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VALTER
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 01:06:59
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Ovako; Posto ja ne zalazim na ovaj topic, ali neki momci su mi poslali privatne poruke da se ovdje razvlaci moje ime, na to me upozirili i dali mi krasne pismene podrske koje su me priznajem, jako obradovale,(hvala momci, vi znate tko ste!), potrebno je par rijeci; Nedavno sam pretrpio, ne i otrpio strasan nacionalisticki ispad. No u dogovoru sa noderatorima i vlasnikom sitea, zamoljen sam na nereagiranje, te kompromis. Sto cu ispostivati, i 'podvuci rep'. No kao sto rock' n roll nije samo stav, vec smisao i cijelozivotni put, tako je i borba protiv svakog oblika fasizma nesto sto nosis u sebi, te nikad ne prestaje. Jer kako nas uci, povijest, uciteljica zivota, dovoljno je da normalni svakodnevni 'mali' covjek ostane sa strane i nista ne uradi/kaze/ukaze da bi zlo i zla svih vrsta buknula. (Sad kad promislim, vidi vraga, jos nisam vidio ni cuo za rokera sa desnim stavovima) Tako da nista nije gotovo, nikad, ta borba ne staje niti ce ikad prestati. Fasistima i inima pod njihivim skutima jasno porucujem; NO PASARAN! valceru, tek porucujem; Libellus! Toliko, posto se i jucer navecer mene spominjalo... |
Los cukar na fritulama! |
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RAKOSI4
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 01:30:56
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Tebi je stalno pederluk na pameti. Izađi iz ormara pa će biti lakše
VALTERU mili u ormaru sigurno se žiliš Dok dođeš do mašine, nesta vazeline Zato stisni zube i šuti dok te drugar g... |
Edited by - RAKOSI4 on 24/03/2019 01:39:22 |
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lwood
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Colombia
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vukozec
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 12:48:28
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quote: Originally posted by ivanl
(Sad kad promislim, vidi vraga, jos nisam vidio ni cuo za rokera sa desnim stavovima)
Ted Nugent, Jesse Hughes, Bora Čorba, Koja iz Đubriva je isto sumnjiv, a neki bi rekli da je MPT isto roker, itd... |
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wesskowaz
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Serbia
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verab
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 13:16:47
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ništa sumnjivo u vezi Koje, lik je navijen desno do pucanja po šavovima... do nivoa karikature, doslovno. |
hejt, jal & rock 'n' roll |
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vice
stripovi.com suradnik
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vukozec
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stinky
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Croatia
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morski
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2650 Posts
Member since 09/08/2014 |
Posted - 24/03/2019 : 14:23:44
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_black_metal
National Socialist black metal (also known as NSBM, Aryan black metal or Neo-Nazi black metal), is a political philosophy within black metal music that promotes Nazism or similar ideologies. NSBM artists typically combine neo-Nazi ideology with ethnic European paganism and opposition to "foreign" religions such as Christianity, Islam and Judaism. However, some artists are Satanists or occultists, rather than pagans. NSBM is not seen as a distinct genre, but as a neo-völkisch movement within black metal. According to Mattias Gardell, NSBM musicians see this ideology as "a logical extension of the political and spiritual dissidence inherent in black metal".[1]
Although there is an undercurrent of ethnic nationalism in black metal,[2][1][3] NSBM artists are a small minority within the genre.[1][4] Many NSBM artists are not very explicit with their political beliefs in the music, instead expressing their beliefs offstage.[5] Artists who hold far-right or White nationalist beliefs but do not express these in their music are not often deemed 'NSBM' by the greater black metal scene, but may be labelled as such in the media.[6]
Some black metal bands have also made references to Nazi Germany purely for shock value, much like some punk rock and heavy metal bands. While some black-metallers boycott NSBM artists, many are indifferent or appreciate the music without supporting the musicians.[7] However, according to Christian Dornbusch and Hans-Peter Killguss, the writers of Unheilige Allianzen, völkisch pagan metal and neo-Nazism are the current trends in black metal, and in turn are affecting the broader metal scene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_music
White power music is music that promotes white nationalism. It encompasses various music styles, including rock, country, experimental music and folk.[1][2] Ethnomusicologist Benjamin R. Teitelbaum argues that white power music "can be defined by lyrics that demonize variously conceived non-whites and advocate racial pride and solidarity. Most often, however, insiders conceptualized white power music as the combination of those themes with pounding rhythms and a charging punk or metal-based accompaniment."[3] Genres include Nazi punk, Rock Against Communism, and National Socialist black metal.[2]
Barbara Perry writes that contemporary white supremacist groups include "subcultural factions that are largely organized around the promotion and distribution of racist music."[4] According to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission "racist music is principally derived from the far-right skinhead movement and, through the Internet, this music has become perhaps the most important tool of the international neo-Nazi movement to gain revenue and new recruits."[5][6] An article in Popular Music and Society says "musicians believe not only that music could be a successful vehicle for their specific ideology but that it also could advance the movement by framing it in a positive manner."[1]
Dominic J. Pulera writes that the music is more pervasive in some countries in Europe than it is in the United States, despite some European countries banning or curtailing its distribution.[2] European governments regularly deport "extremist aliens", ban white power bands and raid organizations that produce and distribute the music.[2] In the United States, racist music is protected freedom of speech in the United States by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism
Rock Against Communism (RAC) was the name of white power rock concerts in the United Kingdom in the late 1970s and early 1980s.[1] The lyrics usually focus on racism and antisemitism, though this depends on the band.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Neo-Nazi_musical_groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-Nazi_bands
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vukozec
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Tonka24
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 15:15:58
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quote: Originally posted by RAKOSI4
I VALTER da ih češka jezičinom po j....a
Kolega, hvala ali budi miran. Ako ne primiš paket on se vraća pošiljatelju. |
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RAKOSI4
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Tonka24
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RAKOSI4
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Posted - 25/03/2019 : 06:23:39
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quote: Originally posted by Tonka24
Krivo si shvatio. Mislio sam na Valtera ne na tebe.
