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teller
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 06:44:10
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Jako loše, bez glave i repa, bez cilja i smisla. Dođosmo do Ol Undasa, vidjesmo da majmuni vladaju, i odosmo bez da smo pobijedili. Tu je posveta Andyju Serkisu i njegovoj ulozi Caesara u novom Planetu majmuna.
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CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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VALTER
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koze123
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 13:02:26
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Na koji specijal je ovo nastavak? U sećanju mi je neki strip koji se dešava u tako nekom gradu u visini, Feri je ja mislim crtao.  |
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VALTER
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Dwayne_Looney
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 13:23:58
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O majko mila, malo im sedam pojava i reinkarnacije nekih protivnika pa sad još nastavci specijala u maxijima i kolorima. A kad se sjetim da smo o tim edicijama (specijal, maxi, almanah) govorili da se mogu zasebno čitati. |
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Kruger
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 13:54:40
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quote: Originally posted by Giuda Ballerino
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Jako loše, bez glave i repa
Kad ti to kažeš jasno je kako je ustvari obrnuto.
Buratini je supotpisnik scenarija, to znači kako se radi o nečemu izvrsnom.
ti cak i od tele-ra mozes uciti, jel ti neugodno?
Što učiti? Kako netko svršava netko svršava na bezidejnog i katastrofalnog Boselija, valjda se nekome može svidjeti Buratini. Svatko ima svoj ukus, netko voli prazne glupe priče, a neto izvrsne avanturističke akciće bez preseravanja i to je to. |
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VALTER
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 15:10:42
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quote: Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney
O majko mila, malo im sedam pojava i reinkarnacije nekih protivnika pa sad još nastavci specijala u maxijima i kolorima. A kad se sjetim da smo o tim edicijama (specijal, maxi, almanah) govorili da se mogu zasebno čitati.
Pa naravno da se mogu zasebno čitati, nije to Nathan Never ili Deep Space Nine da se tu radi o dijelovima slagalice, jedne veće priče. Zagor ionako prepriča sve što se ranije dogodilo, a sjeća se i imena svih protagonista iz svog prethodnog posjeta Ol Undasu. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 15:20:14
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Inače, trebalo bi Russa. Talijan je, Fabrizio Russo, nije francuski naglasak na zadnjem slogu (ru'so), u tom bi slučaju bilo Russoa. |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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Poncho
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 15:26:08
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quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by Giuda Ballerino
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Jako loše, bez glave i repa
Kad ti to kažeš jasno je kako je ustvari obrnuto.
Buratini je supotpisnik scenarija, to znači kako se radi o nečemu izvrsnom.
ti cak i od tele-ra mozes uciti, jel ti neugodno?
Što učiti? Kako netko svršava netko svršava na bezidejnog i katastrofalnog Boselija, valjda se nekome može svidjeti Buratini. Svatko ima svoj ukus, netko voli prazne glupe priče, a neto izvrsne avanturističke akciće bez preseravanja i to je to.
Sve 5 cak i floskula o gustibus et coloribus, al Bure i avanturistički akcić bez preseravanja... to ide skupa ko lip dan i olujno nevrime. Bure je kralj statike. |
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Curunir
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 15:36:26
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Bure je u 90% scenarija totalna katastrofa, negdje bi ipak trebalo podvući crtu i prestati s onim "o ukusima se ne raspravlja". Mislim pri tome na one očite, nepobitne činjenice, npr. svatko kome je dobar strip ona njegova nebuloza o Hellingenu trebao bi zauvijek zašutjeti o stripovima. Neka u smeću uživa u tišini. Svi mi imamo "guilty pleasures", ali smo valjda svjesni da je nešto smeće. |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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Poncho
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 15:45:05
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Eh da se bar Bure okrene trešu pa da to dobro radi. Dobar treš se cijeni. Muka i jest što bi on htio kao biti ozbiljniji autor, a ne ide mu.
