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CAGLIOSTRO13
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risbozg
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Posted - 22/10/2006 : 18:51:22
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izvrsna trilogija a osim toga drago mi je da su u trecem dijelu ukinuli onaj pisani font (OPISE RAZMIŠLJANJA) stavili novi sa boldom
- --ak ti je slaba pamet moraš imat jaka leda --   
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hello
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/10/2006 : 18:58:33
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quote: Originally posted by risbozg
izvrsna trilogija a osim toga drago mi je da su u trecem dijelu ukinuli onaj pisani font (OPISE RAZMIŠLJANJA) stavili novi sa boldom
- --ak ti je slaba pamet moraš imat jaka leda --   
He, he, to je samo u ovom broju da bi se "opis razmišljanja" Julije i Myrne razlikovao  |
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/10/2006 : 19:33:40
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nazalost, prebanalno kopiranje jaganjaca u zavrsnom dijelu...ali sve u svemu, odlicna julijica...
Nice view from Orthanc inspite of these psychotic trees. |
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Toninho
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Croatia
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/10/2006 : 21:40:25
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trenutacno u lijepoj pokradenoj nasoj su obje varijante dopustene, ali ovo hitci ja ne priznajem:))
Nice view from Orthanc inspite of these psychotic trees. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/10/2006 : 21:41:35
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inace rodijak nijesu ti to metci:)) vec zvuk koji isti produkuju kroz uzduh:)))
Nice view from Orthanc inspite of these psychotic trees. |
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Toninho
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/10/2006 : 21:48:53
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dode prika danas kod mene ja mu pokažem špagetije i on odma nade te HITCE pa p... m. ova manija prevodenja i bolesnih ispravaka je prešla sve granice lako mu ih ne posudim za kaznu |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Curunir
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Posted - 22/10/2006 : 22:06:24
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quote: Originally posted by Toninho
dode prika danas kod mene ja mu pokažem špagetije i on odma nade te HITCE pa p... m. ova manija prevodenja i bolesnih ispravaka je prešla sve granice lako mu ih ne posudim za kaznu
e to ti je mcn. legenda u svemu osim u nedosljednosti jezika...on bi hitci, ali i ponovo, dozvoliti...e ne moze to, braco:)) zauzmi stranu...BFM, Anic-Silic, ili zdrav razum, koji kaze hici, ponovno, dopustiti... no kazem ti, formalno je u redu, samo mi smeta nedosljednost, tako je i u KP...
Nice view from Orthanc inspite of these psychotic trees. |
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risbozg
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Posted - 23/10/2006 : 00:14:42
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quote: Originally posted by hello
quote: Originally posted by risbozg
izvrsna trilogija a osim toga drago mi je da su u trecem dijelu ukinuli onaj pisani font (OPISE RAZMIŠLJANJA) stavili novi sa boldom
- --ak ti je slaba pamet moraš imat jaka leda --   
He, he, to je samo u ovom broju da bi se "opis razmišljanja" Julije i Myrne razlikovao 
ne samo to ne onaj pisani font mi je smrt za citanje  
- --ak ti je slaba pamet moraš imat jaka leda --   
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Constantine33
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Posted - 23/10/2006 : 00:27:01
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eto, procitah i trecu juliu i mogu reci da mi je ova zasad najbolja.... iako mi je crtež bio bolji u prva dva, roi je stvarao atmosferu zlokobnosti koja trigu ne polazi za rukom
____________________________ Skip the dramatic pauses. I can only give a shit for very short intervals. |
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chemako
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Croatia
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Prodigy
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Croatia
1801 Posts
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Posted - 23/10/2006 : 12:28:19
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Odusevljen sam Juliom! Kad bi si svi oko scenarija dali truda ko Berardi,to bi bio preporod.Ma s ovakvom pricom i najgori crtez ima prolaz. Jedva cekam novu pricu da vidim moze li se zadrzati kvalitet ili ce se stvari razvodniti. Ako nekom vjerujem onda je to Berardi!
I'm not O.K.,you're not O.K. and that is O.K.!!! |
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ken2
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Posted - 24/10/2006 : 08:09:05
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odlicna prica, kao i prve dvije imam samo jednu primjedbu na scenarij, kako to da onaj mladi policajac, koji se zagledao u myrnu, i sve saznao o njoj, nije otkrio i da su dokumenti lažni ali, dobro |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 24/10/2006 : 10:15:38
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quote: Originally posted by ken2
odlicna prica, kao i prve dvije imam samo jednu primjedbu na scenarij, kako to da onaj mladi policajac, koji se zagledao u myrnu, i sve saznao o njoj, nije otkrio i da su dokumenti lažni ali, dobro
Pa samo ju je pogladao, ona nije bila fokus istrage... Mada, kod ispitivanja svjedoka valjda se provjevi i identitet osobe. A s druge strane, ovi rutinski razgovori sigurno se ne odvijaju uz prisutnost policijske baze podatakai sve što ostane od svjedoka je zakopani izvještaj na hrpi...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? |
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ken2
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Posted - 24/10/2006 : 10:18:17
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to što kažešje sve u redu, medutim, on je dalje istraživao o njoj, pratio ju, saznao gdje stanuje i sl., vjerojatno bi i zavirio u kompjuter |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 24/10/2006 : 10:42:18
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quote: Originally posted by ken2
to što kažešje sve u redu, medutim, on je dalje istraživao o njoj, pratio ju, saznao gdje stanuje i sl., vjerojatno bi i zavirio u kompjuter
Uhmmm... Procitao sam prvih 30 stranica I sve što sam dotad zapazio je da se momak osmjehnuo Myrni, ostalo ne znam što se dalje dogadalo.
