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DeeCay
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 18:50:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Budući da niti nema topica o ovoj još živućoj legendi (barem dok mu netko od njegovih hejtera, žene prvenstveno, ne zabiju pijuk za led u glavu), odlučio sam otvoriti jedan. Poticaj mi je naravno bio novi parov tekst na sajtu...

Nedavno je izašao i strip omnibus Život i smrt Mačka Fritza u izdanju srpskog Komika, tako da ipak ima njegovih materijala na ovom prostoru. Bilo kako bilo, bacite pogleda na tekst.

Robert Dennis Crumb - legenda američke underground scene; strip umjetnik, ilustrator i glazbenik, prepoznatljivog crtačkog stila i kritičkog, satiričnog i krajnje subverzivnog pogleda na američki strip mainstream.



http://www.stripovi.com/enciklopedija/autori/robert-crumb/675/

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."

acestroke
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 18:55:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ne znam bas puno o ovom tipu, samo se sjecam filma "Crumb", od Terry Zwigofa, iz 1995... odlican dokumentarac. Covjekova familija je stvarno cudna, jedan od boljih Americkih dokumentaraca koje sam gledao

http://www.acestroke.blogspot.com
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Mairosu
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 18:58:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mairosu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dobar je Crumb, malo dated u svojoj counter-culture etici, ali meni je dobar. Pogotovo su mi dobri prevodi na srpski.

Ko igra za raju, i zanemaruje taktiku, zavrsit ce karijeru u nizerazrednom Vratniku.

Kakav ti je kupus, takva ti je sarma -- otac Tadej
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Luca_Torelli
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 20:14:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Luca_Torelli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Meni je odličan Crumbov album "Muzika" - priče o crnačkom bluesu prepune robusnih, muškobanjastih žena. Paro je u svom tekstu izdvojio sjajne Crumbove izjave o feministicama koje ga ne podnose jer ne podnose istinu o sebi - a istina je da ne postoji bitna razlika između muškaraca i žena. Simone de Beauvoir ustvrdila je, naime, "da se ženom ne rađa, već postaje"!

Svaka feministica trebala bi na noćnom ormariću imati Crumba!

nebesa nisu humana... (Hrabal)

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Raspucin
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Barbados
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 20:31:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Raspucin's Homepage  Send Raspucin a Yahoo! Message  Send Raspucin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bilo bi lepo da vidimo ovu interpretaciju Biblije u izdanju Komika, dakako u okviru Robert Kramb biblioteke.

JUUUUUGOOOSLAAAAVIIIIJOO NA NOGE
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paro
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 21:17:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo da se javim. Vidim da je acestroke preporučio film ˝Crumb˝ od Zwigofa. Uz taj filmić još bi spomenuo ˝Confessions of Robert Crumb˝ iz kojeg sam zapravo i uzeo njegove izjave za ovu recku, dok se na youtube mogu pronać zanimljivi govori i predavanja koja je držao na raznim koledžima. Pogledavši nekoliko tih govora skužio sam da je Crumb upravo onakav u stvarnosti, kakav je i u svojim stripovima, bez dlake na jeziku. Ako nekog zanima Crumbovo djelo ˝Muzika˝ koje spominje Luca_Torelli, ono je izdao ˝Šareni dućan˝ 2006. i može se nabavit u Hrv. Jedina zanimljiva priča koju sam izbacio, što se stripa tiče je ona o American Splendor, ali smatram da Harvey Pekar koji je preminuo prošle godine zaslužuje svoju zasebnu priču na ovom sajtu.
Inače se trudim izbjegavat pisat o privatnom život crtača, al ćemo se valjda složit da je po pitanju Roberta Crumba to praktički nemoguće.

I slažem se s Raspucinom, izdavači što prije prevedenu Genezu u stripoteke...a onda odmah i Mr. Prirodnog.

EDIT: DeeCay, hvala ti što si popunio praznine.

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Edited by - paro on 24/09/2011 21:36:12
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Mr. Bushido
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 22:47:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Paro, odličan ti je tekst.

Imam jednu veću zamjerku, ali to ćemo preko PM-a.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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paro
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 22:50:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

Paro, odličan ti je tekst.

Imam jednu veću zamjerku, ali to ćemo preko PM-a.



O Kriste, pa subota je
Pretpostavljam da znam o čemu je riječ, al slobodno javi, dapače, svaka kritika je dobrodošla....čak i od tebe

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DeeCay
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Posted - 08/10/2011 : 21:25:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kao mala nadopuna tekstu o Crumbu...

Život i smrt Mačka Fritza / ZSMF KOM 1 | 96 str.

