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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:44:21
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
ja nisan nikad bija.nekoliko puta bija brat,kaže da su u Libelusu puno ljubazniji nego u MC 
inner fear your worst enemy ostali smo svi na tripu,staro,mlado život cili ,ostali smo svi na tripu pivajuci NAPRID BILI!! zapali coviku vatru i ugrija si ga za jedan dan,zapali covika i ugrija si ga za cili život!
Istna, a šta mi je još i važnije, cini mi se da o samome stripu znaju puno više nego ekipa u MC-u. |
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:54:53
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Fore s karticama nauci pre par mjeseci... Prvo ide keš. Kad ga usfali, idu kartice
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? |
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VJ
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:56:09
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI Ako se i zezaš, meni je to ponekad dosta bitno. Markos oce bit šta od kartica?
S uvodjenjem kartica doslo bi i do promjene cijena tako da se nigdje ne zurim(o).
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Guffy
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:58:09
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
U MC možeš karticom... U Libellusu ne moreš...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne?
inace rijetko kupujem u striparnicama tj skoro nikad ali mislim da nije neki problem da Libellus uvede kartice ??? ako im je do kupaca ici ce im na ruku ... i onda ce mc izgubiti puno puno više .....
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:05:24
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quote: Originally posted by VJ
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI Ako se i zezaš, meni je to ponekad dosta bitno. Markos oce bit šta od kartica?
S uvodjenjem kartica doslo bi i do promjene cijena tako da se nigdje ne zurim(o).

Zašto? Mislin, jasno mi je da svi karticari uzimaju 5-6%, ali nije to baš tako strašno, a bilo bi lipo imat opciju za potrošit koju kunu više. |
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darkwoodaxe
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:09:27
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
ja nisan nikad bija.nekoliko puta bija brat,kaže da su u Libelusu puno ljubazniji nego u MC 
[quote]Originally posted by lwood
ja nisan nikad bija.nekoliko puta bija brat,kaže da su u Libelusu puno ljubazniji nego u MC 
U libelusu sam bio samo jednom, tretirali su me ko psa,cinicno i bezobrazno, na kraju su mi obicnog zagora prodali po cijeni extra (racun 06-mp2586 od 1.12. 06. na kojem je ukucan krivi strip). Edvin je cesto mlohavo nezainteresiran, no ovo je bilo nedoživljeno, kad dodeš ostavit svoj novac i tretiraju te kao propalicu pa te (makar i simbolicno) još prevare za pare ne osjecaš se dobro. Nadam se da su tih pet kuna dali siromahu kako sam im po povratku rekao kada je prodavac odjednom postao ljigavo skrušen. Jedna mušterija manje, no jebeš mušteriju, tu su drugi, a dok je druga tite i našeg generacijski uvjetovanog mentaliteta bit ce i dalje zanimljivih oblika ponašanja. Zato pozdravljam sve s aukcija koji se ponašaju ljudski i korektno prema mojim iskustvima: hrvoje 23,spock,shunje,dmar,columbo,obiwan,jole... |
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zloskot
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Peyo
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:25:08
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Htio bih povodom ovoga nešto iskomentirati, a i inace sam htio pokrenuti topic u kojem sam htio apelirati da se o stripu i novim izdanjima ne govori sa toliko negativnog naboja.
Nakon više godina na tržištu je veliki broj novih (i vrlo kvalitetnih) izdanja, izvrsno otisnutih i uglavnom s vrlo kvalitetnim prijevodima, koja zaslužuju da se o njima piše i govori afirmativno.
S druge strane taj broj novih izdanja kao i njihova cijena, stvorio je nervozu kako izmedu konkurencije zbog prodaje, tako i kod kupaca zbog troškova nabavke.
To je rezultiralo razlicitim nekorektnostima, namjernim ili nenamjernim od izdavaca ili njihovih promotora, pa i samim citatelja.
Komentari koji se odnose na format izdanja, prijevod, kvalitetu tiska, kao i izbor serijala ukoliko dolaze od samih izdavaca ili njihovih promotora (cak iako su nepristrani) nisu korektni.
Izdavac i njihovi promotri bi se trebali zadržati na reklamiranju vlastitih izdanja suzdržavajuci se od komentara tudih izdanja. Kvalitetan primjer promocije su npr. Promocija Fibre preko previewa, Bokglobe-ovih Sto mu gromova, web-stranice Belog puta i sl.
Kao posljedica nepotrebnih prepucavanja izmedu izdavaca je svrstavanje citalacke publike na jednu ili drugu stranu. Osim što je to djetinjasto to je i nepotrebno.
