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Ignus
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Posted - 27/04/2015 : 19:21:42
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Corto Maltese Blueberry Bone Sillage Plave bluze Usagi Yojimbo Navis Fort Wheeling Lucky Luke Mladi Blueberry Theodore Poussin Murena Ramiro Iznogud Blacksad Lincoln Largo Winch Durango UW1 Lincoln Maslin Granko Asterix Marshall Blueberry Conan Nataša |
Zar nitko nece pomoci udovicinu sinu? |
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mladjo
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Posted - 27/04/2015 : 19:56:56
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quote: Originally posted by drogsy
quote: Originally posted by split85
quote: Originally posted by vknez
nema 25 vrijednih
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A da? Zato što vam se ne sviđaju stripovi koje izdaju ili zato što iste ne izdaje netko kompetentan (čitaj fibra)?
Pa dobro, nemaju ni meni 25 vrijednih. Evo, nabrojao sam 16 na svojoj listi s tim da sam brojao i npr. Largo Wincha i Duranga koje su izdali samo jedan broj. Mislim, imam hrpu njihovih izdanja (sve kaj sam naveo na popisu) ali me dosta toga i ne zanima. Ha to je i normalno, različite ljude zanimaju različite stvari |
COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero
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jang
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Posted - 27/04/2015 : 20:02:45
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ima Bookglobe sjajnih naslova, neke je izgurao do kraja ali mnoge tko zna kad čemo vidjeti završene. Išlo se previše u širinu, tko zna zbog čega |
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Vlatko C.
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Posted - 27/04/2015 : 20:27:48
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Ja ću malo skratiti listu.
1. Corto Maltese 2. Rabinov mačak 3. Brodolomci vremena 4. Pustinjske škorpije 5. Blacksad 6. Blueberry 7. XIII 8. Fort Wheeling 9. Kolekcija Martina Trenca 10.Morgan
S tim da Corta Maltesea odvajam svjetlosnu godinu iznad svih ostalih. |
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trolodtroje
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Posted - 27/04/2015 : 20:54:13
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1 Blueberry 2 Mladi Blueberry 3 Marshall Blueberry 4 XIII 5 Brodolomci vremena 6 KGB 7 Samurai 8 Belladone 9 Kookaburra 10 Sillage 11 Bijela Tigrica 12 Navis 13 Giacomo 14 UW1 15 Asterix 16 Gil Jourdan 17 Bruce J. Hawker 18 Bruno Brazil 19 Luc Orient 20 Ramiro 21 Largo Winch 22 Plave Bluze 23 Blacksad 24 Brončano doba 25 Nataša
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 27/04/2015 : 22:16:17
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quote: Originally posted by trolodtroje
1 Blueberry 2 Mladi Blueberry 3 Marshall Blueberry 4 XIII 5 Brodolomci vremena 6 KGB 7 Samurai 8 Belladone 9 Kookaburra 10 Sillage 11 Bijela Tigrica 12 Navis 13 Giacomo 14 UW1 15 Asterix 16 Gil Jourdan 17 Bruce J. Hawker 18 Bruno Brazil 19 Luc Orient 20 Ramiro 21 Largo Winch 22 Plave Bluze 23 Blacksad 24 Brončano doba 25 Nataša
Nešto mi govori da ti je Blueberry najdraži junak?  
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trolodtroje
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anto
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 12:23:50
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quote: Originally posted by split85
quote: Originally posted by vknez
nema 25 vrijednih
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Meni je Bookglobe jedan od najboljih i najomiljenijih izdavača,iako ga je danas bolje nazvati Bukglib;izbor stripova mi je sjajan,mada je kvalitet albuma promenljiv (prevod,boje,...). BG albuma imam najviše posle Fibrinih,i nikako se ne slažem da nema 25 vrednih naslova;a pogotovu što neki naslovi imaju po deset,dvadeset i više albuma.
Na mojoj listi sam možda "isilovao" zadnjih pet naslova,ali to je zato što mnnogo toga nisam ni čitao,a verujem da bi te stripove sigurno uvrstio sa uživanjem u top listu da sam bio u prilici da ih čitam - kao Rabinovog mačka,Murenu,Teodor Pusina,Bronzano doba,Duranga,Krapinjonce,Ana iz džungle,...
