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vice
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Posted - 18/01/2018 :  23:02:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ponukan savjetom vukozeca, otvaram zasebnu temu.

Ovo može biti topic u kojem bi se tražili filmovi raznih vrsta i žanrova, koje povezuje jedna specifična tema.

Za početak, to je povratak junaka u svoj rodni kraj, gdje se sukobljava sa nezaustavljivom silom problema/villaina.

Evo prijedloga iz teme o filmovima:

vukozec

Evo par naslova, uglavnom je o povratku iz rata riječ.

Vijetnam:
- Rolling Thunder (1978)
- Born on the 4th of July (1989)

Irak:
- Route Irish (2010)
- Thank You for Your Service (2017)

Američki građanski:
- The Outlaw Josey Walles (1978)
- The Man from Colorado (1948)

Povratak iz građanskog rata bila je jedna od češćih pozadinskih priča špageti vesterna (prepoznali su se tu Talijani, oni su imali kroz povijest više iskustava kad su međusobno ratovali na različitim stranama - podsjeća me to na još neke narode...):
- The Return of Ringo (1965)
- Cowards don't pray/Taste of vengeance (1969)
- The Hills Run Red (1966)
- California (1977)
- Keoma (1976)
- Blood for a silver dollar (1965)

Noviji vesterni sa povratnicima kući u sukobu sa okolinom (ne nužno iz rata):
- Jane's got a gun (2015)
- Forsaken (2015)
- The Dark Valley (2014)


Caleb

Out of the Furnace

fandango

Gross Point Blank
Big Chill
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof
Bad Day at Black Rock
Beau Serge

Opti

Shusho Iwwai (1971)


And like that... he's gone.

Edited by - vice on 18/01/2018 23:03:15

Caleb
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Posted - 18/01/2018 :  23:15:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Caleb's Homepage  Send Caleb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovde bi super legao Road House, samo da je glavni junak iz tog gradica.

Inace, tesko je naci film, bas po opisu koji trazis. Ima ih dosta koji su slicni, ali ipak ima razlika. Ovo ispod je vec skretanje sa teme (nije to sto ti trazis), ali nadam se da se neces ljutiti.

In the Valley of Elah
Deer Hunter
Jacob's Ladder

Preveo: Goran Krickovic, Tekst interpretirali: Ljubiša Bacic, Nada Blam, Miroslav Bijelic, Vlastimir Ðuza Stoiljkovic i Nikola Simic, Magnetoskop: Miroslav Nikolov, Ton majstor: Rihard Merc, Realizacija: Slavko Tatic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkE5VYffiR0

Edited by - Caleb on 18/01/2018 23:26:41
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ken2
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Posted - 18/01/2018 :  23:20:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
s tematikom vijetnama imate 'coming home' s jane fonda i jon voightom - oboje dobili oskara za taj film
pa i rambo se vratio doma, iako u filmu nije bio u rodnom kraju nego je tražio ratnog druga negdje po amerikama

if you tolerate this, then your children will be next
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Caleb
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Greece
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Posted - 18/01/2018 :  23:30:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Caleb's Homepage  Send Caleb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo vec lici

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419677/

Nisam gledao, ali opis odgovara.

Preveo: Goran Krickovic, Tekst interpretirali: Ljubiša Bacic, Nada Blam, Miroslav Bijelic, Vlastimir Ðuza Stoiljkovic i Nikola Simic, Magnetoskop: Miroslav Nikolov, Ton majstor: Rihard Merc, Realizacija: Slavko Tatic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkE5VYffiR0
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vice
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Posted - 18/01/2018 :  23:40:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@Caleb - naravno da nema ljutnje, dapače, samo naprid, sve je dobrodošlo. Svjestan sam težine specifikacije. :)

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Obi-wan
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  00:20:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Obi-wan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Streets of fire
Kingpin
The count of Monte Cristo

What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine.

Edited by - Obi-wan on 19/01/2018 00:20:31
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Mali_Mate
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  00:27:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Mali_Mate's Homepage  Send Mali_Mate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A di je Rambo?

http://matanovogumno.blogspot.com
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vice
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  00:37:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mali_Mate

A di je Rambo?



On je spomenut u prethodnom topicu, gdje je ovo i krenulo. ;)

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going going
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  01:18:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caleb

[green]Ovde bi super legao Road House, samo da je glavni junak iz tog gradica.




Bas je i meni pao na pamet Road House sa Patrikom Svejzijem u glavnoj ulozi, ali on nije iz tog gradica. Ali film je u tom fazonu. Preporucujem ga u svakom slucaju, moj omiljeni akcioni film 80ih! Odlicna akcija, Sam Eliot u sporednoj ulozi, sjajna muzika, pravi nalet adrenalina i muskosti!

Usput sam siguran da sam pogledao neki film bas po ovom Viceovom opisu ali ne mogu da ga se setim niti je ijedan od ovih pobrojanih. Moguce je da sve vreme mislim na Road House ali nisam siguran.
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wele
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  01:19:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send wele a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo ti jednog sjajnog neizvikanog filma koji se moze uvrstiti u navedenu kategoriju

The Indian Runner (1991)

radio Son Pen prema Springstinovoj pjesmi Highway patrolman, nevjerovatna glumacka ekipa

meni jako, jako drag film
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fandango
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  07:11:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sto se povratka kuci iz rata tice, dodajem na listu Najbolje godine nasih zivota i satiru Hail the Conquering Hero Prestona Sturgesa, meni jednog od omiljenih filmasa.

