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Dranki
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 10:21:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dranki a Private Message
1228:947 za Hillary "Wall Street" Clinton. Biće mrtva trka na kraju, kladimo se.

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tinton
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 10:28:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send tinton a Private Message
Odakle taj podatak? NYTimes kaže 1234:956 (bez Havaja i cijelog Washingtona).
Wikipedia (bez Havaja) kaže 1252:1015.
Mnogi otpisuju Sandersa, ali i ja mislim da ćemo pobjednika saznati tek 7. lipnja.

Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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Dranki
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 10:31:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dranki a Private Message
Glavnu riječ će imati super-delegati, koji obično glasaju za onog ko ima više regularnih glasova, ali 2008 su super-delegati "dezertirali" na Obaminu stranu i donijeli mu pobjedu.

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tinton
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 10:43:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send tinton a Private Message
Pa da, otišli su na Obaminu stranu jer je imao više pravih (pledged) delegata. Tako će valjda biti i opet, jedino ako, u slučaju Sandersove pobjede, oni odluče ostati na Clintoničinoj strani što bi praktički bila prevara.

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Dranki
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 10:52:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dranki a Private Message
Mada lično sam skeptičan da medju super-delegatima (uglavnom vodeći funkcioneri stranke, senatori, guverneri) postoji puno socijalista koji bi podržali Bernija. Ali trebalo bi da je za sve ove desetine godina u američkom kongresu stekao mnogo prijatelja.

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KRAS
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 10:54:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send KRAS a Private Message
Ma ajte.kome jos treba americki sanader...
Trump je sledeci predsednik..kladim se u jedan euro
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tinton
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 11:05:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send tinton a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dranki

Mada lično sam skeptičan da medju super-delegatima (uglavnom vodeći funkcioneri stranke, senatori, guverneri) postoji puno socijalista koji bi podržali Bernija. Ali trebalo bi da je za sve ove desetine godina u američkom kongresu stekao mnogo prijatelja.


Slažem se, ali isto tako vjerujem da će biti oprezni i neće tako lako ići protiv onoga što su izabrali ljudi jer bi im se moglo obiti o glavu. S druge strane, ako bude tako tijesno, stvarno bi superdelegati mogli odlučivati.

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Dranki
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 11:13:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dranki a Private Message
Washington Post i (ako se ne varam) New York Times su nedavno predložili Clintonovu za kandidata i otvoreno se stavljaju na njenu stranu, tako da otvoreno navijanje za nju ne iznenadjuje. Ali da idu tako daleko i manipulišu brojevima delegata koje je pojedini kandidat osvojio, to već prelazi u podlost. Clintonovoj već pripisuju glasove super-delegata, kao da znaju da za koga će oni glasati. Ali možda se već i zna, vjerujem da washingtonski jastrebovi već uveliko dogovaraju cijenu njihovih glasova.
Osim toga, postoji toliko prostora za manipulaciju glasovima da je to fenomen, pogotovo glasovima koje su osvojili kandidati koji su se povukli iz utrke.

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izivko
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 11:17:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message
Ne prođe li Clinton, uvijek mogu ponoviti izbore.

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Poli
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 12:04:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

Samo da se ne dogodi "dan crnog sunca" ... mislite da c veliki koncerni dozvoliti takvu pobjedu?




Breaking: Syrian Armed Forces liberate Palmyra
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-armed-forces-liberate-palmyra-2/ | Al-Masdar News


prije toga
Syrian Armed Forces encircle Palmyra as ISIL’s defenses collapse
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-encircles-palmyra-isils-defenses-collapse/ | Al-Masdar News


i za vrijeme ofanzive na Palmiru ponovno su pocela bockanja izmedju potpornik crnih i onih "umjerenih", u smislu da je sada vjecina SAA snaga prebacena kod Palmire i "umjereni" imaju sanse za napade juzno od Aleppa, ali da sigurno nece pokusati jer se samo jos IS bori protiv Assada ... i tako dalje




Syrian Army advances into ISIL’s heartland in east Hama
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-advances-isils-heartland-east-hama/ | Al-Masdar News


Turkish soldier killed in northern Iraq after Islamic State fires rockets: army
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-soldier-killed-northern-iraq-islamic-state-fires-rockets-army/ | Al-Masdar News


Islamic State dealt hefty body blow with death of top aide: officials
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/islamic-state-dealt-hefty-body-blow-death-top-aide-officials/ | Al-Masdar News


Tens of thousands of Yemenis mark a year of war, denounce Saudi-led offensive
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/tens-thousands-yemenis-mark-year-war-denounce-saudi-led-offensive/ | Al-Masdar News


A Jewish writer admits: We Israelis live in the shadow of an apartheid regime
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jewish-writer-admits-israelis-live-shadow-apartheid-regime-2/ | Al-Masdar News



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Poli
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 12:17:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message


SAA & Allies entered airport & dismantling IEDs (velika: http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/fbc9/joao8a3cxua8wl1zg.jpg)






What can we expect next following the liberation of Palmyra by the SAA and this crushing defeat for ISIS?

