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solar
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grofica Varga
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Germany
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Tonto
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vukozec
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Tonto
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nagor
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Croatia
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Member since 21/02/2012 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 17:16:45
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Ok, karantena. Ali vidi Britance. Oni kontra. Doslovno žele da se virus proširi da se stvori imunitet u populaciji. Predviđaju da će vrhunac biti ljeti i tek onda planiraju karantenu jer kao nema smisla da su ljudi u karanteni već od početka epidemije. Bolje da su u karanteni samo tada kad će biti vrhunac epidemije, da većina to tad preleži doma.
Zanimljiv pristup. Pravi britanski. Keep Calm and Corona On! :D
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/uk/uk-coronavirus-response-boris-johnson-intl-gbr/index.html
The reason the UK has held off stricter "social distancing" measures appears to be rooted in the government's prediction that the outbreak may not peak until 14 weeks from now -- and that people will not be willing to drastically alter their ways of life and stick to the new rules for over three months, so there's little point imposing more restrictions just yetGovernment ministers claim their decisions are being led purely by science. That science, they say, currently suggests that it would be beneficial for the country to build up some sort of herd immunity to the novel coronavirus strain in the long run. In short, authorities do want some Britons to get the bug, especially since for many, its symptoms will not be particularly debilitating
Some scientists did offer words of support for the UK's measures. "I am the first to admit that I'm not Boris Johnson's biggest fan. But I'm relatively impressed that unlike other political leaders, who've kind of bowed to the pressure of each other and their populations to implement school closures -- which we don't have enough evidence to know if it will make a difference or not -- Johnson is listening to the current evidence that's out there," Dr. Clare Wenham, assistant professor of global health policy at the London School of Economics, told CNN. "He's not doing a Trump and shutting down borders, which we know will have no effect. He's taking a rather measured approach now -- but yes, it's a gamble." |
Edited by - nagor on 14/03/2020 17:17:21 |
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verab
Senior Member
Croatia
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nagor
Advanced Member
Croatia
12553 Posts
Member since 21/02/2012 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 17:20:54
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Ma tih fora ima milijun. I ova sa Žižekom je odlična! Ali ajmo to u viceve jer je previše vijesti oko korone i previše viceva o njoj. Zagušit ćemo topic. ;) |
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vukozec
Advanced Member
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 17:39:29
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
Ok, karantena. Ali vidi Britance. Oni kontra. Doslovno žele da se virus proširi da se stvori imunitet u populaciji. Predviđaju da će vrhunac biti ljeti i tek onda planiraju karantenu jer kao nema smisla da su ljudi u karanteni već od početka epidemije. Bolje da su u karanteni samo tada kad će biti vrhunac epidemije, da većina to tad preleži doma.
Zanimljiv pristup. Pravi britanski. Keep Calm and Corona On! :D
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/uk/uk-coronavirus-response-boris-johnson-intl-gbr/index.html
The reason the UK has held off stricter "social distancing" measures appears to be rooted in the government's prediction that the outbreak may not peak until 14 weeks from now -- and that people will not be willing to drastically alter their ways of life and stick to the new rules for over three months, so there's little point imposing more restrictions just yetGovernment ministers claim their decisions are being led purely by science. That science, they say, currently suggests that it would be beneficial for the country to build up some sort of herd immunity to the novel coronavirus strain in the long run. In short, authorities do want some Britons to get the bug, especially since for many, its symptoms will not be particularly debilitating
Some scientists did offer words of support for the UK's measures. "I am the first to admit that I'm not Boris Johnson's biggest fan. But I'm relatively impressed that unlike other political leaders, who've kind of bowed to the pressure of each other and their populations to implement school closures -- which we don't have enough evidence to know if it will make a difference or not -- Johnson is listening to the current evidence that's out there," Dr. Clare Wenham, assistant professor of global health policy at the London School of Economics, told CNN. "He's not doing a Trump and shutting down borders, which we know will have no effect. He's taking a rather measured approach now -- but yes, it's a gamble."
Pa, zasad je teško reći čiji će pristup biti efikasniji, vrijeme će pokazati. |
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 17:46:31
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
Kad smo već kod prinova.
