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manhunter
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:23:02
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Ne mogu a da ne odreagujem.Clan sam ovog foruma 6 meseci(neki bi rekli isuviše malo da se otvori ovakva tema) i ono što mi se na prvi pogled dopalo je to što sam ovo vide baš kao pravo okupljanje ljubitelja stripa,razlicitih godina,nacionalnosti,mesta prebivališta i tako dalje.Ono što mi je u zadnje vreme zasmetalo su reakcije odredjenih ljudi na sam pomen imena odredjenog junaka iz kuce Bonelli.Razumem ja,svako ima pravo na svoje mišljenje i sve je to cool,ali covek mora respektovati i tudje mišljenje ili se barem tom mišljenju suprostaviti na malo kulturniji nacin.Ipak sticem utisak da par ljudi gleda na fanove tog junaka,onako malo sa visine,i sa podsmehom,misleci se u sebi:"Ma,nemate pojma,citate shit koje još pre 20 godina bilo bezveze,a kamo li sada...". E sada,ja sebe ne bih nazvao fanom tog istog junaka(citam i sakupljam,ali fan...?),ali mi svejedno smeta pomanjkanje respekta prema drugim ljudima,što u ovom slucaju ne govori o ukusu medju stripofilima,vec o pomanjkanju domaceg odgoja i kulture. Sada pljujte po meni koliko hocete,ali ja sam morao...
P.S. Za oni koji misle da se o tom junaku raspravlja i suviše na forumu:od 25 poslednjih tema su samo 2 o njemu. Ova tema nije o njemu,vec o respektu i medjuljudskim odnosima.
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Toninho
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:38:42
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u potpunosti se slažem sa tobom al u ljudskoj je prirodi da stremi tomen da bude elita ... odatle ti ta sprdacina sa tom vrstom stripova ... znaš ono svoje komplekse riješi nabijanjem drugimaa
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alen
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:39:12
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Ja sam dipl.ing.brodogradnje, pache vrlo nacitan covjek, suprug i otac, vlasnik cca 2000 stripova a Zagor mi je i dalje No.1 junak ikad.
Primjetio sam da na ovom forumu ima ekipe koja je netolerantna, pogotovo prema Zagoru, koji je kod nekih vrlo omrazen. Njihov problem i mogu me slobodno gledati s viskoka. Ja se barem ne preseravam sa kvazi-intelektualnim glupostima. Citam Zagora, volim ga citati i to me cini sretnim. Tocka. |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:46:52
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A jel o Zagoru rijec ovdje ili o velikom Bleku? Ti se buniš što ne poštuju i što ismijavaju Zagora, a što je s onima koji se podsmijavaju cijeloj Bonelli kuci pa trube o Amerima i europskoj produkciji izvan Italije?
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alen
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:54:48
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Ma da je rijec o Kapetanu Mikiju nije vazno. Bitno je da ne postoje super-rase citaca stripova koje su bolje od ostatka citaca stripova.
Ja recimo ne volim americke super-junake i tu je prica gotova. Osjecao bi se blesavo da nekom fanu tih stripova idem tupiti kako to ne valja. Tolerancije ljudi, budite tolerantni jedni prema drugima. |
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mcn
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mike
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 15:14:47
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Hahaha P.S. ocito leti na mene . Moj post u topicu NN na izdisaju? cista je mala provokacija.
No da vidimo sta sam napiso: "Nece Nathan propasti. Jeftini marketinski trik. Tek toliko da se malo skrene paznja sa naseg heroja sa sjekirom sa infantilnim dijalozima o kome govori svaki drugi topic ovde. Vidite kvaliteta topica vec se izboljsala! Opet se svadjamo "
Ovdje se moze uvrjediti samo onaj koji to hoce. Zagoru s godinama vuce na djecje sto i nije nista lose. I sam sam sto stariji to glupaviji. U daljnu raspravu ni slucajno se ne uplicem, jer nikad nisam sudio ili djelio ljude po onome sto citaju. Zapravo nisam sudio ili djelio ljude ni po cemu .
A da je skoro svaki drugi topic o Zagoru naravno malo je pretjerivanje ali i ne bas tako daleko od istine.
Inace sta ste neki toliko zapeti i tako brzo skacete uvis kad vam neko malo poremeti kult vaseg bozanstva   ?
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prozirna senka
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 15:49:07
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Demokratsko je pravo svakoga da vozdize u nebesa Zagora/Superheroje/Kogagod, u pitanju su ukusi koje postujem. Demokratsko je pravo takodje da ja izrazim svoje misljenje o gorpomenutoj bulumenti...
