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Toninho
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Croatia
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Toninho
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Croatia
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
 Posted - 24/07/2006 : 22:08:48
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Originally posted by Toninho
u cemu su superman i batman bolji od zagora i supermajka
E, al jebo me pas, ja stvarno ne kužim zašto je taj lik toliko poseban, on meni izgleda ko nekakav anti-Zagor, al to nije ništa novo, vidio sam hrpu takvih likova i mnogi su bili puno bolje izvedeni od njega.
Meni on izgleda ko neki redikul, sa tim smiješnim kostimom i plavom kosom (scenaristi su se stvarno jako potrudili da pokažu kako je on sušta suprotnost Zagoru, nema šta  ).
Supermike je nešto slicno kao Bizarro, osim što Bizarro ima zanimljiviji background.
Ajde fanovi Zagora, da cujem zašto vam je taj lik toliko poseban?
Znam da se o ukusima ne raspravlja, ali ovo me pitanje muci vec par dana. Još i mogu shvatiti da se radi o parodiji, ali inace...
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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mladen13
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Croatia
1145 Posts
Member since 22/09/2005 |
Posted - 24/07/2006 : 22:41:49
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ja skupljam ( što bi ameri kazli) crossovere i pokoji TPB,
o super majku nemam neko posebno mišljene, samo kad vidim prugaste hlace, za krepat,
jel ona fora sa lupanjem otiska prstena uzeta od Fantoma
došlo vrijeme da je bolje imat' nego nemat' |
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mr murdoc
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Switzerland
14557 Posts
Member since 02/01/2006 |
Posted - 24/07/2006 : 22:43:53
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DH Conan - najbolji Conan u zadnjih 20 godina - xcelent!
ovo potpisujem 
i know assholes grow on trees but i"m here to trim the leaves! |
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byoman
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Croatia
6349 Posts
Member since 07/12/2002 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 05:43:04
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u kolovozu imam flat i evo sta namjeravam udomacit na svom disku:
http://free-st.t-com.hr/pbiocic/download.txt
naravno, ne ocekujem da cu sve uspit, ali bar jedan veliki dio
ove preporuke sam skupio sa nekog stranog foruma, bio thread sa 50 strana preporuka pa sam malo tog gledao i izabrao ono sta mi se cinilo ok. |
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jurica
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1799 Posts
Member since 19/02/2003 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 12:24:17
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Originally posted by Toninho
di nestane juricin topic
ma sam sam ga izbrisao. sjetio sam se da bi mogla poceti jos jedna neproduktivna i beskonacna rasprava na koju cu samo gubiti vrijeme...
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zasto je Majk tako vazan i poseban lik?
korijen toga treba traziti u samom karakteru Zagora. jer Zagor je (i zato mi je osobno puno zanimljiviji od Texa i vecine ostale Bonelli garde) castohlepan i cesto nepravedan. kad Ciko napravi neko sranje, najcesce se Zagor umijesa i prebije, npr. kuhara ili nekog kome je Ciko nesto ukrao (umjesto Cika samog, naravno).
Zagor nadalje vara indijance sitnim trikovima da bi ih uvjerio kako je neka vrsta boga.
i onda se pojavljuje Super Majk i zeli oduzeti Zagoru a) bozanski status pred indijancime, b) mogucnost da namece svoju "pravdu jacega" i ostane iskljucivi eticki imperativ Darkwooda i c) laskav status "zvijezde".
Zagora to duboko pogadja. u tim epizodama se najvise prikazuje njegova kompulzivna potreba da bude heroj, da svoje seksualne, drustvene i emocionalne probleme sublimira u lik usamljenog borca za pravdu.
Super Majk NIJE suprotnost Zagoru, Mr. Bushido (plava kosa je vjerojatno tu da bi se lakse razlikovali, a ne da se naglasi suprotnost). oni su vrlo slicni. slicne ih teznje motiviraju. vjerojatno se zato toliko tesko i podnose.
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 12:44:48
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Ako sam dobro shvatio, Supermike želi biti Zagor, zauzeti njegovo mjesto?
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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alen
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Croatia
4621 Posts
Member since 14/02/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 12:55:23
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Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Ako sam dobro shvatio, Supermike želi biti Zagor, zauzeti njegovo mjesto?
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play."
Ma Supermajk je metroseksualna pickica. 
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jurica
Senior Member
1799 Posts
Member since 19/02/2003 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:05:31
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Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Ako sam dobro shvatio, Supermike želi biti Zagor, zauzeti njegovo mjesto?