Neverovatno mi je žao što neke serijale BG verovatno neće nastaviti (Usagi,Linkoln,Žil Žurdan,Nataša,...) i činjenica je da je ovaj izdavač poprilično uprskao stvar sa megalomanskim pokretanjem bezbroj različitih serijala,ali ipak im hvala na izdavanju toliko sjajnih stripova. |
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anto
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 12:38:14
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
Hm ... zapravo nemam niti jedan jedini strip u BG izdanju. 
zajebavaš????????????
quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Nemam ni ja ali bih sigurno imao Blueberryja da su ga izdavali u drugačijem formatu.
prijatelju,ne zameri,ali ovu izjavu bih proglasio "najglupljim postom meseca"!
BG je izdao Bluberija u najboljoj mogućoj varijanti koja dolikuje ovom genijalnom serijalu - integrali su nužno zlo;zbog cene,ritma izdavanja,...Sa obzirom da je izdavač kompletirao sve albume,nema mu se šta zameriti. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 13:06:17
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Već sam rekao da mi se ne sviđaju albumi od nekoliko listova i zašto bi to bilo glupo. Imam 3 dobra razloga za to: 1. cijena je u većini slučajeva napucana do maksimuma (a Bookglobe tu prednjači) a meni se ne daju takvi iznosi (mislim, kako se ono popularno kaže; imam ali ne dam). 2. ne znam više kuda bih sa stripovima zbog pomanjkanja prostora a nekakva hrpetina pojedinačnih albuma sigurno neće pomoći u tome. 3. kao što sam već rekao, nema ništa bolje nego u rukama držati jednu debelu... hm, knjigu, a što drugo.
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 13:07:01
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Postoji taj snobizam među strip-čitateljstvom (ili "strip-čitateljstvom"), koji kaže da su stripovi koje izdaje Fibra ("samo dobri stripovi") apriori vrijedni(ji), art i "cool", baš onako po mjeri za čitanje stripovskih ljepoduha i onih koji kao drže do svog ukusa, pa je čitanje Fibrinih stripova "hoch" i "in", jer to je, je li, prava umjetnost.
S druge strane tu su Strip-agent i Bookglobe po kojima se može pljuckati, dapače to je i poželjno, jer oni izdaju komercijalu, klasike koji danas kao nisu (dovoljno) zanimljivi (nisu "in" i "hoch"), pa su idealni za omalovažavanje s visina malograđanske kulturne snobovštine.
No oni koji to rade ili ne razumiju ili ne žele razumjeti, a možda to nisu ni u stanju, da se barem 80 % SA i BG kataloga izvrsno uklapa u Fibrin izdavački profil, od Lincolna i svega Prattovog preko Theodorea Poussina i Blueberryja do Usagija i Bonea.
Ali jebi ga, Fibra je umjetnost a SA i BG nisu, čitanje Fibrinih stripova dođe nešto kao dokaz više intelektualne razine a BG-a i SA-a valjda niže, baš kao i Libellusa koji je, je li, "samo za fanove Bonellija" koji su prema takvima opet niža vrsta, a tu je negdje i Darkwood.
Utješno je, međutim, što oni s takvim stavovima zapravo ne čitaju nikakve stripove, niti ih strip kao takav osobito zanima. To je otprilike kao nekad kad su se kupovali kompleti Dostojevakog, Tolstoja i Krleže uvezeni u kožu, jer dobro izgledaju u regalu dnevnog boravka i jer su dokaz nečije intelektualnosti, iskaznice "građanstva" i "kultiviranosti", dok vlasnici za samu književnost nisu marili.
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anto
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 13:58:11
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da se nadovežem na Džonija,citirajući kolegu Aleksa :
... su dela popularne kulture vrlo često superiornija od kvaziumetničkih nazoviautorskih, dosadnih, pretencioznih i često zanatski nepotkovanih nebuloza i smaračina.
Ako ne priznaješ da je tako, onda bar prihvati da sfera interesovanja svih nije ista, ne zbog linija manjeg otpora i "pustanja mozga na pašu" nego različitih senzibiliteta, kako konzumenata, tako i stvaralaca. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
Edited by - anto on 28/04/2015 13:59:11 |
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thekide
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 13:58:25
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
Ali jebi ga, Fibra je umjetnost a SA i BG nisu, čitanje Fibrinih stripova dođe nešto kao dokaz više intelektualne razine a BG-a i SA-a valjda niže, baš kao i Libellusa koji je, je li, "samo za fanove Bonellija" koji su prema takvima opet niža vrsta, a tu je negdje i Darkwood.
