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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 22/08/2017 : 22:12:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nažalost ti ne mogu odgovoriti jer ja imam samo PZ sa 11. albumom;one sa prvih 10 priča sam pozajmio.A koliko se sećam,nisu.

a odakle si ti čitao P&O ako ne iz PZ?
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culture vulture
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Posted - 22/08/2017 : 22:32:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send culture vulture a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hvala svejedno.

Prvo s piratskih skenova, onda iz Delcourtovih albuma. (PZ izdanje sam vidio samo na skenovima, kad sam htio vidjeti kakav je srpski prijevod.)

Olovka je jedina stvar u mojem životu koju mogu kontrolirati.
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 22/08/2017 : 22:48:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
znaš francuski?
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culture vulture
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Posted - 22/08/2017 : 22:51:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send culture vulture a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Znam, to je, dapace, prvi strani jezik koji sam ucio.

Olovka je jedina stvar u mojem životu koju mogu kontrolirati.
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KuntaKinte
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/08/2017 : 07:55:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send KuntaKinte a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by culture vulture

Nema na cemu. Ajde odgovori sada, pliz, ti meni nesto. Jesu li u PZ-u uz taj strip stampane one geografske mape, dijagrami itsl. sto se u albumima nalaze s unutarnje strane korica i dodatno ilustriraju avanture nasih junaka (u 1. albumu karta Mediterana, u 2. je tu i Atlantik, u 3. Tanzerinsko (ili kako je vec u prijevodu) otocje, zatim Mjesec itd.)?


Nisu. Samo pre prvog albuma postoji kratak siže sa opisima glavnih likova.

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culture vulture
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Posted - 23/08/2017 : 12:48:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send culture vulture a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hvala na odgovoru.
Steta, jer autori su se i oko toga dosta potrudili i ima tu odlicnih fora.

Olovka je jedina stvar u mojem životu koju mogu kontrolirati.
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KuntaKinte
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/08/2017 : 12:54:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send KuntaKinte a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kad ovo neko kod nas objavi u nekim albumima (integralima), biće mi jedino žao jer sigurno neće da iskoristi NAJBOLJI-PREVOD-IKAD nekog stripa na naš jezik. Zato nameravam da sačuvam i ukoričim Politikine sa ovim stripom (što nisam radio jedno 20 godina), čekam samo da objave i 12. epizodu.

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culture vulture
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Posted - 23/08/2017 : 13:19:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send culture vulture a Private Message  Reply with Quote
PZ prijevod nije bas tako dobar - pitak je, ali ozbiljno manjkav, pisao sam vec o tome.

Evo, quotam:

quote:
Originally posted by culture vulture

Evo ti samo jedan primjer: "...il disait pourtant vous avoir vu tomber au siege d'Arras, occis d'un mechant coup d'epee dans la gorge" je prevedeno s: "...ali rekao je da ste pali u zasedu i da ste gadno ranjeni u grlo".


quote:

Taj prijevod, nazalost, nije svugdje razumljiv. I dosta je dobrih fora zbog toga propalo.

Recimo, ono kad Gospodar Oruzja kaze da Bombastusov izum nece raditi. Bombastusu to povrijedi ponos, na sto Gospodar Oruzja kaze: "Morbleu! Un tel cuistre meriterait d'enseigner a la Sorbonne!". U PZ-u je to prevedeno s: "Bogamu! Ovakav ucenjak zasluzuje da predaje na Sorboni!", sto ne samo da totalno zbunjuje, nego i unistava foru na racun Sorbonne (i akademskog svijeta uopce).

Jos jedan primjer: ime kadeta "Aldrin de Redondie" trebalo je prevesti kao "Aldrin od Redundancije", ili barem Redundije, a ne Redondije, jer inace nije smijesno kad je redundantan.




Olovka je jedina stvar u mojem životu koju mogu kontrolirati.

Edited by - culture vulture on 23/08/2017 13:36:52
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KuntaKinte
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/08/2017 : 14:19:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send KuntaKinte a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by culture vulture

PZ prijevod nije bas tako dobar - pitak je, ali ozbiljno manjkav, pisao sam vec o tome.

Evo, quotam:

quote:
Originally posted by culture vulture

Evo ti samo jedan primjer: "...il disait pourtant vous avoir vu tomber au siege d'Arras, occis d'un mechant coup d'epee dans la gorge" je prevedeno s: "...ali rekao je da ste pali u zasedu i da ste gadno ranjeni u grlo".


quote:

Taj prijevod, nazalost, nije svugdje razumljiv. I dosta je dobrih fora zbog toga propalo.