Kolekcija Crumbovih politički nekorektnih, perverznih i hedonističkih priča s Mačkom Fritzom u glavnoj ulozi...

http://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/zsmf-zsmf-kom-1-zivot-i-smrt-macka-fritza/1373/



Crumb i sav njegov opus složena je zbrka njegovih skrivenih sklonosti i odraza zeitgeista njegovog vremena, tako da je potpun prikaz njegovih djela zaista velik pothvat. Evo ja sam dao svoj mali doprinos...

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."

Edited by - DeeCay on 08/10/2011 21:36:40
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Mr. Bushido
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/10/2011 : 21:28:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fritz.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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paro
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 08:36:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odlično Dee, riješili smo i Crumba i Fritza

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paro
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 09:11:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

Fritz.



A njemu nemaš zamjerki....sunce ti #%$:/


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DeeCay
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 12:21:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Što je još izašlo od Crumba na našim prostorima? LOM-ov "Kakav svet" vidim ovdje na sajtu, neki piratski stripovi su se spominjali, a Šareni dućan je 2008. objavio Muziku...


“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."

Edited by - DeeCay on 10/10/2011 12:23:31
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 12:37:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeeCay

Što je još izašlo od Crumba na našim prostorima? LOM-ov "Kakav svet" vidim ovdje na sajtu, neki piratski stripovi su se spominjali, a Šareni dućan je 2008. objavio Muziku...

Nisu stripovi, ali svojedobno su objavljene dvije knjige sa Crumbovim ilustracijama, Kafka za početnike i diptih Charlesa Bukowskog Nema Publike/Donesi mi svoju ljubav. Mislim da i neka druga izdanja Bukowskog imaju Crumbove ilustracije.

http://www.jesenski-turk.hr/?active=knjiga&book=1911
http://www.sareni-ducan.hr/html/bukowski_zene.html

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dessa
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Serbia
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 13:01:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dessa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lom, je pored dve zbirke "Kakav svet", objavio i Demonku.

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DeeCay
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 14:17:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nikad dosta Crumba...

Robert Crumb: Muzika

Još jedan tekst o Crumbu, ovaj put o njegovom hvaljenom albumu Muzika iz pera Bojana Krištofića BOC-a. NASTAVI >>>



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zorglub
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 14:35:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zorglub a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Znači ako sam dobro razumeo, ovaj album je kompilacija priča odavde (ovih=http://www.bookdepository.com/R-Crumbs-Heroes-Blues-Jazz-Country-Robert-Crumb/9780810930865) i još nekih kratkih, po slobodnom nahođenju uredništva Slobodnog Dućana?
Prelistao sam ga na brzinu pre neku godinu, fino izgleda, ali mi se čini da je ipak i preveliki format i previše luksuzno izdanje za stripove gosn. Kramba.

Odjednom mi se život proširio.

Kupindo
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azra x.
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Serbia
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 13:10:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit azra x.'s Homepage  Send azra x. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kramb o o drugima...
http://rcrumb.com/aboutcrumb_others.html
http://rcrumb.com/aboutcrumb_others_2.html


Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? o.o
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going going
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Posted - 08/12/2015 : 21:46:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Je l citao neko ovo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introducing_Kafka
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izivko
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Jesam ja ali ne do kraja

Have mercy
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going going
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Posted - 08/12/2015 : 22:12:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Jesam ja ali ne do kraja



Sto? Je l nije valjalo ili?
Meni deluje vrlo interesantno, Kafka mi je omiljeni pisac i vrlo ga cenim, a i Kramb je veliki majstor tako da mi ovo deluje kao fini spoj.
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izivko
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Posted - 08/12/2015 : 22:15:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ako se dobro sjećam ima puno teksta pa me to odbilo.
Morat ću provjerit

Have mercy
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corto33
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Posted - 09/12/2015 : 10:36:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send corto33 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by going going

Je l citao neko ovo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introducing_Kafka



Izašlo je to u Sloveniji u izdanju Stripburgerja.
Meni se dopalo iako mi nije medju najboljim Crumbovim radovima.
Pomaže i ako si upoznat sa Kafkinim romanima.


Društvo ljubiteljev stripov Stripoholik
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zokalav
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Posted - 09/12/2015 : 21:12:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zokalav a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Komiko je objavio vecinu stripova
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corto33
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Posted - 10/12/2015 : 11:39:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send corto33 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zokalav

Komiko je objavio vecinu stripova



Komiko je objavio možda jednu petinu Crumbovog opusa.


Društvo ljubiteljev stripov Stripoholik
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KOMIKO
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Posted - 10/12/2015 : 21:18:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit KOMIKO's Homepage  Send KOMIKO a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zokalav

Komiko je objavio vecinu stripova



Nije većina, ali dobar deo najznačajnijih radova jesmo objavili.
Biće još, stay tuned...






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