Citatelji (forumaši) ponekad skriveni iza svog nickname-a nekorektno vrijedaju pojedine izdavace, prodavace-ducane ili druge forumaše koji citaju stripove koji se njima ne svidaju.
Podsjetio bih da su neka izdanja bila popljuvana prije nego su se i pojavila u prodaji (Satanik, Kriminal i dr.). Korektno bi bilo makar pricekati objavljivanje stripa pa dati mišljenje o objavljenom i procitanom izdanju.
S druge strane citatelji (forumaši) napuhavaju izdanja od njima dragih izdavaca, jer su to simpaticni ljudi, koji ne psuju (kao npr. Bandic), koji nisu neljubazni i koji ponekad snize cijenu.
Cak i Markosovo objavljivanje prepirke izmedu njega i Radica nije korektno jer bi se moglo shvatiti kao pljuvanje po konkurenciji radi vlastite promocije. Ne tvrdim da je Markos ovo napisao u toj namjeri, ali netko to može i tako shvatiti.
Ovakve svade nisu dobre za strip. Ni za izdavace ni za kupce (citatelje, forumaše).
Nadam se da cete ovaj spor izgladiti cim prije.
Za dobro stripa i onih koji ih s užitkom citaju, bez obzira tko je njihov izdavac.
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zloskot
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:29:08
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usput, kad smo vec kod more comicsa. od njih ne narucujem vez duze vrijeme. prvih par narudzbi nisam nikad provjeravao, jer nisam vodio evidenciju sta od koga treba stici, tako da je njihov paket bio jedan od desetak kad sam pokupio doma. od kad sam poceo popisivai sta od koga treba stici (t.j. biti u paketu) ustanovio sam da su me svaki put zajebali. uvijek je zaracunato vise (ne, nema veze sa pouzecem ili lezarinom, blabla), jednom su bili neki zagori extra umjesto regularnih, a nakon telefonata i skretanja paznje na nepravilnosti su mi naracunali obicnog texa giganta kao onog u boji (kako drugacije objasniti 60 kuna vise). slucajno naravno. racun nisam nikad vidio. lopovi. |
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prozirna senka
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:30:30
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>Podsjetio bih da su neka izdanja bila popljuvana prije nego su se i pojavila u prodaji (Satanik, Kriminal i dr.). Korektno bi bilo makar pricekati objavljivanje stripa pa dati mišljenje o objavljenom i procitanom izdanju.
Pljuc! Jel' korektno?
Cuvajte, cedo moje milo, jezik kao zemlju. Rec se može izgubiti kao grad, kao zemlja, kao duša. Ne uzimajte tudu rec u svoja usta. Uzmeš li tudu rec, znaj da je nisi osvojio, nego si sebe potudio. |
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Peyo
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zloskot
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SejoSexon
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Austria
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:38:22
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quote: Originally posted by zloskot
usput, kad smo vec kod more comicsa. od njih ne narucujem vez duze vrijeme. prvih par narudzbi nisam nikad provjeravao, jer nisam vodio evidenciju sta od koga treba stici, tako da je njihov paket bio jedan od desetak kad sam pokupio doma. od kad sam poceo popisivai sta od koga treba stici (t.j. biti u paketu) ustanovio sam da su me svaki put zajebali. uvijek je zaracunato vise (ne, nema veze sa pouzecem ili lezarinom, blabla), jednom su bili neki zagori extra umjesto regularnih, a nakon telefonata i skretanja paznje na nepravilnosti su mi naracunali obicnog texa giganta kao onog u boji (kako drugacije objasniti 60 kuna vise). slucajno naravno. racun nisam nikad vidio. lopovi.
Ja u MC-u kupujem stripove vec 10 godina i samo sam jednom prije 5 godina imao jednu neugodnu diskusiju sa Raulom. Inace su uvijek bili korektni.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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zloskot
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:40:22
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@ sejo: primjetio sam po tvojim postovima da narucujes od njih i znao se zapitati jel ti to njima presutis ili tebe ne zajebu. ocito djelujem kao kreten. edit: mislim debil, naravno. |
Edited by - zloskot on 08/02/2007 15:00:13 |
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darth-vader
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:51:00
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mislim da Markos nebi trebao komentirati nicija izdanja jedno je kada se ovdje svadam s Dadom o nogometu, a drugo je da sam negdje trener i da se onda svadamo o nogometu, tj. hocu reci kako bi to zvucalo da ovdje dode Bilic i s nama pljuje po nekim igracima :)
Bilo kakva kritika može se shvatiti kao namjerno vrijedanje, a to si NIKADA ne smiješ dopustiti. Ne smiješ si dopustiti da ti itko prišije neke takve insinuacije. Boli te briga. Svoje mišljenje zadržiš za sebe, o konkurenciji ni rijeci, zajedno samo pijete kavicu, svi su na bok bok i gotovo. Kakvo komentiranje konkurentskih izdanja ??????
