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going going
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:03:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by vukozec

Smješten je u vrijeme rata i rat je centralna tema. Nisu ratni samo akcijski filmovi. Je li Schindlerova lista ratni film?


Ne znam da li logorski filmovi treba da idu pod zanr ratnog filma ili su oni podzanr ili podkategorija ratnog filma?

Ne znam naprimer kako klasifikovati Prohujalo s vihorom, tu je isto prisutan rat, mada kao dramska okolnost koji utice na radnju a ne kao glavna centralna tema filma. Plus nema ni jedne scene rata, ako ne racunamo onaj total Atlante kako gori.
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BeaGea
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:05:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ratna zbivanja središnja tema filma čine ratni film ratnim filmom!
Da, država je!
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BeaGea
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:07:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gore spomenuta su tri remek djela ratnog filma po svim uzusima filmske i kulturne kritike. Nitko živ (a da ih je pogledal) ne bi rekel za ijedan od spomenutih filmova da nije ratni. Pa ovo su egzaktni primjeri ratnog filma!
Da, država je!
Edited by - BeaGea on 24/02/2021 22:11:42
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going going
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:22:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BeaGea

Gore spomenuta su tri remek djela ratnog filma po svim uzusima filmske i kulturne kritike. Nitko živ (a da ih je pogledal) ne bi rekel za ijedan od spomenutih filmova da nije ratni. Pa ovo su egzaktni primjeri ratnog filma!




Mislis na ova tri koje si ti okacio?
Nisam njih gledao, odnosno jesam u delovima samo Renoirov film kad je bio na tvu pre neku godinu, mislim dve. Treba da ga odgledam u celosti.
I ovaj japanski deluje bas dobro.
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BeaGea
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:25:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bas ti na Prstenove pisem da se baci na Human Condition ;)
Da, država je!
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BeaGea
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:27:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Renoira svakako, samo ga nema na youtube ali ga " negdje" ima!
Da, država je!
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going going
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:28:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BeaGea

Renoira svakako, samo ga nema na youtube ali ga " negdje" ima!



Nasao sam ga vec.

Evo kaze na criterionovom sajtu o La Grande Ilusion:
Dobra Velsova fora
When asked what two films he would take with him "on the ark", Orson Welles simply responded, "La Grande Illusion... and something else!"

A classic of prison escape movies, The Grand Illusion (1937) was hugely influential on films that followed, including The Great Escape. Variously banned by both German and French authorities, the film — which deals with themes of class, prejudice, and war — was not without controversy.

Film critic Roger Ebert called it "a meditation on the collapse of the old order of European civilization".
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BeaGea
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Posted - 24/02/2021 :  22:34:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Da, Criterion ga ima ali samo dvd, ima izvrsno BD izdanje Studio Canala za Europu.
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fandango
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Posted - 25/02/2021 :  12:04:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Za ratne filmove, skloniji sam tintonovom rezoniranju. Mene vise interesira, obzirom da The Human Condition ima tri dijela koja su sveukupno 9.5h, da li je to jedan golemi film, ili se broji kao tri filma? Kako to brojati u sklopu izazova?

Moje misljenje: Ja bih to brojao kao jedan film. Ali pokriva tri kategorije, azijski, ratni, c/b.
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BeaGea
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Posted - 25/02/2021 :  13:04:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Usporedi ga s Prstenovima, doživljavaš li ga jedan film ili 3. Potpuno ti je ista situacija s Human Condition!

...za mene su oba primjer jedan film podijeljen na tri djela.
Da, država je!
Edited by - BeaGea on 25/02/2021 13:05:08
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BeaGea
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Posted - 25/02/2021 :  16:10:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Po nekim kritičarima najbolji ratni film svih vremena!
Da, država je!
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vukozec
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Posted - 25/02/2021 :  17:38:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo za inspiraciju, Vukozečevih top 10 ratnih filmova, kronološki poredak:

Rim, otvoreni grad 1945
Paths of Glory 1957
The Battle of Algiers 1966
Lovac na jelene 1978
Apocalypse Now 1979
Empire of the Sun 1987
The Tin Red Line 1998
Saving Private Ryan 1998
Downfall 2004
Jojo Rabbit 2019
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BeaGea
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Posted - 25/02/2021 :  19:11:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cross of Iron
Human Condition
Talvisota
Die Nibelungen, Langov!
Idi i smotri
La gran ilusion
Apocalypse now
Ran
Thin red line
Woyna i mir
Da, država je!
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Ernie Pike
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Posted - 25/02/2021 :  21:36:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ernie Pike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bez rangiranja:

Saving Private Ryan
Full Metal Jacket
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
Das Boot
The Dirty Dozen
A Bridge Too Far
The Longest Day
Bitka na Neretvi
Der Untergang

Najbolje što sam gledao u vezi rata su Black Adder 4 i Band of Brothers.
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going going
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Posted - 25/02/2021 :  21:45:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vidim na Netflixu dva ratna filma koja su mi interesantna i koja bih pogledao (pa eto ako neko nije, a nema ideja za ratne filmove, a i ostali ako su gledali mogu da kazu kako im se cine filmovi) Rescue Dawn u reziji Wernera Herzoga, u glavnoj ulozi Bale i Defiance u glavnoj ulozi Daniel Craig.
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Shaner
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Posted - 26/02/2021 :  06:11:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Shaner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Defiance mi je osrednji, ali ja sam generalno slab s ratnim filmovima. Gledam ove liste što ljudi kače i pitam se jesam li sve skupa pogledao deset ratnih filmova.
http://onlineimpressions.blogspot.com/
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Ernie Pike
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Posted - 26/02/2021 :  07:37:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ernie Pike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Slažem se sa Shanerom oko Defiancea.
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BeaGea
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Posted - 26/02/2021 :  08:37:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Defiance nije nekaj bi me privuklo tak da ga nisam gledal ali zato jesam Herzoga. Dobar film je Rescue Dawn!
Da, država je!
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vukozec
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Posted - 26/02/2021 :  10:12:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ernie Pike


Najbolje što sam gledao u vezi rata su Black Adder 4 i Band of Brothers.
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vukozec
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Posted - 26/02/2021 :  10:24:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by going going

Vidim na Netflixu dva ratna filma koja su mi interesantna i koja bih pogledao (pa eto ako neko nije, a nema ideja za ratne filmove, a i ostali ako su gledali mogu da kazu kako im se cine filmovi) Rescue Dawn u reziji Wernera Herzoga, u glavnoj ulozi Bale i Defiance u glavnoj ulozi Daniel Craig.


Gledao oba. Isti dojam otprilike, nit smrde nit mirišu, Ok za pogledati jednom i zaboraviti.
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BeaGea
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Posted - 26/02/2021 :  15:48:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ernie Pike
Najbolje što sam gledao u vezi rata su Black Adder 4 i Band of Brothers.


Onda baci pogleda na Fullerov:


Sam Fuller je inače u stvarnosti bio pripadnik ove borbene jedinice!
Da, država je!
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