Spremite se na BABY BOOM 2021. Tamo negdje na početku 2021e će biti puno novih beba. :)
Onda smo opet na istom problemu, zar nije cilj smanjiti a ne povećati broj stanovnika ove prenapučene Zemlje. Ali, gospođica Corona je ionako preslaba po tom pitanju, za vidljivije rezultate potrebna je stara i iskusna gospođa Yersinia Pestis. |
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tex2
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
28976 Posts
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:03:33
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Čestitke King!
Da se vratimo na temu, sigurno ste čuli za onog lika što je zaražen došao u Klaićevu sa sinom (oboje imaju Coronu), e pa s njim sam bio na kavi prije desetak dana, a njegov sin je bio s mojim sinom na vježbama ovaj ponedjeljak. I što sad da radim? |
"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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selanne
stripovi.com suradnik
Bosnia and Herzegovina
7617 Posts
Member since 11/09/2009 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:07:00
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Samoizoliraj se. Ja sam se vratio iz Njemačke prije tjedan dana i morao sam se izolirati, iako nemam nijednog simptoma. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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nagor
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Croatia
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:15:41
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Uh, Tex, ne znam dal smo mi ovdje dovoljno kompetentni za kakav konkretan odgovor. Najbolje da nazoveš svog liječnika koji će te savjetovati dalje.
Ja na osnovi toga što sam pročitao o koroni, mogu samo reći da sam uvjeren da će to puno ljudi pokupit i da će nas većina to doma preležat bez problema i ozbiljnijih simptoma. Korona nije nikakva osuda na smrt, pogotovo za mlađe i inače zdrave ljude. Najgori dio početne faze je bila ta stigmatizacija i te prve brojke.
Čitam Slovence jer sam u direktnom kontaktu s njima. Oni su u drugoj fazi. Kaže njihov premijer "Nisu bitne brojke, prestajemo s nepotrebnim testiranjem, pripremamo se na liječenje najkritičnijih." To ti govori, da nema nešto previše smisla paničariti ako pokupiš virus. Bitno je da nisu teški simptomi. |
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:18:39
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Dnevno stanje za Italiju: 3497 novih zaraženih, 175 umrlih i 557 izliječenih. |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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lwood
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Colombia
46464 Posts
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:21:04
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quote: Originally posted by tex2
Čestitke King!
Da se vratimo na temu, sigurno ste čuli za onog lika što je zaražen došao u Klaićevu sa sinom (oboje imaju Coronu), e pa s njim sam bio na kavi prije desetak dana, a njegov sin je bio s mojim sinom na vježbama ovaj ponedjeljak. I što sad da radim?
probaj nazvat ove u hzjz 385 (0)1/48 63 222 pa pitaj. Ako ih uspiješ dobit. Triba bi bit u samoizolaciji. |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali s osvrtom na forumaše obavezno)!
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tex2
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:24:55
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Budući da odnedavno razrjeđujem krv znam bar da sam zdrav, pa bi ako i pokupim virus trebao kao što kažeš ga prohodati. Jedan mali s vježbi već dobio visoku temperaturu. A ovaj direktor je u srijedu već znao da ima coronu i onda ide okolo??!! I naravno svi mi imamo starije roditelje, rodbinu, a oni su najizloženiji, a bili s nama, ma znam da su Hrvati neodgovorni, ali svejedno dokle! |
"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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DzekDenijels
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Serbia
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:26:31
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quote: Originally posted by tex2
Čestitke King! Da se vratimo na temu, sigurno ste čuli za onog lika što je zaražen došao u Klaićevu sa sinom (oboje imaju Coronu), e pa s njim sam bio na kavi prije desetak dana, a njegov sin je bio s mojim sinom na vježbama ovaj ponedjeljak. I što sad da radim?
Odeš na testiranje i razrešiš sve dileme. Ako si negativan, evo dokaza da virus i nije toliko virulentan. Ako si pozitivan - izolacija uz simptomatsku terapiju, i za 10-ak dana si izlečen. U svakom slučaju nema mesta za paniku i neku zabrinutost... |
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tex2
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
28976 Posts
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:28:46
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Teško dobit bilo koga!
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by tex2
Čestitke King!