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pa naravno. zar to zbilja ne znas? to je osnova opce kulture. negdje uz "Kolumbo je otkrio Ameriku" ili "Isus je umro na krizu".
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:12:48
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Originally posted by jurica
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Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Ako sam dobro shvatio, Supermike želi biti Zagor, zauzeti njegovo mjesto?
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pa naravno. zar to zbilja ne znas? to je osnova opce kulture. negdje uz "Kolumbo je otkrio Ameriku" ili "Isus je umro na krizu".
Al ozbiljno, nisam nikad citao epizode u kojima se pojavljuje s obzirom da mi je Zagor Extra odavno dosadio. Na forumu ga dosta ljudi velica, pa sam htio cuti u cemu je fora. Iskreno, meni on izgleda ko parodija (i po meni bi bilo veca fora da i je).
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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jurica
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1799 Posts
Member since 19/02/2003 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:21:57
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ma tesko je parodirati Zagora. on je vec u startu napravljen toliko neozbiljno, opusteno i neinhibirano, da se zapravo nemas cemu rugati. kako je Roger Moore jednom rekao u intervjuu: "nema smisla parodirati Jamesa Bonda, tajni agent koji se redovito predstavlja punim imenom i prezimenom je parodija sam po sebi".
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alen
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Croatia
4621 Posts
Member since 14/02/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:27:11
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Originally posted by jurica
kako je Roger Moore jednom rekao u intervjuu: "nema smisla parodirati Jamesa Bonda, tajni agent koji se redovito predstavlja punim imenom i prezimenom je parodija sam po sebi".
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KAJGOD - strip zin i tjedni onlajn strip KUCA STRAHA na www.kajgod.co.nr
Uvijek sam se pitao zasto to radi.
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:30:05
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Originally posted by jurica
ma tesko je parodirati Zagora. on je vec u startu napravljen toliko neozbiljno, opusteno i neinhibirano, da se zapravo nemas cemu rugati. kako je Roger Moore jednom rekao u intervjuu: "nema smisla parodirati Jamesa Bonda, tajni agent koji se redovito predstavlja punim imenom i prezimenom je parodija sam po sebi".
Hahaha, živa istina.
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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Dreamlord
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Haiti
1833 Posts
Member since 18/08/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:35:20
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Ha, ha, ha.
Oteraste coveka i pretvoriste mu topic o pricu o Zagoru! Ccccc....
Citam stripovi, gledam pornici i živim za fajt! |
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:47:56
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Originally posted by Dreamlord
Ha, ha, ha.
Oteraste coveka i pretvoriste mu topic o pricu o Zagoru! Ccccc....
Imaš pravo.
Ispricavam se, JohnDrake. Ajd, da ispravim...
Evo, dodjeljene su neki dan Eisnerove nagrade i primjetih da je Solo pobijedio u svim kategorijama u kojima je bio nominiran. Žalosno je to što se taj serijal gasi iduci mjesec, po meni je to najbolji projekt koji je DC izdao u zadnjih nekoliko godina. Možda ove nagrade natjeraju DC-jeve glavonje da održe još strip na životu. Iako nisam baš veliki optimist.
Takoder, The Escapists, novi naslov Briana K. Vaughana puno obecava (to je zapravo nastavak antologije The Amazing Adventures of the Escapist, koja je pak nastavak knjige Pustolovine Kavaliera i Claya). Dobra prica, dobra ideja, crtež je odlican, jedino šteta što je mini serijal, al navodno je Dark Horse najavio da ce biti više ovakvih serijala.
