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DOMI
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emirem
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Posted - 23/03/2013 : 16:48:28
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A sta ces ljudi su rekli istinu...i ja za ovu godinu rezem fond za stripove ... Bit ce bolje... |
"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!" |
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DOMI
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/03/2013 : 17:01:48
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i ja mislio rezat, kad krenuo Dylan u jesen (knjige), mali gnjavi za Zagor-kolorce, AF HC stalno izlazi, tu je i Marty M. (HC), Miki & Zagor KLASIK, Z-Maxi za sina itd itd... rješenje: par puta i revolving kartica za veće količine, ali sve ovo je jače od mene, pa... .. danak za umjetnost
44 godine Alan Forda u HR 
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• 54 god.Alan Forda u HR • Od 1970.-2017.izdana su 1063 broja (ukljucujuci Klasik, Super KL, Zlatni KL) • • Od 2022.Alan Ford u originalnim tablama formata 17x24 cm u novom kolekcionarskom TOP izdanju • |
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Spiderman
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Croatia
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Nivox
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Croatia
1314 Posts
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 00:08:23
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90 % kupujem kad su popusti, akcije...stare stripove, stripove s manjim oštečenjima i sl... |
Sve što zna za smrt, može se ponovo roditi! |
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Zagor12
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 00:10:08
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Ma stripovi su skup hobi već dugo vremena, a sad su još skuplji. Kupujem samo ono što me stvarno zanima. Jer svu lovu koju mi starci daju potrošim na sendviče i slične gluposti koje jedem dok sam u školi, zatim na ulaznice u klubove, s tim automatski i piće... Kiosk-stripove ću kupovati preko ljeta u kompletima kada budem imao više vremena (i para). |
Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti: http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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D.J.
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djule
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 08:35:44
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pa tužno,ali očekivano. prosječni skupljač stripova na mjesec bi iskeširao 100-200 kn(kolekcionare ne ubrajam). 100-200 kn u današnjem vremenu nije mali novac.
troškovi su sve veći dok tržište odnosno izdavaštvo ne prati trend,tj. situaciju koja se nalazi oko njih. naravno, ne krivim ih jer da spuste cijene(albumi i kiosk izdanja su zaista u ovom trenu preskupa za prosječnog građanina, a kamoli za nas kaj pratimo ipak i libellus i fibru i darkwood, uz kiosk izdanja ludensa i v.četvrtka) vjerovatno bi morali prekinuti sa tim poslom tak da smo u začaranom krugu neimaštine s jedne i druge strane.
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 09:38:48
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Potrošim recimo neku trećinu od ranije svote. Odustao od kiosk stripova (ne zanima me toliko), odustao od Amazona (lupili mi carinu). Kupim ponešto na aukcijama (manje nego ranije) i Stripovi na kvadrat povremeno (daju besplatnu poštarinu). |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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tronožac
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 11:31:33
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Stiče se utisak da su tri striparnice za Zagreb previše,biće da to utiče na promet.Beograd koji je možda duplo veći ima tek dve.
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 11:38:26
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quote: Originally posted by Nivox
90 % kupujem kad su popusti, akcije...stare stripove, stripove s manjim oštečenjima i sl...
Kod mene isti slučaj. Znan da to nije lipo napisat ali u striparnicama već godinama nisan kupija strip. |
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Spiderman
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 11:39:59
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quote: Originally posted by tronožac
Stiče se utisak da su tri striparnice za Zagreb previše,biće da to utiče na promet.Beograd koji je možda duplo veći ima tek dve.
Nema to veze koliko ih ima... dobro došla je konkurencija. Samo eto ima dosta LUKSUZNIH izdanja koja su SKUPA, nažalost... Strip više nije za mase nego samo za one koji imaju para. |
Moj strip Moje aukcije |
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Jasko
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 11:50:45
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quote: Originally posted by Spiderman
quote: Originally posted by tronožac
Stiče se utisak da su tri striparnice za Zagreb previše,biće da to utiče na promet.Beograd koji je možda duplo veći ima tek dve.
Nema to veze koliko ih ima... dobro došla je konkurencija. Samo eto ima dosta LUKSUZNIH izdanja koja su SKUPA, nažalost... Strip više nije za mase nego samo za one koji imaju para.
Koja su to luksuzna izdanja i zašto su skupa? Ako misliš na Libellus Bonelli to razumijem. Ako ne, cijenio bih odgovor na pitanje. |
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mamlaz
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 14:45:15
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quote: Originally posted by Nivox
90 % kupujem kad su popusti, akcije...stare stripove, stripove s manjim oštečenjima i sl...
potpuno isto i ja |
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Spiderman
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 15:00:20
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI Koja su to luksuzna izdanja i zašto su skupa?
Ustvari pitanje: Koliko ima izdanja da koštaju recimo manje od 50 kn?
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 17:37:48
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quote: Originally posted by Spiderman
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI Koja su to luksuzna izdanja i zašto su skupa?