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 15:50:56
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Dok je Balkanaca bice i Zagora na Balkanu. 
Stara Vienna dobro ime ima, lijepo ime koje znaju svi, al' djevojke na ulicama nicemu ne vrijede, i kriplovi su cesta i svakodnevna stvar, rekoh spasi Bože Österreich |
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I like girlz
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 16:35:52
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slažem se sa autorom topica... u zadnje vrijeme je vec previše omaložavanja "tog" junaka od strane par, malo je reci netolerantnih, forumaša. svako ima svoj ukus, kao što kaže stara latinska "de gustibus non est discutabant", ali je vrlo nekorektno i nekulturno non stop izvrgavat ruglu doticni strip jer nekome eto nije po ukusu. ni ja ne citam mnoge stvari koje se ovdje afirmišu, pa mi nikad nije palo na pamet izvrgavat ruglu te stripove. okej, svi su rekli šta misle o svakom stripu i na tom treba da ostane, a ne non stop rugat se jednim te istim stripovima koji su 30 godina top 1 na ovim našim prostorima, a da ne govorim izvan njih. web masteri bi se malo trebali time pozabaviti. |
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marlowe
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 18:07:54
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zar ovo neko zeli da uvede verbalni delikt za zagora. pravo je svakoga, valjda, da navede svoje misljenje o bilo cemu. ako se ne oglusuje o pravila lepog ponasanja i nikog licno ne vredja, ne vidim nikakvo normalno objasnjenje da se bilo koji strip proizvod posebno zastiti i da se onemogucuje njegova kritika. bah!
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Toninho
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 18:16:25
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
zar ovo neko zeli da uvede verbalni delikt za zagora. pravo je svakoga, valjda, da navede svoje misljenje o bilo cemu. ako se ne oglusuje o pravila lepog ponasanja i nikog licno ne vredja, ne vidim nikakvo normalno objasnjenje da se bilo koji strip proizvod posebno zastiti i da se onemogucuje njegova kritika. bah!
___________ "In my Havana cabana I'll eat something sweet like banana..."
procitaj sve pa onda neceš izvrtat pricu  [^ ajmo rec da se svi oni koji mrze zagora u biti boje da ih ne saceka iza ugla pa toljagom .. je je onom toljagom   il upravo to žele i podsvjesno se tome nadaju .. hm .. |
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:11:58
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E ovako posto se ovo odnosi na mene da kazem par reci:
1. govorim o Zagoru sve najcrnje, sto je u potpunosti tacno i to je moje pravo, dok ne predjem granicu pristojnosti, a ja je definitivno ne prelazim
2. ti se osecas uvredjenim i smatras da te ja ne respektujem, zato sto citas Zagora. Pa ako ti tako zelis onda slobodno. Samo ja nikad nikom nisam rekao, da je nenoramlan, lub, budala ili sta vec zato sto cita Zagora. Opovrgni me ako mozes
3. uzdisem amere iznad Bonelija, zato sto se meni vise svidjaju ameri i imam pravo da to radim. Za razliku od ljudi kojim smeta sto uzdizem amere, meni ne smeta sto oni uzdizu Bonelijeve stripove. Dakle ja njih respektuje, a oni mene ne
4. ovo me je stvarno iznerviralo, jer je krenje ne fer i zato sto ja nikoga nisam ovako prozivao. Sta sad ja treba da kazem malo respekta za nas koji vise volimo amere, prestanite da pljujete po superherojima ili da tvrdite da je Boneli bolji??? Ne naravno da necu biti toliko arogantan i bezobrazan, jer svako ima pravo da iznese svoje misljenje i da ga ponavalja do beskonacnosti. I da naravno da cu da nastavim da govorim ono sto mislim.
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:13:23
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Ovo bi trebalo da bude forum u kome ljudi iznose svoja misljenja o stripovima, e pa eto moje je misljenje da je Zagor ocajan strip!!!!!!!!!
________________________________________________ "Najbolja majstorija koju je djavo ikada izveo je ta sto je ubedio ljude da ne postoji" - kralj lazi ________________________________________________
Svakoga dana, u svakom pogledu, sve vise napredujem!!! |
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makikatalinic
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:17:51
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ja isto, ali izgeda da ovde ima i onih koji to ne cene.
________________________________________________ "Najbolja majstorija koju je djavo ikada izveo je ta sto je ubedio ljude da ne postoji" - kralj lazi ________________________________________________
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zosko
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:24:38
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quote: Originally posted by Duh_koji_hoda
ja isto, ali izgeda da ovde ima i onih koji to ne cene.