Recimo, ono kad Gospodar Oruzja kaze da Bombastusov izum nece raditi. Bombastusu to povrijedi ponos, na sto Gospodar Oruzja kaze: "Morbleu! Un tel cuistre meriterait d'enseigner a la Sorbonne!". U PZ-u je to prevedeno s: "Bogamu! Ovakav ucenjak zasluzuje da predaje na Sorboni!", sto ne samo da totalno zbunjuje, nego i unistava foru na racun Sorbonne (i akademskog svijeta uopce).

Jos jedan primjer: ime kadeta "Aldrin de Redondie" trebalo je prevesti kao "Aldrin od Redundancije", ili barem Redundije, a ne Redondije, jer inace nije smijesno kad je redundantan.






Ok, verujem ti, jer ne znam vrancuski
Mene su kupile one pesmice, pre svega na početku, a i kasnije.

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kasper
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Posted - 23/08/2017 : 14:28:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
da, pricali smo o tome, ovakak prevod kakav je je bolji nego original

Edited by - kasper on 23/08/2017 14:29:15
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kasper
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Posted - 23/08/2017 : 14:40:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nego da to javim i ovde, PZ najavio da ce uskoro da objavi Garulfa
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 25/08/2017 : 22:09:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
da,da - bila je već rasprava na temu prevoda u PZ.

ne znam kako je u originalu,niti me interesuje ako je domaći prevod/adaptacija odličan,a Oljin to svakako jeste.

Što spomenu KK,samo su one pesmice zlata vredne!
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corto33
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Slovenia
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Posted - 14/12/2018 : 11:22:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send corto33 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Izašao je deluxe integral u jednoj knjizi na francuskom:
https://www.amazon.fr/Cape-Crocs-Int%C3%A9grale-Alain-Ayroles/dp/2756095648/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544782809&sr=8-1&keywords=9782756095646


Društvo ljubiteljev stripov Stripoholik
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jaki
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Croatia
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Posted - 14/12/2018 : 15:14:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Moglo bi i Fibra ovako:

quote:
Originally posted by jaki




Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Peyo
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Croatia
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Posted - 14/12/2018 : 15:33:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Peyo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bolje ne, to je izdanje za bildere. Ne uzimaju mi se hormoni i proteini.
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jaki
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Posted - 14/12/2018 : 16:26:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bilo bi jeftinije?

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Peyo
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Posted - 14/12/2018 : 22:40:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Peyo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zar ti nisi svojedobno prosvjedovao protiv cigli od knjiga?
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DiSkAcH
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Posted - 15/12/2018 : 18:35:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DiSkAcH a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jaki se očito zeza, i ja sam protiv ovakvih grdosija, to je fora za kolekciju ali totalno ne fora za čitat.

-Hi Honey, did you miss me?
-With every bullet so far...
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Mango Loco
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Posted - 31/07/2026 : 09:01:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mango Loco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Da li ima sanse da neko kod nas ovo objavi?
Ne gine mi uzimanje pojedinacnih zabavnika izgleda...
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/08/2026 : 14:33:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pa objavila je Fibra
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matori paraliticar
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Posted - 02/08/2026 : 17:01:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send matori paraliticar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mango verovatno priznaje samo izdanja na srpskom

Steta stvarno da nije izbaceno.. u nekom lepom izdanju..u Srbiji
prevod hvaljen i spreman ali ipak nista..
CK je verovatno propustila priliku.. valjalo bi da se Lokomotiva ili Golkonda odvaze i..

Francuski Bogovi Grafizma
FBG
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Mango Loco
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Posted - 02/08/2026 : 18:26:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mango Loco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pardon nisam video Fibru. Ali opet nemam gde to da uzmem, a i videh da se zale na prevod.
Imam zato na kupindu zabavnike za po sto dinara komad...
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Grzi
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Posted - 02/08/2026 : 18:33:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Grzi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ma ko se zali na prijevod
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Shaner
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Posted - 02/08/2026 : 20:46:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Shaner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Grzi

Ma ko se zali na prijevod


Stvarno ne znam. Meni je super.

A kad smo kod toga, stvarno bi bilo vrijeme za novo izdanje. P&O definitivno pripada među stripove koji bi uvijek trebali biti dostupni.


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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/08/2026 : 21:23:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Moglo bi i Fibra ovako:

quote:
Originally posted by jaki







Predivno izdanje jbt. Stvarno bi mogao Markos da uradi ovako nesto. Uzeo bih iako imam vec.

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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