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Duh_koji_hoda
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 07:44:40
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heh, trebalo bi svuda u stripu V prepravljati u O...
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CortoMaltese
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dule_car
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Slovenia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 08:25:24
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quote: Originally posted by CortoMaltese
Meni je debilno kako su kod nas preveli film " O kao osveta " , a junaka u filmu kao "V".
slovenski prevod je "V kot vroce mašcevanje"...vjerovatno nam ono "V" od junaka dode kao skraceno od "Vruci"
to e to
---there is no spoon--- (a viljuske?)
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prozirna senka
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USA
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 08:33:12
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V kot vroci kaj:-)
Cuvajte, cedo moje milo, jezik kao zemlju. Rec se može izgubiti kao grad, kao zemlja, kao duša. Ne uzimajte tudu rec u svoja usta. Uzmeš li tudu rec, znaj da je nisi osvojio, nego si sebe potudio. |
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jgoran5
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 10:13:22
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quote: Originally posted by Duh_koji_hoda
ne, bas naprotiv totalno je debilan prevod O kao Osveta, s obzirom da u srpskom jeziku, postoji rec vendeta, naravno kao rec stranog porekla, sto je sinonim za krvnu osvetu...
________________________ ''Zaboravio sam imena, brojeve telefona, mladeze na bezobraznim mestima, nicega se vise ne secam. Svi pravi mangupi boluju od amnezije...''
oprosti ali vendeta je opcepoznati naziv za krvnu osvetu,nema apsolutno veze sa srpskim jezikom..sa udomacivanjem i glupostima
opet spominjem nadzirace...zašto nece ostati watchman
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jgoran5
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 10:15:54
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quote: Originally posted by CortoMaltese
Meni je debilno kako su kod nas preveli film " O kao osveta " , a junaka u filmu kao "V".
o kao osveta je odlican prijevod jedino su krivi idioti u issa filmu koji nisu skontali da bi trebali i v u filmu prevesti kao o..
totalni kretenizam...
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Emir Pasanovic
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 10:24:12
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quote: Originally posted by jgoran5
quote: Originally posted by CortoMaltese
Meni je debilno kako su kod nas preveli film " O kao osveta " , a junaka u filmu kao "V".
o kao osveta je odlican prijevod jedino su krivi idioti u issa filmu koji nisu skontali da bi trebali i v u filmu prevesti kao o..
totalni kretenizam...
ma daj, pa onda cijeli film na ekranu ljudi jedno vichu, gledaju vatromete oblika "V" i istrazuju ubistva koja je oznachio sa velikim "V", a ispod svega toga gledaoc prati dozivljaje i iskustva nekakvog "O"-a. da je htio koristiti rijech "osveta" i Moore je komotno mogao uzeti "vengeance". Ali je on namjenski izabrao vendetta i svaki jezik koji smisleno moze to koristiti i treba (a to je vecina evropskih jezika). drugo je to shto u ovom trenutku nashi prevodioci filmova kurcu ne valjaju pa onda kasape naslove i tekstove na svaki moguci i nemoguci nachin. meni se svidja "V kao Vendeta" iz tog razloga.
A na ulici sa svake strane/filijale, uredi/iz njih plaze birokrate/jao ljudi, pa ja se bojim!\\\http://r2cu.co.nr/ |
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marlowe
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 10:26:19
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V kao Vendeta je jedini pravilan prevod naslova. Vendeta je sasvim noirmalna rec, rec u korpusu srpskog jezika. U pitanju je rec stranog porekla - nesto kao frizider. Ne vidim sta bi tu bilo nejasno.
O za osvetu je jedan od zescih bisera koji sam cuo u poslednjih par godina.
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SSM
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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priki
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Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 12:28:03
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quote: Originally posted by Duh_koji_hoda
ne, bas naprotiv totalno je debilan prevod O kao Osveta, s obzirom da u srpskom jeziku, postoji rec vendeta, naravno kao rec stranog porekla, sto je sinonim za krvnu osvetu...
________________________ ''Zaboravio sam imena, brojeve telefona, mladeze na bezobraznim mestima, nicega se vise ne secam. Svi pravi mangupi boluju od amnezije...''
Da slazem se... Bez obzira dal postoji ta rec ili ne, lepse je V kao Vendeta. Mislim I Betmen je Betmen, a ne covek slepi mis, jel tako?