First of all, SAA will consolidate positions at Palmyra and make sure it's airport is ready-to use again soon.

SAA's next objective will be capture of Qaryatayn. With the fall of Palmyra, SAA is now able to advance SW + capture Busayri crossroads and other areas east of Qaryatayn. ISIS remnants SW of Palmyra are now in an untenable position. Qaryatayn will prob. fall swiftly.

Following the liberation of more areas near Palmyra, SAA will prob. continue its advance towards Deir Ezzor Governorate.



ISIL tried to use a VBIED to stop SAA advances today
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cei21GeWQAEXrXm.jpg



Al Mayadeen Live Streaming
https://youtu.be/04uzP251PoY




kako su iracke snage prosle godine izgubile (pobjegle) Ramadi, tako je i SAA izgubila Palmiru ... a kasnije su oba dva grada povracena ... pitanje, da li ih zaista nisu mogli obraniti (ipak nisu mala sela u pitanju), zar je stvarno bilo neophodno povuci se iz grada? za iracke snage bi jos nekako rekao, mada su trebali nesto nauciti iz Mosula, a SAA je tada bila nisko s moralom, svuda su gubili vise manje, tenkove su im tamanili svugdje ... a onda dosli Rusi, velika pomoc iz zraka, nova oklopna mehanizacja, boost morala ...



Syrian army command says Palmyra victory beginning of the end of ISIS
http://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/syria-forces-retake-palmyra-from-isis-in-major-symbolic-victory




Yemen conflict: Al-Qaeda ‘used surface-to-air missile’ to bring down Emirati fighter jet
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/yemen-conflict-al-qaeda-used-surface-to-air-missile-to-bring-down-emirati-fighter-jet-a6954671.html



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VALTER
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 15:05:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send VALTER a Private Message
http://www.jutarnji.hr/islamska-drzava-u-rasulu--dzihadisti-se-dali-u-bijeg-asadovi-vojnici-sada-u-potpunosti-kontroliraju-palmiru/1549557/

Hihihi! Više nisu 'režimske snage', sad su 'Asadovi vojnici'. Ipak ne smiju napisati da je Palmira oslobođena.
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Poli
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 18:56:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

Assad: Palmyra achievement proves army strategy more effective than US-led coalition efforts
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/assad-palmyra-achievement-proves-army-strategy-effective-us-led-coalition-efforts/ | Al-Masdar News


Airstrikes rain on Qaryatayn city as Syrian Army mobilizes to storm ISIS
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/airstrikes-rain-on-qaryatayn-city-syrian-army-storm-isis/ | Al-Masdar News


Reinforcements arrive from Palmyra as SAA gears up for Qaryatayn battle vs. ISIS – Map update
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/reinforcements-arrive-palmyra-saa-gears-qaryatayn-battle-vs-isis/ | Al-Masdar News



velika karta: http://i.imgur.com/GEk2L4F.jpg


i situcija pocetkom mjeseca, prije ofanzive
https://syriamaps.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/324.jpg



ISIS takes biggest loss ever as Syrian army reclaims Palmyra
http://www.businessinsider.de/isis-takes-biggest-loss-ever-as-syrian-army-reclaims-palmyra-2016-3






http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/veliki-teroristicki-napad-u-pakistanu-eksplozija-na-prostoru-gradskog-parka-u-lahoreu-preko-50-mrtvih-vecina-zrtava-su-zene-i-djeca/


http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/putinov-glasnogovornik-tvrdi-u-ratu-smo-s-anglo-saksonskim-medijima/


MORE THAN 1000 PEOPLE DETAINED IN 2 WEEKS ACROSS TURKEY
http://www.kurdishquestion.com/index.php/kurdistan/more-than-1000-people-detained-in-2-weeks-across-turkey.html





Peshmerga forces targeted ISIS positions at Mosul city with grad rockets today.
https://twitter.com/BaxtiyarGoran/status/713829934578450433/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Peshmerga commander: "19 Iraqi troops killed & 156 wounded in the 3-days-offensive against ISIS near Makhmour."
https://twitter.com/BaxtiyarGoran/status/714082853487771648