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? |
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alen
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/10/2006 : 11:43:44
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quote: Originally posted by chemako
Strip koji se cita u dahu.Ne znam samo zašto je treca stranica prazna.Da li je tako i u originalu?
Nije, u originalu je posta fanova s unutarnje strane korica i na strani 4 (kod nase Julije je ta prazna).
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DeeCay
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alen
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Posted - 24/10/2006 : 12:30:03
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
Kod nas nema fanova,ssmrc!
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne?
Tako ti je to kad je predlozak za Juliu mala Audrey a ne velika Pamela.
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kico
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Croatia
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chemako
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Posted - 24/10/2006 : 14:12:58
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quote: Originally posted by alen
quote: Originally posted by chemako
Strip koji se cita u dahu.Ne znam samo zašto je treca stranica prazna.Da li je tako i u originalu?
Nije, u originalu je posta fanova s unutarnje strane korica i na strani 4 (kod nase Julije je ta prazna).

Ja sam mislio da obraduju kakve zanimljive kriminalisticke slucajeve. |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 26/10/2006 : 11:22:50
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quote: Originally posted by ken2
to što kažešje sve u redu, medutim, on je dalje istraživao o njoj, pratio ju, saznao gdje stanuje i sl., vjerojatno bi i zavirio u kompjuter
Procitao sam strip i obratio pažnju na taj detalj... Dakle, cajo se vjerojatno samo zapalio za nju, znaci poslovica ljubav je slijepa, procitao izvještaj s podacima koje je ona dala i to je to. Mislim da je baš detektiv Webb rekao tocno ono što sam ja rekao u replayu prije, da se svi policajci ne konzultiraju medusobno i da ne koriste zajednicku bazu iz racunala. Da glupost bude veca, cajo je dijelio povjerljive inofmacije krivoj osobi, svašta...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? |
Edited by - DeeCay on 26/10/2006 11:24:07 |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 26/10/2006 : 12:19:38
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Nešto mi je slabiji finale, onako gledano u cjelini... Strašno me nervira ta Julijina ravnodušnost prema svemu i svakome i beskrajna hrabrost odnosno neopreznost. Posebno u ovom broju. Nit je ne zabrinjava što joj je sis junkie, nit što je manijalni seksualni ubojica prati u stopu, ona se ponaša ko da je svaki drugi dan. Apsolutna flegma od covjeka.
Obrazac za Myrnu je svakako klasicni nerazrješeni Freudov Edipov kompleks, ili recimo, Elektrin kompleks. Ono, oko 5 godine života osoba nije razrješila prirodno urodeni kompleks (što tocno prica Myrna o svojim opsesijama iz djetinjstva), odnosu prema njezinom ocu koji je opsjednut religijom.
Prema Freudu, odsustvo ili slabost bilo kojeg od roditelja, posebice roditelja istog spola, može voditi prema homoseksualnošcu u kasnijim dobima zbog nemogucnosti razrješenja Edipovog kompleksa. Nadalje, ako postoji izoblicenje u razvoju ženske ili ako je njihova agresija potisnuta, ljutnja ce zauzvrat biti okrenuta prema dominantnom muškom, (otac), ili patrijarhalnim kulturama opcenito. Neki tvrde da ovo objašnjava lezbijstvo i feminizam. Što nije univerzalno prihvaceno, i može nepotvrdeno pretpostavljati da ljubav žena prema ili podržavanje jednakosti prema ostalim ženama zahtijeva animozitet prema muškarcima.
Osim toga Myrna je razvila i opsesivno-kompulzivni osjecaj (kojeg se ne sjecam da je psihopatsko potkovani Berardi ugradio u scenarij). Opsesija je fiksirana na osjecaj mržnje prema ocu (i majci?), dok je kompulzivna radnja zadovoljavanje/rješavanje te opsesije naravno nasiljem prema ljudima slicnim ocu i majci odnosno ženama i muškarcima. Isto tako poremeceni od OCD-a bivaju muceni od konstatnih i ponavljajucih misli, vizija, impulsa i slika koje u tim trenucima uzrokuju stresno stanje i tijekom istih, koji su napadni i neumjesni, izazivaju tjeskobu i rastresenost. U stripu se lijepo vide Myrnini mentalni flashevi.
Dakako, otpocetka je Julia krenula od pretpostavke da je pocinitelj muško, kao što su to bili najpoznatiji, što fiktivni što stvarni, Ed Gein, Norman Bates, Buffalo Bill iz Jaganjaca (mada su potonja dva izvedena iz Geina).
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