________________________________________________ "Najbolja majstorija koju je djavo ikada izveo je ta sto je ubedio ljude da ne postoji" - kralj lazi ________________________________________________
Svakoga dana, u svakom pogledu, sve vise napredujem!!!
dobro, shvatili smo da uskoro izlaze novi americki stripovi u srbiji. svi smo to shvatili. znamo i da su to bobanova djeca. znamo. vidimo i da si odusevljen. sad odi pod hladan tus i izadji malo na zrak. covjece, pa kad god svratim tu si. spavas li ti uopste? |
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degman
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kiky
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:29:58
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Ako je uvreda reci da je Zagor obican šund stripic i da oni koji smatraju da je nešto više trebaju pod hitno posjetiti najbližeg psihijatra... pa, onda neka to bude uvreda.   
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:43:01
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quote: Originally posted by zosko
quote: Originally posted by Duh_koji_hoda
ja isto, ali izgeda da ovde ima i onih koji to ne cene.
________________________________________________ "Najbolja majstorija koju je djavo ikada izveo je ta sto je ubedio ljude da ne postoji" - kralj lazi ________________________________________________
Svakoga dana, u svakom pogledu, sve vise napredujem!!!
dobro, shvatili smo da uskoro izlaze novi americki stripovi u srbiji. svi smo to shvatili. znamo i da su to bobanova djeca. znamo. vidimo i da si odusevljen. sad odi pod hladan tus i izadji malo na zrak. covjece, pa kad god svratim tu si. spavas li ti uopste?
e ovako:
1. ovo nema nikakve veze sa vertigom u Srbiji 2. ovo za Bobanovu decu ne shvatam 3. jesam odusevljen, ali to nema nikakve veze sa topicom 4. moja stvar da li spava ili ne spavam i to te se ne tice. Inace ne ne spavam po mraku spremam ispite, pa se kacim na net u pauzama, a po dnu idem na predavanja ali kao sto rekoh moja stvar
________________________________________________ "Najbolja majstorija koju je djavo ikada izveo je ta sto je ubedio ljude da ne postoji" - kralj lazi ________________________________________________
Svakoga dana, u svakom pogledu, sve vise napredujem!!! |
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:45:10
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quote: Originally posted by kiky
Ako je uvreda reci da je Zagor obican šund stripic i da oni koji smatraju da je nešto više trebaju pod hitno posjetiti najbližeg psihijatra... pa, onda neka to bude uvreda.   
you candy perfume girl
slazem se! Nikad nisam vredjao nekog ko cita Zagora, a i ne nameravam, ali po zagoru sam pljuvao, a i nastavicu jer imam argumente
________________________________________________ "Najbolja majstorija koju je djavo ikada izveo je ta sto je ubedio ljude da ne postoji" - kralj lazi ________________________________________________
Svakoga dana, u svakom pogledu, sve vise napredujem!!! |
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:45:54
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Eh da jos nesto, ovo je za svastaru!!!!!!
________________________________________________ "Najbolja majstorija koju je djavo ikada izveo je ta sto je ubedio ljude da ne postoji" - kralj lazi ________________________________________________
Svakoga dana, u svakom pogledu, sve vise napredujem!!! |
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zosko
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:49:10
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"1. ovo nema nikakve veze sa vertigom u Srbiji"
 "2. ovo za Bobanovu decu ne shvatam" reci mi cija su to izdanja? (btw. ako se raspricamo o tome, izgubit ce par kupaca. no samo ti nastavi)  "3. jesam odusevljen, ali to nema nikakve veze sa topicom"
 "4. moja stvar da li spava ili ne spavam i to te se ne tice. Inace ne ne spavam po mraku spremam ispite, pa se kacim na net u pauzama, a po dnu idem na predavanja ali kao sto rekoh moja stvar" mora da si strasno efikasan |
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:52:38
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quote: Originally posted by zosko
"1. ovo nema nikakve veze sa vertigom u Srbiji"
 "2. ovo za Bobanovu decu ne shvatam" reci mi cija su to izdanja? (btw. ako se raspricamo o tome, izgubit ce par kupaca. no samo ti nastavi)  "3. jesam odusevljen, ali to nema nikakve veze sa topicom"
 "4. moja stvar da li spava ili ne spavam i to te se ne tice. Inace ne ne spavam po mraku spremam ispite, pa se kacim na net u pauzama, a po dnu idem na predavanja ali kao sto rekoh moja stvar" mora da si strasno efikasan
nisam nego treba da dam 8 ispita, a poceo sam da ucim pre 7 dan, a rok mi pocinje 20. maja, a sad me jos i ovaj topic iznervirao jer nema nikakvog smisla
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zosko
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