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Paka01
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Posted - 02/06/2023 : 15:58:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zar Bone nema 9 trejdova?

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa
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Red Marquis
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Posted - 02/06/2023 : 16:03:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Red Marquis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

Zar Bone nema 9 trejdova?


ČK će izdati u 5 knjiga sve.
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Paka01
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Posted - 02/06/2023 : 16:24:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aha, pardon, nisam znao. Mislija sam da ide ko u originalu.

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa
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Largo
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Posted - 02/06/2023 : 18:59:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Largo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Verovatno prodaja prvog broja nije ispunila očekivanja, pa su smanjili tiraž i promenili štampariju.
To naravno nije dobar izgovor, ali već smo navikli na ovakva sranja od njih…
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alaniusfordius
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Posted - 02/06/2023 : 19:07:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alaniusfordius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Largo

Verovatno prodaja prvog broja nije ispunila očekivanja, pa su smanjili tiraž i promenili štampariju.
To naravno nije dobar izgovor, ali već smo navikli na ovakva sranja od njih…



Mozda je nesto i do bojkota?
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AleksandarN
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Posted - 02/06/2023 : 20:36:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send AleksandarN a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Largo

Verovatno prodaja prvog broja nije ispunila očekivanja, pa su smanjili tiraž i promenili štampariju.
To naravno nije dobar izgovor, ali već smo navikli na ovakva sranja od njih…



A mogu da ispale kao i za Sagu i da kazu ne isplati nam se i kupite ostatak od drugog izdavaca (kojeg smo verovatno u medjuvremenu zabranili).

"Whatever it is, I'm against it."
Groucho Marx
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borg
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 02:58:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send borg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kupci govore izdavačima kako treba da se izdaju stripovi.
Izdavači određuju kupcima koje stripove mogu kupovati.
Policajac kupuje od lopova stripove pa poklanja biblioteci iz koje su isti ukradeni.
Hrvatski izdavač izdaje strip srpskog autora na srpskom jeziku.
Srpski izdavači, po pravilu, izdaju stripove na latinici. Itd.

Jel neko stvarno misli da su problem margine, promena štamparije, logo na naslovnici?

Ja živim u zemlji čuda. Tako da mi svaka normalnost deluje čudno.



Resistance is futile.

Edited by - borg on 03/06/2023 12:12:54
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john connor
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 10:47:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send john connor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kupci govore kakve bi stripove zeleli. Jel to nesto strasno?

Ukazuju na moguce greske, nemarnost, previd. Dobronamerna kritika je uvek dobrodosla. Na koncu kupci kupuju proizvod. Ne vidim tu problem.
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Peyo
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 13:14:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Peyo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by borg
Ja živim u zemlji čuda. Tako da mi svaka normalnost deluje čudno.



Ima stara izreka:

Tko ovdje ne poludi nije normalan !
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borg
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 15:21:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send borg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by john connor

Kupci govore kakve bi stripove zeleli. Jel to nesto strasno?

Ukazuju na moguce greske, nemarnost, previd. Dobronamerna kritika je uvek dobrodosla. Na koncu kupci kupuju proizvod. Ne vidim tu problem.



Mislim da su to relikti prošlosti. Kada je bilo kupaca stripova toliko da su se znali međusobno. I kada je izdavač gledao da izađe u susret toj grupi kupaca, jer je strip bio nepoznat široj publici.

Danas, kada proda ČK Asteriksov prvi integral u 10.000 primeraka, postaje nevažno šta misli grupa od 50-100 stripofila... A i sama prodaja tolikih tiraža njima kaže šta rade dobro.

S druge strane, misliš da Karven ne zna kako da napravi savršeno izdanje?
Al ako mu kažu: imaš toliki budžet. Onda on pravi savršeno izdanje u zadatim parametrima.


Sada, kada je strip izašao iz senke postoje neka druga pravila. Mada, i dalje postoje neki izdavači koji "zavise" od grupe stripofila. I njihove podrške.

Što se ČK tiče, mislim da pročitaju komentare, u smislu nekog feedback-a, ali komentari efekta imaju samo u smislu nekih manjih kozmetičkih promena.

Zato im forum više nije ni potreban. Važno je samo se oglašavati da je stiglo nešto novo i podsticati pažnju tj. tražnju. Diskusije su prevazišli. Verovatno tako razmišljaju. Šta znam...

Komentarišem i ja tehnikalije stripa kog pročitam. Al pitanje je koliko to uopšte dotiče izdavača. Sad da krenem da tupim o tome kako je Komiko pogrešio kod upisa Aldobranda. Čak i na zadnjoj korici im piše AldoBANDO. Ima i u stripu... Al, to je već zaštitni znak Komika- greške kod upisa... I sad ja da govorim Vuku da obrati pažnju na upis... Nah... Kad neko iznova ponavlja iste stvari, znači da ne želi da ih menja. E, sad, zamisli da ću pre da jurim kamiondžiju, da mi prevozi strip iz Hrvatske nego da mi stigne Komikov na kućnu adresu. Koliko moraš da fušeriš da me izbaciš iz zone komfora i da pre izaberem strano izdanje nego domaće.
ČK stavlja sve na isti papir. U Taličnom i Asteriksu, Marsupilamiju itd mi prolazi. Kod 90% drugih mi ne prolazi.
Moja kritika je da ne kupim taj ili onaj strip. Ako ima pak mnogo onih koji ga kupe, onda je izdavač odradio odličan posao. Ako im prodaja ide loše, onda će sami da se zapitaju zašto...


Resistance is futile.