Vraćam post kakvi je bija prvi put . |
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
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Posted - 25/03/2019 : 09:35:48
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quote: Originally posted by stinky
ovi su malo žešći: heidegger, hamsun, celine, pound... i ognjište mile budaka!!!
stinky, jesu li ti ovo uzori? |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 25/03/2019 : 10:48:15
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quote: Originally posted by vukozec
quote: Originally posted by ivanl
(Sad kad promislim, vidi vraga, jos nisam vidio ni cuo za rokera sa desnim stavovima)
Ted Nugent, Jesse Hughes, Bora Čorba, Koja iz Đubriva je isto sumnjiv, a neki bi rekli da je MPT isto roker, itd...
MPT je roker, kao sto Judas Priest svira slagere. Jbt. Dordevica skroz smetnuo s uma...a jesmo ga volili nekad i hodocastili. Odmah poslije Stulica. Sad jest, da je i onda Johnny bio u velikoj prednosti pred Borom u kvaliteti, ali jako smo ga cijenili. Pamtim dva nenadjebiva koncerta Corbe u Splitu, prvi na Gripama i masovne makljaze s milicijom na 'Pogledaj dom svoj andele', kad je cak Bora morao prekinuti pjesmu i smirivati situaciju, i drugi ispred Dalme, kad je roknula kisa, i svi pobjegli ispod onih nadstresnica gdje su zgrade i ducani...a Corba nije stala svirati, vec je Bora pozvao sve nazad, 'jer kad moze oni da pevaju i sviraju moze i publika'...jbt. i svi se vratili i 'bengali' po kisi. Neopisivo. A onda je poceo srati, i doslo je neko drugo vrijeme...jedan moj poznanik ga vidio na aerodromu u Frankfurtu i prisao mu, kaze jbg Boro nes' nikad vise u Hrvatsku, a?..a on ga pita; odakle si dete? Iz Splita kaze prika, a Bora ce; mnogo sam srao dete, mnogo... Nego nisam znao za Teda Nugenta. Jbt. on mi je bio car za scenski nastup s onim pecinskim izgledom i svirkom. Sto je on srao? P.s. Bas mi je Lav, basist iz Dubriva dao snimku sa tog Corbinog koncerta ispred Dalme. Postoji tonski zapis, to mi je bilo nevjerovatno uzbudljivo, nakon tih svih desetljeca, cuti taj antologijski koncert kojeg sam pohodio. Jbg. Koju ne znam. Znam samo Koju iz Discipline kicme, jednom sam im u Dobovi, Slo, postavljao stage, i radio na ulazu. |
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Edited by - ivanl on 25/03/2019 10:57:44 |
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tinton
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Tonto
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solar
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VALTER
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wesskowaz
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solar
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stinky
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Posted - 25/03/2019 : 14:36:31
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
quote: Originally posted by stinky
ovi su malo žešći: heidegger, hamsun, celine, pound... i ognjište mile budaka!!!
stinky, jesu li ti ovo uzori?
heidegger je super, on jest moj učitelj mišljenja ne mogu reći uzor, jer malo koga shvaćam kao uzor, a da bi mi bio uzor moram znati ili vidjeti cjelinu, čitavog čovjeka. jednostavno ne znam dovoljno o heideggeru da bi mi on bio uzor.
ovi ostali mi nisu ni uzori ni učitelji, premda sam svojedobno bio oduševljen Putovanjem nakraj noći. sada već vidim neka ograničenja tog romana, ali i dalje je to odlično napisano. |
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