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risbozg
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 12:33:00
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quote: Originally posted by SSM
O umjesto V je mogao staviti samo onaj ko nije ni pogledao film :)
No one gets out of childhood alive.
i ko nema veza sa mozgom
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Markos
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Witchblade
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 12:59:14
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quote: Originally posted by jgoran5
o kao osveta je odlican prijevod jedino su krivi idioti u issa filmu koji nisu skontali da bi trebali i v u filmu prevesti kao o..
 Dakle, kako je V. u izvorniku covjek iz sobe V (tj. sobe 5), sada bi bio covjek iz sobe O? Ili, ono sto je u stripu fifth (opet, rimsko V.) of november, sada bi bilo...? Ime glavnog zenskog lika, Evey (moze se pisati i E-V, isto se cita) Hammond?
Znak V integralan je dio price iz vise razloga, znak O nema nikakve veze s pricom.
Last night I dreamt that somebody loved me No hope, no harm, just another false alarm
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rocco21
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 13:13:58
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
"O kao osveta" je sramotan prijevod.
Tako je!
Da sam ja prevodio stavio bih "V kao osveta"
Za utjehu, nije ovo ni prvi ni zadnji put da je prijevod naslova filma totalni promašaj. |
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DeeCay
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 13:43:20
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Isto tako, V je broj celije gdje se nalazio glavni lik...
Nije prvi put da puste film sa promašenim naslovom. A isto tako mislim da nema stripomanijaka kod distributera.
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jgoran5
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 13:44:25
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
"O kao osveta" je sramotan prijevod.
Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
ne slažem se,meni je ful ok o kao osveta... druga stvar je što u stripu V u biti ima cisto drugo znacenje zbog broja sobe..ali opcenito gledajuci v for vendetta ili o kao osveta ili za osvetu je cisto ok..
stoji da je debilno staviti O kad sve na ekranu vidiš kao V ali su se bar mogli onda dosljedno držati kao u prijevodu naslova.
a sto se tice bijelog puta v kao vendeta je apsolutno debilno,zašto onda nije V kao osveta jer se u ostalim izdanjima drže prijevoda kao pijani plota (prvi trgni,zadnji placaj,nadziraci i ostale pizdarije) 
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veber
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 13:54:41
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ajte u svaštaru pa pišite o filmu i prijevodu
a odi onaj ko zna neka napiše koliko košta strip pa onda onaj ko ce dolazit iz bg u makarsku neka mi ga lijepo donese a ja cu mu se lijepo zahvalit i platit :) |
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marlowe
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 13:56:48
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quote: ne slažem se,meni je ful ok o kao osveta... druga stvar je što u stripu V u biti ima cisto drugo znacenje zbog broja sobe..ali opcenito gledajuci v for vendetta ili o kao osveta ili za osvetu je cisto ok.. a sto se tice bijelog puta v kao vendeta je apsolutno debilno,..
jgorane, ako je tebi O za osvetu "ful" i "cisto OK", a V kao vendeta "apsolutno debilno", ja zaista sta covek dalje moze da prica sa tobom. samo mi javi ako ti budes slucajno nekad nesto prevodio. ta bi mi informacija bila bitna.
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DeeCay
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 14:31:09
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quote: Originally posted by jgoran5
quote: Originally posted by CortoMaltese
Meni je debilno kako su kod nas preveli film " O kao osveta " , a junaka u filmu kao "V".
o kao osveta je odlican prijevod jedino su krivi idioti u issa filmu koji nisu skontali da bi trebali i v u filmu prevesti kao o..
totalni kretenizam...
Jgoran, ti znaci uopce nisi gledao film? Nemožeš ti V kao rimski 5 ili kao ime lika Vey (V) ili V prevesti sa O. Baca originalne anotacije (a i u filmu) u vodu. Pravilno bi bilo i V u naslovu i V unutar.
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jgoran5
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 14:41:59
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by jgoran5
quote: Originally posted by CortoMaltese
Meni je debilno kako su kod nas preveli film " O kao osveta " , a junaka u filmu kao "V".
o kao osveta je odlican prijevod jedino su krivi idioti u issa filmu koji nisu skontali da bi trebali i v u filmu prevesti kao o..
totalni kretenizam...