Zaboravio si da pomeneš da s vremena na vreme i Fibra zna da ih naljuti, kao kad je objavila "Jastreba" ili sad "Treći zavjet", jer su to komercijalni naslovi i nisu na zadovoljavajućem intelektualnom nivou. |
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anto
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 14:01:26
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ovo za Treći zavet si omašio loptu;već sam napisao na šta smo mislili Ignus i ja kad smo rekli da se baš i ne uklapa u profil Fibrinih stripova |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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anto
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 14:07:35
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Već sam rekao da mi se ne sviđaju albumi od nekoliko listova i zašto bi to bilo glupo. Imam 3 dobra razloga za to: 1. cijena je u većini slučajeva napucana do maksimuma (a Bookglobe tu prednjači) a meni se ne daju takvi iznosi (mislim, kako se ono popularno kaže; imam ali ne dam). 2. ne znam više kuda bih sa stripovima zbog pomanjkanja prostora a nekakva hrpetina pojedinačnih albuma sigurno neće pomoći u tome. 3. kao što sam već rekao, nema ništa bolje nego u rukama držati jednu debelu... hm, knjigu, a što drugo.
1.Albumi Bluberija ne koštaju ništa više nego drugi klasični albumi (A4,boja,HC,46-64 stranica) ostalih izdavača - ne računajući na nove LL francuze (Spirou,Riđobradi,Sužanjstvo) koji su priča za sebe.
2.Izbaci Marka,Bleka i Mikija iz kolekcije i imaćeš prostora ne samo za Bluberija.
3.svakako da integrali imaju svoje prednosti; i meni više prijaju za čitanje ,iako je logičnije da su obični albumi lakše za "baratanje" tokom čitanja. |
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izivko
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 14:53:18
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1. Blueberry 2. Murena 3. Asterix 4. Durango 5. Buddy Longway 6. Jonathan Cartland 7. Lucky Luke 8. UsagiUsagi 9. Blacksad 10. Samurai 11. Rabinov mačak 12. Plave bluze 13. Ramiro 14. Bruce J. Hawker 15. XIII 16. Fort Wheeling 17. Iznogud 18. Bijela tigrica 19. Umpah-Paha 20. Ana iz džungle 21. Garfield 22. Colby 23. Otok Bourbon 1730 24. Bone 25. Sillage |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 14:59:05
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quote: Originally posted by anto 1.Albumi Bluberija ne koštaju ništa više nego drugi klasični albumi (A4,boja,HC,46-64 stranica) ostalih izdavača - ne računajući na nove LL francuze (Spirou,Riđobradi,Sužanjstvo) koji su priča za sebe.
Ne uzimam pojedinačne albume ni drugih izdavača, sva sreća da Libellus gura Thorgala 3/1 (iako bih ja to napravio 5/1) i to je već na nekakvom rubu isplativosti (čak i po promo cijeni, puna ne dolazi u obzir). Velika želja mi je Riđobradi u nekakvoj integral izvedbi jer mi se ne daje 100 kn za album od 48 stranica. quote: 2.Izbaci Marka,Bleka i Mikija iz kolekcije i imaćeš prostora ne samo za Bluberija.
Oni su već izbačeni sa polica i nalaze se većinom po kutijama i vrećicama, na policama se većinom sjaje HC-ovi pa nema mjesta za kiosk izdanja. quote: 3.svakako da integrali imaju svoje prednosti; i meni više prijaju za čitanje ,iako je logičnije da su obični albumi lakše za "baratanje" tokom čitanja.
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trolodtroje
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 16:23:02
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
To je otprilike kao nekad kad su se kupovali kompleti Dostojevakog, Tolstoja i Krleže uvezeni u kožu, jer dobro izgledaju u regalu dnevnog boravka i jer su dokaz nečije intelektualnosti, iskaznice "građanstva" i "kultiviranosti", dok vlasnici za samu književnost nisu marili.
Možda se ne svrstavam u gornju grupu, ali svejedno - moram da priznam ovde, da imam Blueberryja, Modesty, Cat Claw, Riđobradog, Kirbyja i Hermanna (trenutačno) više zbog kolekcije jer dobro izgledaju na policama. Pošto sam nekad to več čitao (a ne pročitao), dočiče i to na red. Ali kad bude tajming pogodan, ne na silu. |
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Ernie Pike
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 16:42:51
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Ja sam se nedavno iznenadio kad sam vidio da imam više Fibrinih stripova nego Bookglobeovih. Bookglobe ima jako puno dobrih naslova i nisam imao problema napuniti listu. Pri tome nisam čitao neke od top naslova poput Usagia i Bonea. I ja bih volio da su izdali nove naslove nekih meni omiljenih stripova, ali kod mene imaju veliki kredit jer su završili Blueberrya (i Brodolomnike i Corta i Pustinjske škorpione ...). Još da izdaju treći integral Brune Brazila i dovrše XIII, zadovoljstvo bi bilo i veće.