dok si samo vodio site to si si mogao dopustiti, ali sada ne. Jednostavno da se ne dovodiš u situaciju u kojoj si sada. Bernija npr. boli kurac. On se ne želi niti javiti i to je najbolje. Zasigurno ima reci koju recenicu o nekom tudem izdanju, ali on ce ju reci u cetiri oka nekome, ili niti tada. To je naprosto normalan nacin razmišljanja. Dobro ti je Mcn govorio, a nisi ga htio slušati ( ono o nekomentiranju )
Vidim da to sve ide u picku materinu. Pitanje je da li vi imate kapaciteta da prodajete gotovo cijelu svoju nakladu samo kod sebe. S MC-om ste imali još jednog jakog distributera. Imam neki osjecaj da ce to sve puknuti kao mjehurici od sapunice.
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DeeCay
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 14:59:04
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Sad da se Markos odrekne svog hobija citanja i kritike stripova radi nepisanog zakona izdavaštava, odnosno, samo reklamiraj ne kritiziraj. Ja ne bih.
Što se tice MC-a, uvijek su bili korektni kad sam kupovao kod njih. Osim apatije pojedinih stanara MC-a, nema nikakvih drugih nedostataka. MC kao striparnica (i sve ostale striparnice) je prava oaza stripa, tu bih provodio dane i dane, a vrijedanje istog je svetogrde! Opet
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? |
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:00:06
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quote: Originally posted by zloskot
@ sejo: primjetio sam po tvojim postovima da narucujes od njih i znao se zapitati jel ti to njima presutis ili tebe ne zajebu. ocito djelujem kao kreten.
Da su me zajebali, to bih ovdje sigurno napisao. Ja stvarno nikada nisam imao problema sa MC-om. No meni nikada nisu slali robu u Austriju, kolegica iz ZG mi je skoro uvijek uzimala stripove a i ja sam dva puta mjesecno u ZG tako da sam cesto sam išao po stripove.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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zloskot
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:03:38
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quote: Originally posted by zloskot
hehe, sejo, sad kuzim :) ja sam narucivao na svoju domacu adresu. pa naruci paket i bus videl. :))
Nema potrebe kada sam poslovno cesto u Zagrebu. 
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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zloskot
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:06:59
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quote: Originally posted by SejoSexon
Nema potrebe kada sam poslovno cesto u Zagrebu. 
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
na tome ti zavidim. i ja sam dok mi se dalo ganjao hr poslovno, ali uvijek zavrsio negdje drugdje.  |
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:08:02
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Tebi je Zagreb daleko. Ja sam za 3,5 h u Zagrebu.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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dcopic
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:11:07
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Ja u More Comicsu kupujem od 1995 i ne pamtim niti jedno loše iskustvo vrijedno spomena. Isto je i sa Libellusom.
'Moj je dojam, za koji doista nemam egzaktnih argumenata, da nigdje nema toliko banalnosti i trivijalnsti kao u tekstovima na ekranima'
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DannyTrejo
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:21:19
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Meni su obje striparnice super.
U More Comics je najbolji onaj kit kratko ošišani s bradicom. Ovi drugi su flegma, ali nikakva loša iskustva. U Libellusu su dobri svi.
Poštenim putem ici bit' ce teško znaj Al' samo ceš tako stici gdje je vjecni sjaj |
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nenno
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:24:20
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u More comicsu kupujem još dok su bili na staroj adresi tako kod Kvatrica.....da su baš nešto pretjerano ljubazni sa kupcima - i nisu (cast Raulu). da nekad zajebu s racunanjem cijena - zajebu, a fakturu nisam nikad do sada dobio....kod Libellusa je skroz druga stvar. jedan dan sam Kowalskome ostavio ceh od 1400 kuna, al smo nakon toga još nekih sat vremena razgovarali ostarim stripovima, pokazivao mi je figurice, originalne table....vidi se da tamo rade decki koji obožavaju stripove i rade to vecim dijelom iz ljubavi.....
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risbozg
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:27:16
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TAKOÐER nisam imao problema ni neugodnosti niti u jednom od dva navedena
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