Jgoran, ti znaci uopce nisi gledao film? Nemožeš ti V kao rimski 5 ili kao ime lika Vey (V) ili V prevesti sa O. Baca originalne anotacije (a i u filmu) u vodu. Pravilno bi bilo i V u naslovu i V unutar.
Wealth beyond measure, outlander...
ma to sve stoji...ali ako prevedeš "kako bi trebalo" (po logici onog ko je prevodio v= vendetta , o=osveta.. znam da to v uopce nema neke veze s vendettom ili sa osvetom nego to oznacuje broj celije.. ito kao što i taj koji je prevodio nikada nije citao strip... ja samo kažem da je meni preijevod ful ok mada bi bio sretnije da je v kao osveta a ne o kao osveta..
u biti se ovdje uopce ne radi o filmu nego o debilnom bjeloputskom prevodenju naslova....kažem debilnom jer prevode watchmane kao nadzirace v kao vendeta uopce ne prevedu.. ovo uopce nama veze sa izjavama tipa "vendeta je uobicajena rijec u srpskom jeziku" jer su to gluposti.to je samo opravdavanje debilnog prijevoda jer su skužili da je glup
dobar mi je o kao osveta zbog logike tipa koji je prevodio ali sam definitivno za v kao osveta a ne kao vendeta
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ken2
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 14:44:02
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vec sam se pitao što je s njima, dugo nije bilo nicega, nadam se da ce biti dostupno u makarskoj inace, to meni nekako sporo izlazi, koliko je prošlo od prvog constantina, sigurno dosta preko godine dana, a to je vec prevelik razmak, nadam se da skoro idu drugi dijelovi i njega i propovednika i 100 metaka i sandmana |
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jgoran5
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 14:45:10
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
quote: ne slažem se,meni je ful ok o kao osveta... druga stvar je što u stripu V u biti ima cisto drugo znacenje zbog broja sobe..ali opcenito gledajuci v for vendetta ili o kao osveta ili za osvetu je cisto ok.. a sto se tice bijelog puta v kao vendeta je apsolutno debilno,..
jgorane, ako je tebi O za osvetu "ful" i "cisto OK", a V kao vendeta "apsolutno debilno", ja zaista sta covek dalje moze da prica sa tobom. samo mi javi ako ti budes slucajno nekad nesto prevodio. ta bi mi informacija bila bitna.
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pa normalno da je ok jer vendeta nije pravilan prijevod.i nemožeš mi kemijati sa izjavama tipa "nalazi se u korpusu srpskog jezika"..ma daj,to su lupetanja.. vjerojatno je onaj pametnjakovic boban opet kemijao neke svoje gluposti...
ako ja budem išta prevodio svakako ceš znati za to a i definitivno nece biti preijevod tipa v kao vendeta ili prvi trgni,poslednji placaj..
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veber
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 14:46:04
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ajme dosadni se s tim prijevodom sve vrsni lingvisti i translejteri :) možda bi vas unprofor zaposlijo
odite ca u svaštaru i konacno nek neko kaže koliko ce taj strip koštati
a i ovo je glupo vec malo ,i pravljenje budala od nas što kupujemo stripove,sve se samo nešto najavljuje a niko da kaže koliko šta košta pa da se onda ta mušterija ili kolekcionar il estet il samo obican ljubitelj devete umjetnosti bar pokuša pripremiti na financijske troškove koji ce uslijediti a koji više nisu tako mali.
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marlowe
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 14:52:49
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[quoteovo uopce nama veze sa izjavama tipa "vendeta je uobicajena rijec u srpskom jeziku" jer su to gluposti.to je samo opravdavanje debilnog prijevoda jer su skužili da je glup [/quote]
zaista je tesko shvatiti "sta su gluposti, ko je glup i sta je debilno" i kakva opravdanja. vendetta je engleska rec. vendeta je srpska rec (stranog porekla, kao i autobus, voajer, fudbaler i hiljade drugih). Naslov V for Vendetta jedino je pravilno prevesti sa V kao Vendeta. O za osvetu je kandidat za najveci prevodilacki biser poslednje decenije.
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HarryBlock
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Posted - 16/05/2006 : 14:58:12
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Hebem ti sunce, ja sam mislio da je "O za Osvjetu" zajebancija! Stvarno su tako preveli! I jos ima likova koji brane takav debilizam. |
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