Ustvari pitanje: Koliko ima izdanja da koštaju recimo manje od 50 kn?
Uživaj
A zašto bi koštali manje od 50 Kn? Šta bi ti? Integral od 250-300 strana za 50 KN??? To šta ti ili ja nemamo za takve stripove ne znači da su SKUPI, još manje da su LUKSUZNI. Objasni mi molin te šta je luksuzno u Comanche od SA ili Inkalu od Fibre. Neluksuzna izdanja istih tih stripova u izdanju System comicsa i Marketprinta koštaju više. Eto ti stripova za ispod 50 Kn po albumu. Neman ja šta uživat. Misliš da ne bi i ja te integrale za 50 Kn?
Ukratko, pišeš pizdarije. |
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boddhisatva
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 18:04:27
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Ne znam, ja ne čitam Bonnelijeva izdanja ni junake, kupim ono što me baš interesira ali i to rijetko na godinu i planski Ali sam u tom branši pa znam koja je situacija iz ove tzv. recesije neće se moći tek tako izvući tek prestajanjem kupovanja, treba i trošiti za one stvari do kojih je ljudima stalo kao duševnoj hrani pa će se tako i isti održati na tržištu i imati svoje korisnike U svijetu izdavaštva uvriježeno je da knjiga koja ima tvrde korice bude skuplja i luksuznija od one koja ima meke kartonske korice (tzv. paperback) Pa opet u svjetlu toga ne razumijem zašto izdavači uz stripove sa tvrdim koricama (da tek bubnem cijenu: 100 kn) ne bi izdavali paralelno i one sa mekim koricama (da bubnem cijenu 50 kn).... |
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Nivox
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 18:06:27
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by Nivox
90 % kupujem kad su popusti, akcije...stare stripove, stripove s manjim oštečenjima i sl...
Kod mene isti slučaj. Znan da to nije lipo napisat ali u striparnicama već godinama nisan kupija strip.
Ja kupujem u striparnicama, ali najčešće kad su popusti i akcije. U jednoj striparnici imam i stalnih 20%. Ono što čekam par godina i želim ćim prije imati, to kupim ćim izađe bez obzira na cijenu. No takve situacije su rijetke...tako sam recimo Betelgeuse odmah kupio, a tako ću i Antares. |
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boddhisatva
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 18:14:38
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[/quote] Ono što čekam par godina i želim ćim prije imati, to kupim ćim izađe bez obzira na cijenu. No takve situacije su rijetke...tako sam recimo Betelgeuse odmah kupio, a tako ću i Antares. [/quote]
što znači da je ova tzv. recesija zapravo i isprofilirala kupce da kupuju po interesima, a ne više sve to po brojevima, serijama i nakladama ... |
Pike Bishop: Let's go! Lyle Gorch: Why not? |
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Spiderman
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 18:27:51
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI A zašto bi koštali manje od 50 Kn? Šta bi ti? Integral od 250-300 strana za 50 KN??? To šta ti ili ja nemamo za takve stripove ne znači da su SKUPI, još manje da su LUKSUZNI. Objasni mi molin te šta je luksuzno u Comanche od SA ili Inkalu od Fibre. Neluksuzna izdanja istih tih stripova u izdanju System comicsa i Marketprinta koštaju više. Eto ti stripova za ispod 50 Kn po albumu. Neman ja šta uživat. Misliš da ne bi i ja te integrale za 50 Kn?
Ukratko, pišeš pizdarije.
Ja bi normalan strip a ne integrale. Dakle jedan strip jedan album a ne integrale.
ti pišeš pizdarije... skoro svi ste se povampirili oko tih integrala i luksuznih izdanja.
strip više nije za mase.
i ti pišeš pizdarije, prosim lepo.
a i eto ti odgovora gore ako pročitaš nekoliko postova
"kupujem stripove na akcijama, kada su popusti". jeboga ti onda idemo svi čekat akcije i popuste, dakle već u tom startu mogu biti barem 10-20 posto jeftiniji ako ih daju na akcijama i popustima. dakle ljudi čekajte akcije i popuste. |
Moj strip Moje aukcije |
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Colt
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 18:35:12
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quote:
Ja bi normalan strip a ne integrale. Dakle jedan strip jedan album a ne integrale.
ti pišeš pizdarije... skoro svi ste se povampirili oko tih integrala i luksuznih izdanja.
strip više nije za mase.
i ti pišeš pizdarije, prosim lepo.
a i eto ti odgovora gore ako pročitaš nekoliko postova
"kupujem stripove na akcijama, kada su popusti". jeboga ti onda idemo svi čekat akcije i popuste, dakle već u tom startu mogu biti barem 10-20 posto jeftiniji ako ih daju na akcijama i popustima. dakle ljudi čekajte akcije i popuste.