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Iraqi Soldiers Flee Again in Iraq Army’s First Mosul Operation
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/26/iraqi-soldiers-flee-again-in-iraq-army-s-first-mosul-operation.html


Chaos As Civilians Flee Anti-is Offensive Near Iraqs Mosul
https://www.riskmap.com/#/m/1576660/


ISIS executes 12 of its fighters’ relatives in Mosul
http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/isis-executes-12-fighters-relatives-mosul/


Iraqi army attempts to recapture Nineveh province
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/iraqi-army-attempts-recapture-nineveh-province-160327065237048.html


Peshmerga play supporting role in Iraqi army offensive on Makhmour villages
http://rudaw.net/InPicturesStory.aspx?pageid=204142






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Poli
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 19:18:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

zanimljivo
https://twitter.com/bjoernstritzel

mada ovo dolazi od jednog pro Nusra seronje



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izivko
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 20:03:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message
Tisuće Iračana u bijegu pred ofenzivom iračke vojske na IS

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/mossul-tausende-iraker-fliehen-vor-offensive-gegen-is-miliz-a-1084317.html

Zločesti Iračani!
Kako se usuđuju dirati IS

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lwood
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 20:55:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Ne prođe li Clinton, uvijek mogu ponoviti izbore.



bila bi baza da ih ponavljaju dok ne pobijedi

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Poli
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 21:03:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

ma zamisli, zele potjerat teroriste iz svoje drzave, kakava drskost
i sad kao Mosulcani pate, a kada je Mosul pao nisu?? pa samo se zale cjelo vrijeme, a sada opet bjeze. ajde da bar na vrijeme odnesu pete iz Mosula, ne bih htio ostati u gradu kada stignu ...



Putin congratulates Assad on retaking Palmyra
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/putin-congratulates-assad-retaking-palmyra/ | Al-Masdar News





Valtere, samo stavljaj analize iz Advancea, pogotovo jer su na voljo samo pretplatnicima

a sto se tice duzine postova, pa ... malo glupo mi je da stavljam jedan clanak u jedan post, pa i max 2-3 mi se cini pomalo "nabijanje postova", ali slazem se da mozda ovako kako radim nije najpreglednije, pogotovo za one koji samo povremeno dođu i na brzinu pogledaju ...

drukcije se trudim da stavim slicne vijesti zajedno, kada stignem


zbog duzine vidim da se neke stvari/vijesti i previde pa se isti link odnosno ista vijest stavlja 2 ili 3 puta, ajde da bar netko pokomentira ...
a svaki clanak ovdje je zapravo copy/paste, pa necu samo stavljati tekstove bez linkova, a debata oko Sirije i SAA/YPG/SDF vs IS/JN/FSA se nekako ne pokrene


drukcije mi nije namjera rusiti debate ali ... hebiga, rat ne ceka, a Kras je otvorio ovaj topic zbog Sirije & co. pa ...


danas se stvarno skoro sve vijesti prvo pojave na twitteru (i mozda jos kojim drugim mjestima na netu), pa kad skuzis koji so dosta realni ... mada se jos uvijek dogodi nesto poput ove patke od petka navecer, kada su odjednom sa svih strana krenule vijesti da su vec oslobodili zracnu luku ... ili se netko iz vojske nasalio ili je bilo namjerno ...




idemo dalje





SAA/NDF captured Muntar Al-Rumailah hills and now 1,5 km away from Al-Qaryatayn
The SAA artillery and airstrikes are now hitting ISIS terrorists in al-Qaryatayn town, which in southwest of Palmyra




In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html


Russian military to take part in demining in Palmyra
http://tass.ru/en/world/865402



treba nekako pozdraviti one koji ih financiraju










Watch how Palmyra's residents Welcomes The Syrian Army after smashing ISIS
dobro, cini se kao "jeftina" propaganda, ali ...









Jordan's king accuses Turkey of sending terrorists to Europe
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/jordans-king-accuses-turkey-sending-terrorists-europe-1687591648



Syrian Army seizes strategic Air Defence Base in eastern Damascus – Map update
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-seizes-strategic-air-defence-base-eastern-damascus/ | Al-Masdar News






juzni Aleppo, Tel Eis area






izivljavanje turskih pajkana u Ankari,


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Dranki
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 21:06:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dranki a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Tisuće Iračana u bijegu pred ofenzivom iračke vojske na IS

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/mossul-tausende-iraker-fliehen-vor-offensive-gegen-is-miliz-a-1084317.html

Zločesti Iračani!
Kako se usuđuju dirati IS



Sada bi zapadni mediji trebali reći kako zli Amerikanci i iračka vojska izazivaju novi talas izbjeglica ka Evropi.

