450. Neizvedivo.
quote: Originally posted by General Katana a sto Fibrina prva knjiga ima 160 strana, a englesko izdanje 224?
Nisam vidio izdanje, pa ne znam o čemu se radi, ali ne bih se čudio da je to neka greška kod njih. Nemam pojma, ne znam odakle im još 60 stranica više, kad sam strip ima 140. |
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Markos
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 14:04:06
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quote: Originally posted by General Katana
jedan mali offtopic... kad je vec Markos tu...
sto greska u Ken Parker 79 nije ispravljena??
stranice 162 i 163 imaju zamenjene table...
Da se primjetilo prije puštanja u prodaju, to bi imalo smisla. Ali primijetilo se - tj.- ti si primijetio, ako se ne varam - nakon nekoliko mjeseci kad je vec prodan priličan broj primjeraka. A onda je cijela stvar oko povlačenja i zamjene bitno kompliciranija i nema previše smisla. A pogotovo jer se radi o akcijskim scenama i da se skoro i ne primjeti greška. |
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General Katana
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 14:04:56
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quote: Originally posted by Markos Nisam vidio izdanje, pa ne znam o čemu se radi, ali ne bih se čudio da je to neka greška kod njih. Nemam pojma, ne znam odakle im još 60 stranica više, kad sam strip ima 140.
moguce...
jasno je u cemu je stvar sa cenama... ali s obzirom na kvalitet ponude, steta je sto nije dostupnije vecem broju ljudi...
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Markos
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 14:07:29
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quote: Originally posted by Rada13
Uzimam ovo! Cijena je odlična s obzirom da je cover price visionaries trejda 30$, a još je u mekim koricama. Jedino bolje izdanje je marvelov omnibus koji je rasprodan odavno. Neću ih uzet sve od kolpa, ali se nadam da ću ih kroz 3 miseca uspit skupit. Marko svaka čast . A moga bi neko i slikat izdanje da vidimo kako izgleda uživo (je li format isti kao USA trejdovima?) 
Format je 17x24, dakle 2 cm je niži. Ali budući da u američkim trejdovima imaju velike margine, crtež nije smanjivan. |
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General Katana
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 14:07:34
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Da se primjetilo prije puštanja u prodaju, to bi imalo smisla. Ali primijetilo se - tj.- ti si primijetio, ako se ne varam - nakon nekoliko mjeseci kad je vec prodan priličan broj primjeraka. A onda je cijela stvar oko povlačenja i zamjene bitno kompliciranija i nema previše smisla. A pogotovo jer se radi o akcijskim scenama i da se skoro i ne primjeti greška. [/quote]
pa kada sam tek sada stigao do kraja serijala...
dobro... zanemarljiva sitnica u odnosu na ceo serijal...
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Rada13
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 14:14:29
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Nisam vidio izdanje, pa ne znam o čemu se radi, ali ne bih se čudio da je to neka greška kod njih. Nemam pojma, ne znam odakle im još 60 stranica više, kad sam strip ima 140.
Ma radi se od dodatnom materijalu, neki script millerov (blind justice) skeniran na bilom papiru (50 str), 3-4 stranice koje nisu ušle u strip u koloru i bez, sketchevi, pin-up art, članak (esej) Anye Martin iz marvel magazinea o samom stripu, te naslovnice trejdova. ovo govorim za premiere hc izdanje koje iman doma.
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/03/2012 : 15:42:18
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Kada su u jednom intervjuu iz 80-ih pitali Huga Prata šta bi izdvojio u svetskom stripu kao kvalitetno, odgovorio je da postoji jedan sjajan američki autor Frenk Miler koji crta i piše Derdevila. Možda nekom bude značila ova preporuka.
Što se cene stripova tiče, odnosno problema kako doći do novca za sva izdanja koja vredi nabaviti, to jeste problem sa kojim će se mnogi suočavati.
Ja ne bih olako išao na više cene - sa ovim cenama ja se nadam da nabavim Derdevila (pored svega ostalog) u narednih 6-8 meseci. Ako bi cene bile još više, pošto sam veliki ljubitelj Milerovog Derdevila (na kome sam odrastao, opet,pored svega ostalog) verovatno bih ga i tada nabavio, ali možda u roku od dve godine. Ako Fibri nešto znači bolja prodaja, onda i politika cena mora da ima ulogu. |
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