Da se vratimo na temu, sigurno ste čuli za onog lika što je zaražen došao u Klaićevu sa sinom (oboje imaju Coronu), e pa s njim sam bio na kavi prije desetak dana, a njegov sin je bio s mojim sinom na vježbama ovaj ponedjeljak. I što sad da radim?
probaj nazvat ove u hzjz 385 (0)1/48 63 222 pa pitaj. Ako ih uspiješ dobit. Triba bi bit u samoizolaciji.
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"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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selanne
stripovi.com suradnik
Bosnia and Herzegovina
7617 Posts
Member since 11/09/2009 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:29:40
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Kod nas ne žele testirati nikoga tko nema simptome, ja sam tražio da me testiraju, jer mi se ne da dva tjedna sjediti kući ako sam zdrav (a izgledno je da jesam). |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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tex2
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
28976 Posts
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Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:31:33
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quote: Originally posted by DzekDenijels
quote: Originally posted by tex2
Čestitke King! Da se vratimo na temu, sigurno ste čuli za onog lika što je zaražen došao u Klaićevu sa sinom (oboje imaju Coronu), e pa s njim sam bio na kavi prije desetak dana, a njegov sin je bio s mojim sinom na vježbama ovaj ponedjeljak. I što sad da radim?
Odeš na testiranje i razrešiš sve dileme. Ako si negativan, evo dokaza da virus i nije toliko virulentan. Ako si pozitivan - izolacija uz simptomatsku terapiju, i za 10-ak dana si izlečen. U svakom slučaju nema mesta za paniku i neku zabrinutost...
Hvala, a napravit ćemo što nam kažu službe, paničar nisam |
"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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grofica Varga
stripovi.com suradnik
Germany
1202 Posts
Member since 15/12/2009 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:36:37
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Nađi broj, hot line za tvoju županiju, ili zovni doktora ili hitnu. Budi uporan! Oni će ti kazati što da radiš. Ne bi smio otiči na svoju ruku u čekaone. To je preventiranje mogućnosti da zaraza ne bukne baš po bolnicama/ambulantama. |
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lwood
Advanced Member
Colombia
46464 Posts
Member since 09/12/2005 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:40:52
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quote: Originally posted by DzekDenijels
quote: Originally posted by tex2
Čestitke King! Da se vratimo na temu, sigurno ste čuli za onog lika što je zaražen došao u Klaićevu sa sinom (oboje imaju Coronu), e pa s njim sam bio na kavi prije desetak dana, a njegov sin je bio s mojim sinom na vježbama ovaj ponedjeljak. I što sad da radim?
Odeš na testiranje i razrešiš sve dileme. Ako si negativan, evo dokaza da virus i nije toliko virulentan. Ako si pozitivan - izolacija uz simptomatsku terapiju, i za 10-ak dana si izlečen. U svakom slučaju nema mesta za paniku i neku zabrinutost...
Haha,baš se nasmijah. Kod nas jedva da ikog testiraju. |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali s osvrtom na forumaše obavezno)!
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grofica Varga
stripovi.com suradnik
Germany
1202 Posts
Member since 15/12/2009 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:42:00
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Testove ne rade kako se kome sprdne. Tvoj slučaj bi trebali shvatiti ozbiljno. Ako ti budu neozbiljni i seruckaju. Zovni druge ambulante, hitne itd. Nikad ne znaš jel kakav polupismeni tulipan na liniji, al valjda imaš feeling za to. |
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izivko
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Germany
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ivanl
Advanced Member
Croatia
15617 Posts
Member since 24/04/2012 |
Posted - 14/03/2020 : 18:52:52
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quote: Originally posted by vukozec
quote: Originally posted by ivanl
Odgodili Supersuckerse...
Bio sam prije 2 god u Vintageu, ok, ali ništa spektakularno, ni bend ni publika nisu više što se nekad bili...
Više me brine ova karta u džepu za Inmusic.
Ja im se bas radovao. Nema ni Missiona pocetkom travnja. A karta u dzepu... sve ce turneje otkazati i kancelirati. Najgore mi je za Rage against machine i System of the down. A zalit cu najvjerovatnije i za Judas Priest jubilarnom turnejom za 50 godina kontinuiranog rada. Da spomenem samo neke... |
Kontra mraku, kontra sili! Prkos mocnome, zaštita slabome! |
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