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Djole
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 15:49:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
E vala, ovo zaista jeste nešto potpuno drugacije.

Svaka cast Damjanu na jednoj ozbiljnoj i thought provoking analizi.

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Blek Stena
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 16:08:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Blek Stena's Homepage  Send Blek Stena a Private Message
Tekst je bass dobar, volim strip, volim matematiku, svidja mi se ova stvar
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Djole
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 16:17:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
A ja pride ne volim matematiku, a tekst me naveo da se zamislim. ;)

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Blek Stena
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 16:45:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Blek Stena's Homepage  Send Blek Stena a Private Message
Kod matematike i jeste najvazznije da se zamisliss.Vidiss, imass ti talenta za to
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Djole
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 16:53:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Ma jok, ja dolazim iz one škole misli koja tvrdi da je kod matematike najvažnije da imaš digotron. ;)

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seinfeld
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 16:57:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
TI digitron i miran si.

"They say this one has a surprise ending."
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Blek Stena
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 17:03:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Blek Stena's Homepage  Send Blek Stena a Private Message
Nama profa na ispitu nije dao da koristimo digitron, a nekad si morao vadit korijenje iz nekih brojeva, uzzasss!
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Blek Stena
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 17:04:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Blek Stena's Homepage  Send Blek Stena a Private Message
Sreca da dobro crtam, pa sam sebi na ispitnom listu nacrtao digitron koji mi je bass valjao za osmice
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seinfeld
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 17:09:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blek Stena

Nama profa na ispitu nije dao da koristimo digitron, a nekad si morao vadit korijenje iz nekih brojeva, uzzasss!



Koji je to pracovijek,ovdje mozes i laptop da doneses.Pa onda raspicis po MATLABu,zakon.

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Blek Stena
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 17:30:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Blek Stena's Homepage  Send Blek Stena a Private Message
Dobro si rekao praccovjek Ma nije on kriv ssto sam ja studirao prije dva vijeka...
A ovaj Damjanov tekst mi je bass nekako obrazovnog karaktera, podsjeca me na momente na fazone i fore poput onih u knjizi Ervina Rustemagica-Profesionalne tajne stripa, ccini mi se da se zvala...
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prozirna senka
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 18:14:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Da, napravio je interesantan spoj izmedju umetnosti i matematike. S obziom da sam za umetnost duduk, imao sam stogod i nauciti. Svaka cast Damjane.

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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 18:21:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send verter a Private Message
odlican tekst.damjane svaka cast!stvarno drugacije od svega sto smo dosad imali prilike procitati na sajtu.kako mi je matematika najdraza grana nauke to mi je predstavljalo pravo zadovoljstvo ovo citati.

sada ima ovih ludjackih digitrona sto crtaju amplitudno fazne karakteristike rjesavaju iterativne procese ako im samo zadas jednacinu itd itd.stvarno je nauka uznapredovala

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maksras
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 18:39:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send maksras a Private Message
Pa ako vam se svidjaju takve teme, procitajte "Papagajeva teorema" od Deni Gedja.

http://www.plato.co.yu/mc.dll/knjiga.detalji.htm?art_id=42370

A Damjan je zaista uradio odlican posao... :)
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ana max
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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 01:58:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ana max a Private Message
Sad sam otisla na taj link sto si dao Maksras i umrla od smeha. (Dobro okej, nisam bas umrla) Kad sam misem kliknula na "slicne knjige" ladno mi je izbacio gomilu naslova o papagajima tigricama.

Nisam jos procitala Damjanov clanak ali hocu.
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Edited by - ana max on 08/10/2004 20:38:14
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Barker
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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 12:50:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Barker a Private Message
Je, tekst je odlican- zanimljiv i poucan posebno za one koji "mrze" matis. Sad se vidi kakve sve koristi imamo od nje ;-)
A i Papagajeva Teorema je dobra za to, na zanimljiv i praktican nacin cete se upoznati sa osnovnim postulatima matematike i njenom istorijom kao a saznacete i koji su problemi ostali da se rese a muce neke velike mozgove vec decenijama i vekovima (Fermijeva, Goldbahova i jos neke teoreme).
Pa onda onda pogledajte film Pi i mozda cete se naci u kjizari vec sutra stiskajuci u rukama "Osnove teorije brojeva", "Matematika za neznalice" ili sta vec :))
Preporuke za sve ovo.