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nikia
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Posted - 29/04/2015 : 09:33:57
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01. XIII 02. Blueberry 03. Blacksad 04. Lucky Luke 05. Umpah-Pah 06. Iznogoud 07. Bruno Brazil 08. Brodolomci vremena 09. Luc Orient 10. Asterix 11. Badi Longvej 12. Largo Winch
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Zaboravio da se potpiše. |
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I like girlz
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nisam mogao da pronađem temu u podforumu "izdavački izlog" vezanu za prve albume (odnosno zadnje po ritmu objavljivanja) bluberija. ne znam kako niko od vas nije ranije primjetio (a ako jeste, onda se izvinjavam) da su za prva 4 albuma (fort navajo, grmljavina na zapadu, usamljeni orao i izgubljeni konjanik) korišteni najlošiji francuski skenovi, gdje se mnoge giraudove linije uopšte ne vide, a neke se jedva vide, ako uporedimo iste sa drugim francuskim originalima, dečjim novinama i stripotekom. kome trebaju primjeri, navest ću tačne stranice.
i ne samo to, na nekim stranicama su francuzi (ili bookglobe, pitanje je sad) brisali neke stvari, tako npr. u "izgubljenom konjaniku" su izbrisani toponimi na karti dok bluberi razgovara sa generalom krukom na tabli 16b.
zatim sam gledao kasnija francuska re-izdanja i tu su vraćeni originalni skenovi (radi se o izdanjima poslije 1994-te) ali bookglobe se iz nekog razloga odlučio na ove najlošije skenove.
možda sam dosadan, ali obožavam ovaj strip i nadam se da će neki izdavač na ovim prostorima konačno odraditi ovaj serijal u najboljem mogućem izdanju! |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 03/03/2016 : 13:11:01
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Pretpostavljam da sam stariji od tebe, pa prvih šest albuma Blueberryja imam u dvije varijante, u izdanju Dečjih novina iz druge polovine 80-ih i svježe Bookglobeovo izdanje.
Ne znam kakvi su skenovi u Marketprintovim integralima, ali što se boje tiče, bolja domaća (i "domaća") izdanja od ovih trenutno ne postoje.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 03/03/2016 : 13:42:34
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quote: Originally posted by I like girlz
nisam mogao da pronađem temu u podforumu "izdavački izlog" vezanu za prve albume (odnosno zadnje po ritmu objavljivanja) bluberija. ne znam kako niko od vas nije ranije primjetio (a ako jeste, onda se izvinjavam) da su za prva 4 albuma (fort navajo, grmljavina na zapadu, usamljeni orao i izgubljeni konjanik) korišteni najlošiji francuski skenovi, gdje se mnoge giraudove linije uopšte ne vide, a neke se jedva vide, ako uporedimo iste sa drugim francuskim originalima, dečjim novinama i stripotekom. kome trebaju primjeri, navest ću tačne stranice.
i ne samo to, na nekim stranicama su francuzi (ili bookglobe, pitanje je sad) brisali neke stvari, tako npr. u "izgubljenom konjaniku" su izbrisani toponimi na karti dok bluberi razgovara sa generalom krukom na tabli 16b.
zatim sam gledao kasnija francuska re-izdanja i tu su vraćeni originalni skenovi (radi se o izdanjima poslije 1994-te) ali bookglobe se iz nekog razloga odlučio na ove najlošije skenove.
možda sam dosadan, ali obožavam ovaj strip i nadam se da će neki izdavač na ovim prostorima konačno odraditi ovaj serijal u najboljem mogućem izdanju!
Jesi li ovaj sud donio na temelju skenova Bookglobeovih albuma?
Što se tiče samih materijala, tu izdavač često ne može birati. Jednostavno, mora raditi s onim materijalima koje mu da originalni vlasnik autorskih prava. Dakle, ako išta nedostaje u onome što je Bookglobe objavio, to je zbog intervencija Moebiusa ili Dargauda. |
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jaki
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Posted - 03/03/2016 : 14:21:50
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siguran si? mora biti da i očajni prijevodi u nekim albumima izdavača bg su inrtervencija nositelja prava? |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 03/03/2016 : 14:35:52
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
siguran si? mora biti da i očajni prijevodi u nekim albumima izdavača bg su inrtervencija nositelja prava?
Prijevod je druga stvar, to ide na dušu Bookglobeu.
Misliš na prijevod u nekim albumima Mladog Blueberryja? |
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