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Posted - 30/09/2014 : 00:01:01
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brzo brzo
nisam u toku
šta kaže RADIO MOSKVA ?
jel nadmeni Putin prisilio kievhuntu da položi oružje ?
amer kolko čujem moro angažovati sve svoje viđenije vazale u borbi protiv isilovaca
hehehe
američki ratni stratezi trebalo bi malo u rusiju doći na časove- nit bi obami huseinu bilo na odmet kod dobrog vladimira na savjete
da da
amer se vraća na mjesto zločina
pošto su se tek povukli- sa repom među nogama i opečeni- ovaj put kao pešadija poslužit će im umjerena sirijska oporba tu je i nestabilni bagdad i ostali arapi pod vodstvom SA- smjeurija
da smijeh bude grohotniji tu su u igri turci kao i kanada, engleska, fancuska, poljska, danska...
naravno bljedoliki saveznici će pomagati u borbi izdaleka
dok će arapi ginuti
hrabri Asad igra ključnu ulogu
vatra je sa ukrajine prelivena opet na siriju |
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dsormaz1
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Poli
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Posted - 30/09/2014 : 11:04:29
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Razgovor sa zapovjednikom kurdskih snaga u gradu Kobani, uz samu granicu sa Turskom, grad koji je vec od nedjelje obkoljen sa tri strane, a kakvo je danasnje (utorak) stanje, vjerjojatno nitko ne zna. Ovaj intervju je od nedjelje.
http://www.delo.si/svet/krize/trenutno-smo-bolj-ucinkoviti-od-ameriskih-letal.html
Najvece probleme imaju zbog slabog naoruzanja, dok je IS prejebeno naoruzan, plus sto ih koalicija ne tuce, nego tuce vise manje samo rafinerije, a i prije je tukla nekoliko vjezbovnih centara (sto vec znamo).
Zanimljiv je i njegov opis IS-ovaca, da se bore "kao zivotinje, totalno podivljani su, bez straha, i kada ih vecina padne, oni koji su jos zivi jos dalje napadaju, takvo nesto jos nisam vidio, ne poznaju milosti, rezu glave, medju njima ima dosta stranaca i ogromne kolicine najboljeg i najmodernijeg naoruzanja, imaju tenkove, helikoptere, oklopna vozila, topnistvo, sve." Dosta oruzja so pokupili kada su dosli u Mosul, a iracka vojska se povukla i za sobom ostavila ogromno kvalitetnog oruzja (kao sto vec znamo).
Opet ce Kurdi nastradati, a vjerujem da se Turcima zivo fucka za njih.
Ali posto se ne vidi cjeli clanak, jos slike:


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dsormaz1
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Posted - 30/09/2014 : 19:53:02
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U teškim borbama na granici Sirije i Iraka irački Kurdi uspjeli su ponovo zauzeti pogranični grad Rabiju (oko 100 km sjeverozapadno od Mosula). S druge strane granice snage IS-a pokušavaju potisnuti sirijske Kurde. Istovremeno se nastavljaju zračni napadi SAD i saveznika na ciljeve IS-a u Siriji i Iraku. Iračka vojska uspjela je zaustaviti napredovanje IS-a prema Bagdadu.
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Poli
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Posted - 30/09/2014 : 20:36:14
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zanimljiv komentar drugoga komentatora Alesa Kocjana (iz Dnevnika, ovaj Videmsek je iz Dela) na ovaj clanak http://www.delo.si/svet/krize/trenutno-smo-bolj-ucinkoviti-od-ameriskih-letal.html
"Cemu Videmsek ne zmore pojasniti, kaj je YPG?
To je protimperijalisticna kurdska stranka, blizu Ocalanove PKK, ki je od Asada prejela zagotovilo avtonomije in si je ves cas klavnice v Siriji prizadevala za nadzor nad ozemljem, kjer zivijo Kurdi.
Pri tem se je spopadala samo in zgolj z uporniki, islamisti, ki so masovno preckali tursko-sirsko mejo. Izuril in oborozil jih je Nato v bazi Incirlik pri mestu Adana.
YPG je torej Asadov zaveznik v tej vojni, zato je jasno, da pomoci zahodnih krvosesov za YPG ne bo. Ce hocejo ustanoviti kurdsko drzavo, ki bo atlanticisticno kukavicje jace v regiji, za kar je bil tudi ustanovljen grdi ISIS (v namen nacrtovane balkanizacije strateskega obmocja, ki je tranzitno obmocje za energente na poti do EU), se morajo odkrizati Kurdov protimperijalisticnega porekla.
Videmsek tudi ne blekne nicesar o tem, kako so YPG izdali iraski Kurdi, ki so najvecji zavezniki ZDA in Izraela, njihov vodja Barzani pa je iz stare cijaske familije. Ko je ISIS napadel iraske Kurde, so iz Sirije prisli borci YPG in oni so bili tisti, ki so opravili levji delez bojev proti ISIS v Iraku. Dejstvo.
Danes, ko ISIS napada YPG v Siriji, pa so iraski Kurdi stisnili rep med noge? Nobene pomoci za YPG? Vemo zakaj. Po navodilih ZDA in Izraela. Vemo zakaj Videmsek ne pise o tem. Po navodilih iz kluba Sorosevih novnarjev-potrckotov, ki sirijo atlanticisticno propagando.
Videmskova naloga je jadikovati s Kurdi, zdaj ko bodo tisti, ki pripadajo YPG nacrtno zrtvovani za kurdsko drzavo po okusu zahoda (brez YPG), pri tem pa prikriti ozadje in pravo sliko. Cista patetika."