Spomenuo si i Walking Tall, vice, to je znaci originalna trilogija, TV remake, TV serija, remake s The Rockom i jos dva nastavka s Kevinom Sorbom.

Meksicki vestern Tiempo de morir za koji je scenarij napisao Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
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Poli
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  09:35:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Jos nekoliko primjera...

Manchester by the Sea (2016)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4034228/


Broken Bridges (2006)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477392/


Backtrack (2015)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2784936/


Grosse Pointe Blank (1997)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119229/


Big Eden (2000)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212815/


The Chase (1966)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060232/


Till Human Voices Wake Us (2002)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240980/


The Best of Me (2014)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1972779/


Evidence of Blood (1998)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154467/


The Woodsman (2004)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361127/


The Thin Man Goes Home (1945)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037365/


Boogeyman (2005)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357507/


Just Before I Go (2014)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2980472/


Big Bully (1996)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115676/


The Hollars (2016)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3714720/


Home Run (2013)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2051894/


El ciudadano ilustre (2016)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4562518/


a na neki nacin svakako i Lion (2016), iako se vrati tek na kraju filma, no cjeli film je traganje za domacim selom
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3741834/



Anything is possible dec d uej
Be the Change You Want to See
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vukozec
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  09:57:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Halloween (1978) :)
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ivanl
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  10:33:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Halloween (1978) :)


He, he. Michael Mayers se vraca kuci! Carpenter je napravio mrak film za samo saku dolara. Kultno djelo.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  10:33:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit King Warrior's Homepage  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
- Just Friends

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edvin
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  12:27:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send edvin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
'Deer Hunter'


"How long, not long, 'cause what you reap is what you sow!"
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Opti
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  13:29:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Opti a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sjetio sam se još par:

Pale Flower (1964)
Delinquent Girl Boss: Worthless to Confess (1971)
Carmen Comes Home (1951)
Samurai II: Duel at Ichijôji Temple (1955)
New Tale of Zatôichi (1963)
Zatôichi's Conspiracy (1973)

I ne znam ako se ovaj broji, ali među filmove ove tematike bih uvrstio i Den-en ni shisu (1974), gdje se protagonist vraća kroz vrijeme u svoj rodni kraj/djetinjstvo ne bi li ubio svoju posesivnu majku, savjetovao mladog sebe i općenito pokušao promijeniti svoju prošlost. Po mom sudu jedan od najboljih filmova svih vremena.

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübert ragungsgesetz!!

Edited by - Opti on 19/01/2018 13:49:31
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vice
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  15:11:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo još jedan:

Don McKay

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1281374/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_14

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Zlotvor
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  15:21:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zlotvor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dead Man's Shoes:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419677/?ref_=nv_sr_2
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vukozec
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  15:35:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zlotvor

Dead Man's Shoes:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419677/?ref_=nv_sr_2



E, taj ima na vrpi za pogledat
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Zlotvor
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  15:57:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zlotvor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Svakako pogledaj kad uhvatiš vremena.

Od domaćih, Crvena prašina je dobra. Tribuson scenarist.
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Opti
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  16:00:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Opti a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tu spada i honkonški wuxia klasik One-Armed Swordsman (1967)

Što s filmovima gdje se lik po povratku ne sukobljava nego pasivno trpi poniženja? Kao recimo A Clockwork Orange (1971) gdje se vraća iz zatvora pa ga svi cipelare. Ili Rampo Noir (2005) i Caterpillar (2010), dva filma snimljena po poznatoj japanskoj kratkoj priči o ratnom junaku koji se vraća kući bez glasa, sluha i udova pa se njegova žena sadistički iživljava nad njim.

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübert ragungsgesetz!!
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vukozec
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  16:04:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zlotvor

Svakako pogledaj kad uhvatiš vremena.

Od domaćih, Crvena prašina je dobra. Tribuson scenarist.

.

Slazem se.

Ima jos onih dizidentsko-gastarbajterskih iz devedesetih, Zlatne godine itd.

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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 19/01/2018 :  23:14:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hm, dosta ih je već navedeno, pa ću ja spomenuti samo The Crow, Captain America: The Winter Soldier i Jing wu men (Fist of Fury), od ovih što mi trenutno padaju na pamet.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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ivanl
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Posted - 20/01/2018 :  10:00:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lessie se vraca kuci.
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vukozec
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Posted - 20/01/2018 :  14:06:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ivanl

Lessie se vraca kuci.



Ne paše: Tema je junak koji se već vratio, ne junak koji se tek vraća :)

Ima dosta horrora sa temom povratnika iz mrtvih (Frankenweenie, Pet sematery) ili SF filmova u kojima se junaci vraćaju kući drugačiji (Flight of the Navigator, The astronaut's wife). Naravno, možemo reći da nedobrovoljno uskrsli ili svemirski putnici koje su vanzemaljci ili neke druge nezemaljske sile promijenile više nisu iste osobe, no sa filozofskog stajališta ideja je slična: junak je negdje izbivao i kući se vraća dramatično promijenjen (ili se u međuvremenu promijenila zajednica kojoj je pripadao ili oboje), više se ne uklapa, ne može popuniti rupu koja je iza njega ostala.

Kao što Bob Dylan kaže: You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way.

Edited by - vukozec on 20/01/2018 14:15:05
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