U njegovu obranu štancanje, na koje je izgleda osuđen, ga satire. Treba mu odmor, malo da se sabere, manje ali fokusiranije piše. Samo stanje u firmi je takvo kakvo je,a bure jako slabo kotira. |
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Kruger
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 17:14:20
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
Bure je u 90% scenarija totalna katastrofa, negdje bi ipak trebalo podvući crtu i prestati s onim "o ukusima se ne raspravlja". Mislim pri tome na one očite, nepobitne činjenice, npr. svatko kome je dobar strip ona njegova nebuloza o Hellingenu trebao bi zauvijek zašutjeti o stripovima. Neka u smeću uživa u tišini. Svi mi imamo "guilty pleasures", ali smo valjda svjesni da je nešto smeće.
Mislim kako imaš problem nametanja. Sam Zagor je trash. Bure je pozitivan, Boseli je negativan, kod Boselija ima jako puno tog američkog preseravanja, puno objašnjavanja u samim akcionim scenama pa priča postaje naporna. Buratinijeve priče su protočne čiste, pozitivne, lepršave. Boseli je sve suprotno. Trash zna biti dobar i Bure od tog trasha radi ono najbolje što može dok Boseli davi, pokušava napraviti ne znam Dostojevskog i vrlo je loš u tim pokušajima. Boseli je svjetlosnim godinama daleko od Dostojevskog. |
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Kruger
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 17:16:36
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quote: Originally posted by Poncho
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by Giuda Ballerino
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Jako loše, bez glave i repa
Kad ti to kažeš jasno je kako je ustvari obrnuto.
Buratini je supotpisnik scenarija, to znači kako se radi o nečemu izvrsnom.
ti cak i od tele-ra mozes uciti, jel ti neugodno?
Što učiti? Kako netko svršava netko svršava na bezidejnog i katastrofalnog Boselija, valjda se nekome može svidjeti Buratini. Svatko ima svoj ukus, netko voli prazne glupe priče, a neto izvrsne avanturističke akciće bez preseravanja i to je to.
Sve 5 cak i floskula o gustibus et coloribus, al Bure i avanturistički akcić bez preseravanja... to ide skupa ko lip dan i olujno nevrime. Bure je kralj statike.
Mi imamo različit pogled, meni je možda plava boja ljepša od žute, tebi je možda obrnuto. Bah, vi pokušavate glumiti Hegela ili ne znam što, Cicerona. Pričamo o stripovima. |
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teller
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Slovenia
19126 Posts
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 18:27:16
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Burence je car, spasio je Zagora i ako ga i pokopa.. ima nato pravo.. Bar mu je produzio več sada život za 30 godina bar... |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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Poncho
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 19:30:47
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quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by Poncho
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by Giuda Ballerino
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Jako loše, bez glave i repa
Kad ti to kažeš jasno je kako je ustvari obrnuto.
Buratini je supotpisnik scenarija, to znači kako se radi o nečemu izvrsnom.
ti cak i od tele-ra mozes uciti, jel ti neugodno?
Što učiti? Kako netko svršava netko svršava na bezidejnog i katastrofalnog Boselija, valjda se nekome može svidjeti Buratini. Svatko ima svoj ukus, netko voli prazne glupe priče, a neto izvrsne avanturističke akciće bez preseravanja i to je to.
Sve 5 cak i floskula o gustibus et coloribus, al Bure i avanturistički akcić bez preseravanja... to ide skupa ko lip dan i olujno nevrime. Bure je kralj statike.
Mi imamo različit pogled, meni je možda plava boja ljepša od žute, tebi je možda obrnuto. Bah, vi pokušavate glumiti Hegela ili ne znam što, Cicerona. Pričamo o stripovima.