U međuvremenu http://www.delo.si/svet/krize/v-siriji-umrl-slovenski-drzavljan.html
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Dranki
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Posted - 30/09/2014 : 21:23:20
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http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/29/how_the_us_concocted_a_terror
Vidjecete da ce na kraju americka vojska uci u istocnu Siriju, priznace neku vstu prelazne pobunjenicke vlade kojoj ce pripasti dio Sirije koji trenutno drze i osigurati nalazista gasa i nafte, jedna od prvih stvari u novom zakonu bice privatizacija nalazista i prodavanje koncesija za produkciju na licu mjesta a ne komisionu prodaju. |
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Edited by - Dranki on 30/09/2014 21:26:53 |
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Poli
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Posted - 30/09/2014 : 21:36:04
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Bas su strasna vojska ovi Turci, prave pickice. Granate im padaju na tursko tlo a oni nista. Strasni su. 
Valjda ih nije briga dok netko drugi osim njih samih gnjavi Kurde. 
Tu se i na snimki vidi kako pade IS granata na tursku stranu.
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lwood
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Posted - 30/09/2014 : 23:06:23
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
Bas su strasna vojska ovi Turci, prave pickice. Granate im padaju na tursko tlo a oni nista. Strasni su. 
Valjda ih nije briga dok netko drugi osim njih samih gnjavi Kurde. 
Tu se i na snimki vidi kako pade IS granata na tursku stranu.
ne znam čemu se čudiš. turska politika potajno priželjkuje da isil potamani kurde. al nije zanimljivo da su sad zatvorili granicu a dosad su primili 2 milijuna izbjeglica? ili je problem primit i dodatnih 100-150 000 kurda?  da ne pričamo koliko je isilovaca prošlo priko turske u siriju . a sad nešto ne puštaju pešmerge da prelaze i pomognu u obrani kobanija. |
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Poli
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Posted - 01/10/2014 : 08:49:02
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by Poli
Bas su strasna vojska ovi Turci, prave pickice. Granate im padaju na tursko tlo a oni nista. Strasni su. 
Valjda ih nije briga dok netko drugi osim njih samih gnjavi Kurde. 
Tu se i na snimki vidi kako pade IS granata na tursku stranu.
ne znam čemu se čudiš. turska politika potajno priželjkuje da isil potamani kurde. al nije zanimljivo da su sad zatvorili granicu a dosad su primili 2 milijuna izbjeglica? ili je problem primit i dodatnih 100-150 000 kurda?  da ne pričamo koliko je isilovaca prošlo priko turske u siriju . a sad nešto ne puštaju pešmerge da prelaze i pomognu u obrani kobanija.
Pa i ne cudim se bas, vise peesdim. 
Ono, kao Turska pomaze. Yeah, right. A najvise nafte ovi IS prodaju bas u Tursku, da i ne pricamo o "slobodnom setanju terorista" kroz Tursku. No, na kraju su ipak morali ili morat ce, zauzmeti neki "trsi" stav protiv tih koljaca. A mozda im i EU obecala ovo ono ...
Drukcije naravno da bi Turska najradije utopila ove Kurde u kasiki vode da moze. Jos bolje ako moze to netko drugi napraviti za nju.
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Posted - 01/10/2014 : 09:27:46
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quote: Originally posted by wolf
http://www.vecernji.hr/svijet/turska-spremna-za-kopneni-udar-na-dzihadiste-964340
Kako stvari stoje i Turci su izgleda odlučili malo potprašiti ove ISIL-ovce. Valjda neće kao slučajno koji projektil pasti među Kurde.
"Sada je već svima jasno da bi ulaskom u Siriju s tenkovima i kopnenom vojskom Erdogan jednim potezom ubio tri muhe – zauzeo područje Kurda koji sanjaju svoju državu, zaustavio džihadiste, što bi Amerikanci znali nagraditi, te se približiti svojem neprijatelju Al-Assadu."
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Posted - 01/10/2014 : 10:15:31
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http://www.jutarnji.hr/mobilna-aplikacija-povezuje-prosvjednike-u-hong-kongu/1223945/
" Prosvjedi u Hong Kongu ne posustaju. Prosvjednici, uglavnom studenti i građani okupljeni u grupu Occupy Central traže političku slobodu, a kineske vlasti, za sada, ne pronalaze način kako zaustaviti javni neposluh. Prosvjednici su odlično organizirani za što je velikom dijelom zaslužna jedna mobilna aplikacija. Naime, prosvjednici koriste FireChat – aplikaciju koja mobilne uređaje spaja u takozvanu 'mesh' mrežu . FireChat omogućava stvaranje bežične mreže koju je praktički nemoguće nadzirati i, što je puno važnije, prekinuti."
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Posted - 01/10/2014 : 12:10:48
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
quote: Originally posted by wolf
http://www.vecernji.hr/svijet/turska-spremna-za-kopneni-udar-na-dzihadiste-964340
Kako stvari stoje i Turci su izgleda odlučili malo potprašiti ove ISIL-ovce. Valjda neće kao slučajno koji projektil pasti među Kurde.
"Sada je već svima jasno da bi ulaskom u Siriju s tenkovima i kopnenom vojskom Erdogan jednim potezom ubio tri muhe – zauzeo područje Kurda koji sanjaju svoju državu, zaustavio džihadiste, što bi Amerikanci znali nagraditi, te se približiti svojem neprijatelju Al-Assadu."
i ko zna koga bi sve okrenija protiv sebe.  ne virujen da bi se ostali arapi oduševili da turci upadnu u siriju . |
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