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Damjan
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 11:27:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Damjan's Homepage  Send Damjan a Private Message
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seinfeld
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 11:38:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Vance mi je dobar,vjerovatno zbog toga sto sam veliki fan XIII :-)).Crtez ima nesto a i coveri su cesto dobri...
Ferri mi nikada nije smetao,zna da uradi posao,kazem posao jer mislim da je za njega to uvijek i bio posao :-)).


It's a show about nothing.
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zosko
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 11:40:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zosko a Private Message
daleko gore mi je kad crtac ima arsenal likova (vecina njih) i onda crta razlicite "junake". primjer mister no "decak santjago" tex "atentatori" (nisam siguran da je to naziv, uglavnom nesto gdje oslobadjaju montalesa u mexiku)
ili pogledaj judasa i djila
kit i noviji ciko specijalci (kad ce gamba da nauci crtati cika?)...
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Damjan
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Italy
1458 Posts

Member since 12/02/2004

Posted - 05/04/2004 : 11:47:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Damjan's Homepage  Send Damjan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by seinfeld

Vance mi je dobar,vjerovatno zbog toga sto sam veliki fan XIII :-)).Crtez ima nesto a i coveri su cesto dobri...
Ferri mi nikada nije smetao,zna da uradi posao,kazem posao jer mislim da je za njega to uvijek i bio posao :-)).


It's a show about nothing.



I meni je Vance ok. Ne mislim da je "šabloniziranje likova" nužno loša stvar, ali bih se u svakom trenutku opredijelio za inventivniji pristup. Na primjer, Milazzo, po meni najbolji talijanski crtac. Njegovi su likovi šaroliki, pa samim time i životniji.
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Aco
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Slovenia
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 12:26:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Aco's Homepage  Send Aco a Private Message
Ferrijevi negativcu su u 95% slucaja svi isti.Ili su celavi,ili imaju gusarski povez preko oka ili ožiljak.A kako crta žene necu nu spominjati.


Bond.James Bond.
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nenno
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 12:30:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nenno a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Aco

Ferrijevi negativcu su u 95% slucaja svi isti.Ili su celavi,ili imaju gusarski povez preko oka ili ožiljak.A kako crta žene necu nu spominjati.


Bond.James Bond.


da. možda jedina zamjerka Ferriju su žene (sve apsolutno iste, samo promijene frizure).
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zosko
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 18:23:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zosko a Private Message
ako ovako nastavimo doci cemo do zakljucka da smo glupi sto citamo stripove
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Žiga
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 18:46:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Žiga a Private Message
Meni se cini da Ferri radi odlicno svoj posao i da se ljudi razlikuju.Ako bi crtao tako, da bi koristio sablonski pristup i da bi sve crtao isto, ne bi postigao toliki uspjeh i ne bio tako popularan.I kod njega se i vidi, da si covjek uzme vremena, da nacrta neki strip, zato je i tako kako treba.No, to je samo moj pogled na stvar.

Davay, davay, davay!

Edited by - Žiga on 05/04/2004 18:47:08
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solar
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 19:22:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message
Istina!
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fishleg
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 19:58:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fishleg a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Žiga

Meni se cini da Ferri radi odlicno svoj posao i da se ljudi razlikuju.Ako bi crtao tako, da bi koristio sablonski pristup i da bi sve crtao isto, ne bi postigao toliki uspjeh i ne bio tako popularan.I kod njega se i vidi, da si covjek uzme vremena, da nacrta neki strip, zato je i tako kako treba.No, to je samo moj pogled na stvar.

Davay, davay, davay!


Slazem se.

Ima dana kad se smijem ima noci kada pijem
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Damjan
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 20:13:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Damjan's Homepage  Send Damjan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Žiga

Meni se cini da Ferri radi odlicno svoj posao i da se ljudi razlikuju.Ako bi crtao tako, da bi koristio sablonski pristup i da bi sve crtao isto, ne bi postigao toliki uspjeh i ne bio tako popularan.I kod njega se i vidi, da si covjek uzme vremena, da nacrta neki strip, zato je i tako kako treba.No, to je samo moj pogled na stvar.

Davay, davay, davay!



Usporedi Zagora i bracu Sullivan iz "Zagor Extra" br. 1 (ili 2, nisam siguran), ili Super-Majka i Zagora, itd. U osnovnim crtama su potpuno isti.
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Žiga
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 21:05:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Žiga a Private Message
quote:
Ferrijevi negativcu su u 95% slucaja svi isti.Ili su celavi,ili imaju gusarski povez preko oka ili ožiljak


Ne bih se slozio u potpunosti.Celavi, koje sam sad nabrojao i razmisljao san dugo vrijeme, na pamet su mi pali jedino Ly-Cyeng, von Axel, Hellingen djelomice, Iron-man i Stevens.Oziljak imaju ova dva ista Stevens i Iron-man, ima ga jos i Krvnik i onaj Dietrich-obojeni covjek.A sa povezom sjecam se jedino onog morsku hijenu, Jednookog Jacka u jednoj epizodi.Ima ih nekih koji su celavi djelomice, ovih nisam racunao, ovi so naprimjer James Regan ili Kolekcionar.U stvari ih i nema tako puno u usporedbi sa SVIM zlikovcima.




quote:
Usporedi Zagora i bracu Sullivan iz "Zagor Extra" br. 1 (ili 2, nisam siguran), ili Super-Majka i Zagora, itd. U osnovnim crtama su potpuno isti.


Da ovdje moram da ti dam prav.Provjerio sam i zaista su si vrlo slicni, jedino sto SuperMike ima pege.




Davay, davay, davay!
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Damjan
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 21:12:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Damjan's Homepage  Send Damjan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Žiga
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quote:
Usporedi Zagora i bracu Sullivan iz "Zagor Extra" br. 1 (ili 2, nisam siguran), ili Super-Majka i Zagora, itd. U osnovnim crtama su potpuno isti.


Da ovdje moram da ti dam prav.Provjerio sam i zaista su si vrlo slicni, jedino sto SuperMike ima pege.




Davay, davay, davay!



O tome i govorim. Imaju iste bazicne crte lica, a razlikuju ih detalji kao što su boja kose, pjege i takve stvari.
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johnhartson
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 22:40:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit johnhartson's Homepage  Send johnhartson a Private Message
A, recimo, Zagor i Satko?

Nobody expects the spannish inquisition!
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