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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 17:09:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send verter a Private Message
barkeru vjerovatno si mislio na Fermat-ovu(fermaovu) th.,ali ona je rijesena devedesetih,ne mogu se sada sjetiti kada tacno ali sjeticu se.jeste da je dokaz grozan i malo razumljiv mnogima.pretpostavlja se da ga je fermat rijesio puno puno lakse(ili da je bar mislio da ga je rijesio,tj on je napisao da ima rjesenje ali nema prostora da ga zapise)ali za sada je ovo jedino rjesenje problema koji je stoljecima mucio mnoge matematicare.

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prozirna senka
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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 18:04:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Da, resenje je valjda da ne postoji resenje ze Fermaovu teoremu (ne mogu da se setim jel' u pitanju mala ili velika). Morao bih da proverim.

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Bravo Damjane!
Jako me zaintersovao tvoj tekst!
Jos ovakvih stvari!
Ajmo ljudi, radna akcija.
Markose, uvedi besplatno pivo za svaku recenziju. A finansiraj to pivo, tako sto ces neradnicima naplacivati pristup ;)))
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Djole
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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 18:49:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Damn! A taman sam rešio da prestanem da pijem! ;)

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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 19:15:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Blek Stena's Homepage  Send Blek Stena a Private Message
S koliko piva se honorarissu table za Fanzinnnn
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Posted - 09/10/2004 : 01:58:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send verter a Private Message
prozirni postoji rjesenje za fermaovu th.na IMO 2001 koja je odrzana u USA je cak prezentiran taj dokaz,prijatelji su mi bili prisutni(ta mi je olimpijada promakla za 1 bod).godinama se vjerovalo da ne postoji(ali kao sto rekoh fermat je napisao bio na margini jednog svog rada da je nasao izvrsno rjesenje ali zbog nedostatka prostora ne moze da ga zapise).

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prozirna senka
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Posted - 09/10/2004 : 08:50:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Da, da, nisam ni kazao da ne postoji, nego da je dokazano da je Fermaov dokaz, pronadjen na margini kontradikcija ili tako stogod. Nemoj da me teras da preturam po knjigama u gluvo doba noci:)

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Posted - 09/10/2004 : 09:12:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Idi bre verteru kad ja u tri sata ujutro cunjam po knjigama:)
Dakle, radi se o POSLEDNJOJ Fermaovoj teoremi, a u knjizi Dictionary of Theories kaze se sledece:
This is the celebrated conjecture in number theory that the equations x^n+y^n=z^n has no non-trivial solutions when n is greater than two. (If n=2, the solutions are Pythagorean triples)
Fermat made his claim, in his copy of a translation of Diophantus that 'I have aasurtedly found an admirable proof of this, but the margin is too narrow to contain it.' Today, Fermat's claim is not given much credence, but the result is known to hold for almost all exponents (taht is, the set of exponents on which it fails has zero density). While many approaches have been attemped, the problem remains open.

Tako knjiga kaze. Nego, jel' imas negde na netu taj dokaz?

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Mpf, Fermi, Ferma... Na njega sam mislio.

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Posted - 09/10/2004 : 15:31:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send verter a Private Message
"Idi bre verteru kad ja u tri sata ujutro cunjam po knjigama:)"



da mislio sam na veliku fermaovu th.jer dokaz male bi trebao da zna svaki iole dobar matematicar,a nalazi se u svakoj knjizi teorije brojeva.potrazicu sada na netu ovaj dokaz.trebalo bi da ima.kao sto pise u ovom citatu pokazano je za mnoge brojeve da vrijedi(ah ti kompjuteri),ali ja govorim o pravom dokazu.ne znam iz koje godine ti je ta knjiga,ali sigurno ima dokaz.

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Posted - 09/10/2004 : 17:43:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Knjiga je nova, ali je referenca iz knjige zastarela, sad sam proverio, datira iz 1984, pih! Nisu mogli nesto svezije da metnu.

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