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nagor
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 17:51:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message




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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 17:58:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
Harvey je dirao samo bijelkinje. Zašto nije i crnkinje? To je rasizam!





https://www.buzzfeed.com/bimadewunmi/lets-talk-about-black-women-in-hollywood-and-harvey?utm_term=.yxX55Dkw7N#.kr6mmoOk4d

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The elephant in the room in discussions about the alleged crimes and misdemeanors of Hollywood film producer Harvey Weinstein looks eerily similar to an elephant of the past. It is the Race elephant. And among the allegations, the question of race is one that we are not really looking to engage with, because it is knotty and gnarly. But it bears talking about, because there are black women in Hollywood, and not talking about it does us all a disservice.
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 20:21:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
http://www.index.hr/black/clanak/filmska-diva-napala-metoo-pokret-muskarci-dobivaju-otkaz-zbog-pipkanja-koljena-i-pokusaja-poljupca/1018433.aspx

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"Silovanje je zločin. Ali naporno ili nespretno udvaranje nije zločin, kao što ni laskanje nije mačistički napad"

Pravo muškaraca na "udvaranje" ženama ključni je dio seksualne slobode, kažu one nazivajući kampanju "puritanizmom".
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 20:52:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
#MeToo

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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 13:31:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by nagor





Meni i ovo lijevo izgleda kao portret a ne kao real
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nagor
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 13:38:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
Da, imaš pravo. Budući da nemamo visokokvalitetnu fotografiju iz tog vremena, moramo zaključiti da je sve moguće ali najvjerojatnije je to da su u tom multikulti otvorenom do stranaca francuskom srednjovjekovnom društvu sve plemkinje u biti bile crne. Pogotovo ove na sjeveru Francuske.
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 14:35:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Beva a Private Message
U biti, sad pokušavaju donekle kompenzirati za višedesetljetno prikazivanje ljudi različitih rasa bijelim glumcima, primjer Džingis Kan:



Kleopatra:



Itd, milijun je primjera. Iako ovo što sad rade nije povijesno točno, ne mogu reći da ne razumijem povod.

Jubilarni Polo 10!http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51213
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King Warrior
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Da, da, bice interesantno sa tim ulogama u naredno vrijeme...
Hitlera bi mogao glumiti Samuel L. Jackson, osim ako nije politicko nekorektno da crnac glumi negativca.
Georgea Washingtona Denzel Washington, taman se prezime poklapa.
Will Smith u ulozi Isusa.
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 15:00:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
Kleopatra je u biti bila Grkinja (potomak Ptolomeja, grčkog generala u službi Aleksandra Velikog) tako da Elisabeth Taylor u ulozi Kleopatre nije baš na razini "blackface-a". ;)

Edited by - nagor on 13/01/2018 15:04:50
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 15:11:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Beva a Private Message
Ali ovo je portret i ne slaže se :)



Meni osobno je puno uvredljivije kad Džingis Kana glumi bijelac nego kad nekog opskurnog povijesnog like glumi crnac, a taj nije bio crn. Ali ponavljam, razumijem i zašto su prije bijelci glumili sve (nitko ne bi gledao filmove bez bijelih glavnih glumaca) i zašto danas znaju pretjerivati u obrnutom smjeru (jer su prije bijelci glumili sve pa je sad na djelu "sudačka kompenzacija" :D).

Jubilarni Polo 10!http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51213
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quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

Da, da, bice interesantno sa tim ulogama u naredno vrijeme...
Hitlera bi mogao glumiti Samuel L. Jackson, osim ako nije politicko nekorektno da crnac glumi negativca.
Georgea Washingtona Denzel Washington, taman se prezime poklapa.
Will Smith u ulozi Isusa.




Samuel L. Jackson je već glumio Hitlera (na neki način).


"I’ll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda."
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 15:45:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Golub a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

Da, da, bice interesantno sa tim ulogama u naredno vrijeme...
Hitlera bi mogao glumiti Samuel L. Jackson, osim ako nije politicko nekorektno da crnac glumi negativca.
Georgea Washingtona Denzel Washington, taman se prezime poklapa.
Will Smith u ulozi Isusa.




To može, pošto se radi o fiktivnom liku .

(šala, prije nego što me netko napadne)
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nagor
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 15:54:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
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Originally posted by Beva

Ali ovo je portret i ne slaže se :)



Da, Kleopatru tamnije kože se može probavit. Ptolemejci su se nakon 300 godina vjerojatno pomiješali s domaćima, ali svejedno postoji povijesna osnova za casting bijele glumice u ulogu Kleopatre.

Casting crne glumice za ulogu srednjovjekovne francuske plemkinje je teški PC idiotizam.
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nagor
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 15:58:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Golub

quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

Da, da, bice interesantno sa tim ulogama u naredno vrijeme...
Hitlera bi mogao glumiti Samuel L. Jackson, osim ako nije politicko nekorektno da crnac glumi negativca.
Georgea Washingtona Denzel Washington, taman se prezime poklapa.
Will Smith u ulozi Isusa.




To može, pošto se radi o fiktivnom liku .

(šala, prije nego što me netko napadne)



Evo, ja ću te. :)

Isus kao povijesna osoba je vjerojatno postojao i izgledao je ko i svaki drugi Židov svog vremena i tog prostora. Isus kao karizmatični lider vjerskog kulta iz 1. st. je jedno, Isus kao sin božji je drugo. :)

Edited by - nagor on 13/01/2018 21:53:27
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King Warrior
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 16:04:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message
@Radio, da, podsvijesno sam ga valjda zbog toga i naveo za primjer.

Sto se tice korektnosti, prije su jeli govna, sada to pokusavaju da isprave tako sto ih jedu jos vise.
Bolje bi bilo da su skroz prestali da ih jedu i da se drze istorijskih cinjenica.
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tinton
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 16:42:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send tinton a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by nagor

quote:
Originally posted by Golub

quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

Da, da, bice interesantno sa tim ulogama u naredno vrijeme...
Hitlera bi mogao glumiti Samuel L. Jackson, osim ako nije politicko nekorektno da crnac glumi negativca.
Georgea Washingtona Denzel Washington, taman se prezime poklapa.
Will Smith u ulozi Isusa.




To može, pošto se radi o fiktivnom liku .

(šala, prije nego što me netko napadne)



Evo, ja ću te. :)

Isus kao povijesna osoba je vjerojatno postojao i izgledao je ko i svaki drugi Židov svog vremena i tog prostora. Isus kao karizmatični lider vjerskog kulta je jedno, Isus kao sin božji je drugo. :)


Vjerojatno je dosta nategnuto. Možda je postojao, možda nije.
Ako je i postojao vjerojatno je bio bliži Willu Smithu nego Willemu Dafoeu i Brianu Deaconu.

Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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nagor
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 21:52:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nagor a Private Message
Da, isti Fresh Prince:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a234/1282186/
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Poli
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Posted - 13/01/2018 : 22:28:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by nagor

Da, isti Fresh Prince:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a234/1282186/


Ne znam, meni ovaj iz linka izgleda kao iz Idliba neko.



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