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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Dreamlord
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Haiti
1833 Posts
Member since 18/08/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:52:40
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Eisneri ove godine:
Eisner Award Winners for 2006
Best Short Story
"Teenage Sidekick," by Paul Pope, in Solo #3 (DC)
Best Single Issue (or One-Shot)
Solo #5, by Darwyn Cooke (DC)
Best Serialized Story
Fables #36-38, 40-41: "Return to the Homelands," by Bill Willingham, Mark Buckingham, and Steve Leialoha (Vertigo/DC)
Best Continuing Series
Astonishing X-Men, by Joss Whedon and John Cassaday (Marvel)
Best Limited Series
Seven Soldiers, by Grant Morrison and various artists (DC)
Best New Series
All Star Superman, by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely (DC)
Best Publication for a Younger Audience
Owly: Flying Lessons, by Andy Runton (Top Shelf)
Best Anthology
Solo, edited by Mark Chiarello (DC)
Best Digital Comic
PVP, by Scott Kurtz, www.pvponline.com
Best Reality-Based Work
Nat Turner, by Kyle Baker (Kyle Baker Publishing)
Best Graphic Album-New
Top Ten: The Forty-Niners, by Alan Moore and Gene Ha (ABC)
Best Graphic Album-Reprint
Black Hole, by Charles Burns (Pantheon)
The 2006 Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards
Best Archival Collection/Project-Comic Strips
The Complete Calvin & Hobbes, by Bill Watterson (Andrews McMeel)
Best Archival Collection/Project-Comic Books
Absolute Watchmen, by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons (DC)
Best U.S. Edition of Foreign Material
The Rabbi's Cat, by Joann Sfar (Pantheon)
Best Writer
Alan Moore, Promethea, Top Ten: The Forty-Niners (ABC)
Best Writer/Artist
Geof Darrow, Shaolin Cowboy (Burlyman)
Best Writer/Artist-Humor
Kyle Baker, Plastic Man (DC); The Bakers (Kyle Baker Publishing)
Best Penciller/Inker
John Cassaday, Astonishing X-Men (Marvel); Planetary (WildStorm/DC)
Best Painter/Multimedia Artist (interior art)
Ladronn, Hip Flask: Mystery City (Active Images)
Best Cover Artist
James Jean, Fables (Vertigo/DC); Runaways (Marvel)
Best Coloring
Chris Ware, Acme Novelty Library #16 (ACME Novelty)
Best Lettering
Todd Klein, Wonder Woman, Justice, Seven Soldiers #0 (DC); Desolation Jones (WildStorm/DC); Promethea, Top Ten: The Forty-Niners, Tomorrow Stories Special (ABC); Fables (Vertigo); 1602: New World (Marvel)
Talent Deserving of Wider Recognition
Aaron Renier (Spiral-Bound)
Best Comics-Related Periodical
Comic Book Artist, edited by Jon B. Cooke (Top Shelf)
Best Comics-Related Book
Eisner/Miller, edited by Charles Brownstein and Diana Schutz (Dark Horse Books)
Best Publication Design (tie)
Acme Novelty Library Annual Report to Shareholders, designed by Chris Ware (Pantheon)
Little Nemo in Slumberland: So Many Splendid Sundays, designed by Philippe Ghielmetti (Sunday Press Books)
Hall of Fame
Judges' Choices: Floyd Gottfredson, William Moulton Marston
- Vaughn Bodé
- Ramona Fradon
- Russ Manning
- Jim Steranko
Nisu loshe prosli Eisneri. Meni licno smeta Eisner Moore-u ove godine za najboljeg pisca, totalno nezasluzeno po meni. Jeste Moore legenda ali sada bash i nije imao neki doprinos.
Citam stripovi, gledam pornici i živim za fajt! |
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Dreamlord
Senior Member
Haiti
1833 Posts
Member since 18/08/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:54:22
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Prosle godine je Eightball dobio Eisnera za Single Issue.
Eightball je zakon strip.
Takodje mislim da je steta za Solo-a...
Citam stripovi, gledam pornici i živim za fajt! |
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 13:57:13
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Ali je zato Geof Darrow sasvim zasluženo dobio Eisnera za Shaolin Cowboya. Covjece, taj strip rastura!
I jebote, koliko im je trebalo da smjeste Manninga i Steranka u Hall of Fame. 
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 14:09:16
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Hm, ne osporavam to da li je Morrisonov Seven Soldiers zaslužio nagradu, ali malo je nategnuto taj projekt nazvati "limited series". Konkretno, sam Seven Soldiers je imao dva broja, #0 i #1. S tim da su oba broja zaokruživala storyline koji se protezao u sedam mini serijala. Tehnicki gledano, to se može nazvati limited series, ali prakticki se radi o serijalu od 30 epizoda, što baš i nije mini serijal. Možda su trebali izmisliti novu kategoriju...
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
12970 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 17:00:38
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Hm, sad sam skužio da "limited series" i "mini serijal" ne moraju nužno biti istoznacnice. Mea culpa. 
"Oh, Alex. You made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play." |
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seinfeld
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Member since 04/11/2001 |
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zveles
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Croatia
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Member since 28/03/2003 |
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zveles
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Croatia
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Member since 28/03/2003 |
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seinfeld
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Member since 04/11/2001 |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 19:32:34
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I koliko sada imas Americkih stripova? Da li si presao na petocifrene brojeve :-))))))))))))))).
Free will. It's like butterfly wings: once touched, they never get off the ground. No, I only set the stage. You pull your own strings. |
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