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lwood
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 21:19:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message
http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/video-smrtonosni-napad-ispred-parka-u-lahoreu

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Poli
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Posted - 27/03/2016 : 22:43:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

Syrian Army liberates several sites near the strategic city of Quraytayn
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-liberates-several-sites-near-strategic-city-quraytayn/ | Al-Masdar News



Army chiefs from the Saudi-led Coalition meet in Riyadh
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/army-chiefs-saudi-led-coalition-meet-riyadh/ | Al-Masdar News



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Dranki
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Posted - 28/03/2016 : 06:50:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dranki a Private Message
Nedavno emitovani doku o S. Arabiji, od 37:30 o ulozi Sarajeva.


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Risar_69
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Posted - 28/03/2016 : 09:12:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message
Za ovaj poklon žrtvama napada u Belgiji.
Dogadaj u Bruslju nije logičan. Ako se netko dodje pokloniti žrtvama i izraziti protest protiv Isilu, čovjek bi očekivao, da če ovi huligani doči sa ružama i svečama. Kraj kraja, ni neki neprijateljski natpis ne bi bio moteč.
Inače je Isil(i oni što stoje za njim)več postigao svoje. Razdelio je ljudstvo, strah, omejen-ograničen prost pretok ljudi i omejevanje-ograničenje prava u ime varnosti-bezbedjenja.

Kad pocneš crtati, uvek moraš imati na kraju olovke, srce, ruku i misli!

Edited by - Risar_69 on 28/03/2016 09:16:22
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Druga strana rata. Veoma eksplicitan sadržaj: ne +18, nego +21, a i to za one sa jakim živcima.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4bb_1459115140

Što bi se reklo: oko za oko, pasta za zube...
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/18/the-media-are-misleading-public-syria/8YB75otYirPzUCnlwaVtcK/story.html

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What comes after Palmyra?
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/what-comes-after-palmyra/ | Al-Masdar News


Ban Ki-moon welcomes the Syrian Army’s liberation of Palmyra
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ban-ki-moon-welcomes-syrian-armys-liberation-palmyra/ | Al-Masdar News


http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/sirijsko-vojno-zapovjednistvo-nakon-pobjede-u-palmiri-isil-se-pocinje-raspadati/


http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/prve-fotografije-iz-oslobodene-palmire-najpoznatiji-spomenici-su-nestali-zauvijek-no-dio-svjetske-bastine-ipak-je-spasen-od-kulturocidnog-isil-a/


http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/putinov-glasnogovornik-tvrdi-u-ratu-smo-s-anglo-saksonskim-medijima/



Russian Air Force flattens ISIL’s main fuel depot in southeast Homs
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-air-force-flattens-isils-main-fuel-depot-southeast-homs/ | Al-Masdar News



Female suicide bomber attacks Syriac church in northern Syria
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/female-suicide-bomber-attacks-church-northern-syria/ | Al-Masdar News



Top Emirati court sentences 11 ISIL members to life terms
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/emirati-court-sentences-11-isil-members-life-terms/ | Al-Masdar News



Syrian Army unearths massive tunnel in Greater Damascus after repelling Nusra: video
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-unearths-massive-tunnel-harasta-repelling-nusra/ | Al-Masdar News



Iraqi Armed Forces kills 2 high ranking ISIS emirs in central Iraq
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraqi-air-force-kills-top-isis-emir-central-iraq/ | Al-Masdar News


Saudi Army offensive in Hajjah ends in disaster as the Houthis maintains control
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/saudi-army-offensive-hajjah-ends-disaster-houthis-maintains-control/ | Al-Masdar News


Landmine explosion kills 5 soldiers in east Egypt
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/landmine-explosion-kills-5-soldiers-east-egypt/ | Al-Masdar News



Houthi forces exchange 9 Saudi soldiers for 109 Yemenis
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthi-forces-exchange-9-saudi-soldiers-109-yemenis/ | Al-Masdar News




The Eagles of the Whirlwind
A militia allied with the Syrian government is gaining ground and popularity. But it’s not just fighting to preserve President Bashar al-Assad’s state – it’s trying to redraw the borders of the Middle East.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/28/the-eagles-of-the-whirlwind/



5 people were killed following car bomb explosion in Sarmada in Idlib countryside near the Turkish border
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/714128533270896640



akcije u Palmiri ... ISIS fighters obliterated by ATGM during capture of Palmyra (kod 2:20)






More footage from Palmyra airport, showing around 20 ISIS bodies and IED factory in one of the HAS.
https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/714211932769808384



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