Sve 5 samo bilo bi lipo kad bi moga obrazložit svoj stav. Valjda forum, rasprava tome služi. Al nebitno... |
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teller
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Slovenia
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VALTER
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Croatia
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mmihoci
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 21:17:58
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Je fakat ima puno argumenata, argumenti tipa: "Smeće nad smećem", "sranje ili najveće/univerzalno sranje", "onaj XYZ scenarist/crtač zločinac", "Onaj XYZ2 scenarist/crtač štetoćina", "Onaj debil/kreten/budala/ograničenog intelekta koji ne vidi da je to smeće nad smećem ili smeće na N-tu". Takve argumente je najlakše (i najbolje) ignorirat. |
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sumohrvat
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 22:17:28
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Pročitao i ovu epizodu, još jednu u nizu ispodprosječnih Zagorovih epizoda u posljednje vrijeme... Crtež je još i podnošljiv i stvarno nemam problem sa njim, ali priča mi nema veze s vezom. Kao da su scenaristi krenuli s radnjom pa onda negdje oko stote strane im je netko dojavio da ovo ide u kolor ediciju pa moraju zgotoviti sve do 128 strane. Gomila nelogičnosti od toga da Ikarovo Pero nastavi suradnju sa zločincima i nakon što mu ubiju kćer. Barem on misli da su mu je ubili. Potpuno bezvezan razlog zašto Zagora ostave na životu nakon što ga savladaju. Onda nekakva verzija Planete majmuna za siromašne... Sve u svemu, otužno na šta je spao Zagor... I što se dogodilo s oblakom koji je okruživao visoravan? Onaj oblak s otrovnim plinovima??? |
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Dexters
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 23:14:08
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quote: Originally posted by mmihoci
Je fakat ima puno argumenata, argumenti tipa: "Smeće nad smećem", "sranje ili najveće/univerzalno sranje", "onaj XYZ scenarist/crtač zločinac", "Onaj XYZ2 scenarist/crtač štetoćina", "Onaj debil/kreten/budala/ograničenog intelekta koji ne vidi da je to smeće nad smećem ili smeće na N-tu". Takve argumente je najlakše (i najbolje) ignorirat.
Gle, uvjeravam te na Curunir nije zločest tip. On kaže da je Bure smeće, ali ako ga pitaš što je Perniola, reći će MegaSmeće, a ako ga pitaš što je Mignaco, reći će GigaSmeće itd itd. Kužiš obrazac, on zapravo voli Bureta više od svih drugih  |
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Kruger
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Croatia
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Posted - 29/03/2021 : 08:40:59
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
On nema stav, jer imati stav znači moći argumentirati, on ima svoje mišljenje, i zadovoljan je što na to ima pravo
Nisi u pravu. Ti i Curunir volite nametati svoj stav i to je to. Nikakvi argumenti. |
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Kruger
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Posted - 29/03/2021 : 08:42:19
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quote: Originally posted by Poncho
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by Poncho
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by Giuda Ballerino
quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Jako loše, bez glave i repa
Kad ti to kažeš jasno je kako je ustvari obrnuto.
Buratini je supotpisnik scenarija, to znači kako se radi o nečemu izvrsnom.
ti cak i od tele-ra mozes uciti, jel ti neugodno?
Što učiti? Kako netko svršava netko svršava na bezidejnog i katastrofalnog Boselija, valjda se nekome može svidjeti Buratini. Svatko ima svoj ukus, netko voli prazne glupe priče, a neto izvrsne avanturističke akciće bez preseravanja i to je to.
Sve 5 cak i floskula o gustibus et coloribus, al Bure i avanturistički akcić bez preseravanja... to ide skupa ko lip dan i olujno nevrime. Bure je kralj statike.
Mi imamo različit pogled, meni je možda plava boja ljepša od žute, tebi je možda obrnuto. Bah, vi pokušavate glumiti Hegela ili ne znam što, Cicerona. Pričamo o stripovima.
Sve 5 samo bilo bi lipo kad bi moga obrazložit svoj stav. Valjda forum, rasprava tome služi. Al nebitno...
adriano bolje objašnjava od mene pa pročitaj što on piše. Ja ulazim u ovu primitivnu raspravu pa se tako i ponašam još sam ja Dostojevski za Valtera i Curunira.  |
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Duke Zill
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delboj
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teller
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