Svi uvek hoce popuste, bez obzira na cenu. I mnogo je lakse spustiti sa 25 evra na 22 nego sa 5 na 3,8 i tome slicno. 250-300 ljudi koji ce kupiti taj integral ili SBE knjigu od 25 evra ce se uvek naci i veliki izdavaci to znaju. |
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 18:35:25
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quote: Originally posted by Spiderman
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI A zašto bi koštali manje od 50 Kn? Šta bi ti? Integral od 250-300 strana za 50 KN??? To šta ti ili ja nemamo za takve stripove ne znači da su SKUPI, još manje da su LUKSUZNI. Objasni mi molin te šta je luksuzno u Comanche od SA ili Inkalu od Fibre. Neluksuzna izdanja istih tih stripova u izdanju System comicsa i Marketprinta koštaju više. Eto ti stripova za ispod 50 Kn po albumu. Neman ja šta uživat. Misliš da ne bi i ja te integrale za 50 Kn?
Ukratko, pišeš pizdarije.
Ja bi normalan strip a ne integrale. Dakle jedan strip jedan album a ne integrale.
ti pišeš pizdarije... skoro svi ste se povampirili oko tih integrala i luksuznih izdanja.
strip više nije za mase.
i ti pišeš pizdarije, prosim lepo.
To šta ti oćeš očito ne interesira nikoga. Nebitan si. Integrali su jeftiniji od pojedinačnih albuma i tu priča završava. I ja bi pojedinačne albume al su preskupi i koštaju cca 80 kn. U integralu me koštaju cca 50 Kn i to mi nije jeftino al je prihvatljivo. Možemo se ja i ti nadjebavat sa pričanjen pizdarija koliko oćemo, matematika je jednostavna i nemože se tumačit na više načina.
Tvoj problem nisu preskupi stripovi nego to šta nemaš posal. Ja bi volija da nije tako al nažalost ne mogu ti pomoć. |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 19:35:24
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quote: Originally posted by boddhisatva U svijetu izdavaštva uvriježeno je da knjiga koja ima tvrde korice bude skuplja i luksuznija od one koja ima meke kartonske korice (tzv. paperback) Pa opet u svjetlu toga ne razumijem zašto izdavači uz stripove sa tvrdim koricama (da tek bubnem cijenu: 100 kn) ne bi izdavali paralelno i one sa mekim koricama (da bubnem cijenu 50 kn)....
Ma nema dovoljno interesa. Mekane korice bi smanjile cijenu knjige za 20-tak kuna, a to nije dovoljno, ljudima će opet biti preskupo. Jedini način da se drastično smanji cijena su veliki tiraži, a za velike tiraže ti treba velika potražnja, a nje jednostavno nema. |
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Markos
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 19:42:25
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quote: Originally posted by Spiderman Ja bi normalan strip a ne integrale. Dakle jedan strip jedan album a ne integrale.
ti pišeš pizdarije... skoro svi ste se povampirili oko tih integrala i luksuznih izdanja.
strip više nije za mase.
i ti pišeš pizdarije, prosim lepo.
a i eto ti odgovora gore ako pročitaš nekoliko postova
"kupujem stripove na akcijama, kada su popusti". jeboga ti onda idemo svi čekat akcije i popuste, dakle već u tom startu mogu biti barem 10-20 posto jeftiniji ako ih daju na akcijama i popustima. dakle ljudi čekajte akcije i popuste.
Da, strip više nije za mase, tako je. Za to nisu krivi izdavači, nego mase. I što sad, budući da ne možemo izdavati strip po cijeni od 30 kuna po albumu, da ga potpuno prestanemo izdavati? Onda bolje ništa?
Kad već hoćeš pojedinačne jeftine albume, bađ me zanima koliko si npr. Bookglobeovih Lucky Lukeova kupio. Ili Gastona ZG naklade?
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Spiderman
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Posted - 24/03/2013 : 20:11:32
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@Markos: Da, mase su krive što izdavači žele stripove u HC izdanju jer to oni žele zbog sebe.
Prodao sam što sam imao jer eto recesija me stisla. Gastona nisam imao ni jednog to priznam. Lukeova sam imao i to sam prodao. I ne ne moraš se truditi pogledati u mojim aukcijama jer ne prodajem sve preko stripova.com
Pa izdavači imaju puna skladišta te ostatak čeka da budu neki popusti.
@Nesvrstani: Pa bili bi i jeftiniji ako ne gledaš HC izdanja. Ja govorim da kupac nema pravo birat jel želi SC, HC ili integral nego ono što mu ponudi izdavač. To je kao da sada država odredi da svi moramo voziti mercedese, a ja ne bi mercedes nego opel recimo.
To što ti želiš HC izdanja je tvoja stvar, moja stvar je što ja želim SC izdanja jer su jeftinija.
I ne mislim više komentirat jer svak' od nas ima svoju teoriju koja nigdje ne vodi.
Mislim kupovao sam i filmove originale koji su me zanimali pa mi je bilo svejedno jel su u kartonskom omotu ili u plastičnoj kutiji. Glavno je da je film na polici. Naravno da su ovi bez plastične kutije jeftiniji.
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