Edited by - borg on 03/06/2023 15:37:13
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 15:33:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Lord Vader89 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ima neke poetske (ne?)pravde u tome da borg govori kako se lokalni fenomen asimilovao u ogromnu masineriju gde se pojedinacni glasovi vise ne cuju xD

Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D.
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borg
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 15:38:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send borg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hehehehehe, dobar!

Resistance is futile.
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alexts
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 16:58:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sad se kaže "bistar kao borg", ne više "kao boza".


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borg
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 17:32:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send borg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aleks, ne znam šta bih ti rekao osim da citiram jednog mog druga: upiši se u školu za humor.

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alexts
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 19:03:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To bi bio sukob interesa, jer predajem na njoj.
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going going
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Posted - 03/06/2023 : 23:40:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jagodanbg





Je l ovo Osvetnici Rastanak u stvari Avengers Disassembled?
Odatle je krenuo ceo niz Bendisovih eventova koji su manje vise svi objavljeni kod nas, vecinski u Darkvudovom izdanju, ali uleteo je i CK u to sa Kucom M i jos necim, ne mogu sad da se setim.
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sawitch
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Posted - 04/06/2023 : 03:40:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ej, sta je ovaj Garoviks? Koliko toga ima?
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matori paraliticar
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Posted - 04/06/2023 : 07:59:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send matori paraliticar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
uh sta cu da ti radim.. pa vec smo se mucili oko kopanja u vezi toga :)

"On January 6, 2021, it was announced that the character would have his own animated television series titled Idefix and the Indomitables."

"This is the first television series based on the Asterix comic book series."
" It is a spin-off prequel series based on the Asterix comic book series, that explores Dogmatix's past, set two years before he met Obelix. The show takes place in the streets of Lutetia. "

Valjda je bila uspesna ta tv-serija pa su napravili tri strip albuma
a sad da li ce ih biti vise nisam siguran

ta tri albuma su valjda u ck izdanju

Comic albums
Idéfix et les Irréductibles

Pas de quartier pour le latin ! 2021.
Les Romains se prennent une gamelle ! 2022 June
Ça balance pas mal à Lutèce ! 2022 October

ovoj nije palo na pamet malo da lista knjigu (doduse ni ja nisam ukljucio zvucnike da je slusam)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2bKDzHb-LE

Imas inace lepo privju
http://carobnaknjiga.rs/chest/odlomak/_Garoviks%20prelist.pdf

Kod mene ovo izlazi u pojedinacnim albumima pa ispadne dosta skuplje nego ovo od ck
mada naravno ne uzimam ovo od ck svejedno ni ne razmisljam o tome dok se za milimetar ne opamete...


nisu se sami pretegli da napisu malo vise o izdanju kao recimo o garfildu sto su nekada
http://carobnaknjiga.rs/garfild-1-

Under construction.

Edited by - matori paraliticar on 04/06/2023 08:02:00
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sawitch
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Posted - 04/06/2023 : 09:14:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oni su znaci kompletirali. OK. Thanks stari :)
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matori paraliticar
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Posted - 04/06/2023 : 09:20:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send matori paraliticar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pa sad izdali su ono sto ima od ovoga za sada ali da li ce biti nastavka ovoga to jos nisam ukapirao

Pise se da je ta tv-serija uspesna ali vrag bi ga znao sta to znaci..
u kojim zemljama je emitovana itd

Nema drugog resenja nego da se neko zrtvuje i kupi i procita ovo.
Ja verovatno necu moci ni da listam skorije ..

Under construction.
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Paka01
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Posted - 04/06/2023 : 10:16:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by going going

quote:
Originally posted by jagodanbg





Je l ovo Osvetnici Rastanak u stvari Avengers Disassembled?
Odatle je krenuo ceo niz Bendisovih eventova koji su manje vise svi objavljeni kod nas, vecinski u Darkvudovom izdanju, ali uleteo je i CK u to sa Kucom M i jos necim, ne mogu sad da se setim.



To je to, da.
Taj je event u stvari neki kamen temeljac modernih Marvelovih eventova.

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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going going
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Posted - 04/06/2023 : 23:56:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

quote:
Originally posted by going going

quote:
Originally posted by jagodanbg





Je l ovo Osvetnici Rastanak u stvari Avengers Disassembled?
Odatle je krenuo ceo niz Bendisovih eventova koji su manje vise svi objavljeni kod nas, vecinski u Darkvudovom izdanju, ali uleteo je i CK u to sa Kucom M i jos necim, ne mogu sad da se setim.



To je to, da.
Taj je event u stvari neki kamen temeljac modernih Marvelovih eventova.



Da, cudi me sto Darkvud nije od toga krenuo nego prvo od Planete Hulk pa Civil War pa nadalje.
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anto
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Posted - 05/06/2023 : 00:06:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paranoid

Sacekajte da izadje, znate da cesto nisu tacne informacije na cobissu


mislim da je ovo posredi - ako su promenili štampariju,nadam se da će ih karven dobro iskontrolisati,jer kad se pritegnu mogu i da dobro urade.

Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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jagodanbg
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Posted - 05/06/2023 : 00:06:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jagodanbg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bože, ko će sve to pohvatati/povezati
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going going
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Posted - 05/06/2023 : 01:34:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Paka, kako idu ti eventovi odnosno kako ih treba čitati?
Je l ovako?
1. Avengers Disassembled (ČK)
2. House of M (ČK)
3. Planeta Hulk (DW)
3. Građanski rat (DW)
4. Svetski rat Hulk (DW)
5. Tajna invazija (DW)
6. Mračna vladavina (DW)
7. Opsada Asgarda (DW)
8. Osvetnici / X-Men: Utopija (DW)
10. Iskonski strah (DW)

I gde tu spadaju?
11. Ultron napada (DW)
12.Doba Ultrona (DW)
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